Filipino musings

jay helfert

Shoot Pool, not people
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The girls are painfully shy.......until you get to know them! :D
Contrary to what you may have heard, compared to a major city in the USA, Manila and the Philippines in general is a very safe place. Even at night! Rarely is ANYONE attacked or robbed. It does happen, but usually to someone who is drunk and being loud or obnoxious.

I have played pool now in dozens of little neighborhood poolrooms (they are virtually on every block) and have never had a problem. Granted I have played for relatively small stakes (anywhere from 50p to 1,000p a game), but have always had fun and made friends everywhere I went. In Pasay, they call me the "billiard guy", because I have been seen so frequently in the many poolrooms that dot that area. By the way, you can get action in nearly any pool hall. Usually with the best local players. So much like the USA of the 60's and 70's.

Most of the time I play Rotation, the native game here. What a great game it is too, so much creativity and shot making (bank shots!) required to play well. I have a game tonight for 500p a game. They will be betting 1000's on the side, with some of the locals betting on me. Last time with this guy I broke even. He's almost my age, another senior citizen. :wink:

It's true there is poverty all around you here, with people sleeping outdoors everywhere you look. I suspect there are at least 500,000 homeless in Manila with another million near homeless. Some of their "homes" are no more then cardboard boxes joined together. I see kids playing unsupervised every day, on sidewalks and in small parks. And I mean young kids, like 2, 3, 4 and 5 years old. Where are the parents I ask? The mother is gone all day I'm told and the father has disappeared. The kids play among themselves all day and beg for money. And NO ONE bothers them. Believe it or not they are totally safe. I found this hard to believe at first but it's true. Any adults that are in the area keep an eye on the kids if any of them get hurt. They pretty much leave them alone unless they are needed.

We all know that in the USA, no child is left unsupervised, particularly in a public area. That's because we have so many more perverts and people that would take advantage of such a situation. When I inquired about such people here, no one really understands. People like that just don't seem to exist here. That kind of thing is not a problem they are familiar with - child molesting and such.

What you must look out for is the taxi drivers without metered cabs, trike drivers who won't quote you a price. They prey on foreigners, who are unfamiliar with the territory. I rode in a trike a short ride the other day, normally a 30-40p fare. I made the mistake of not asking beforehand and the young kid asked me for 150p. I told him the fare was worth no more than 40p and that was all I would give him. He took a belligerent stance and demanded 150p again. I asked him if he thought it was okay to rob all foreigners. I told to please call the police ('pulis' here). He looked at me funny and then he apologized, saying 40p was now okay. He didn't want any trouble because he could lose his license.

On every corner you will be accosted by street peddlers selling everything from Viagra, to fake Rolexes to counterfeit sliver dollars. I just wave them off and keep walking. They may follow you for a bit, but then they will drop off your tail. Goes with the territory, no big deal. More later, gotta go see my little Jalo now.
 
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Cool post Jay, kinda gives those of us stuck in America and who have never been there a glimpse of the place. Definately a place I would like to visit and spend a considerable amount of time in.
 
There have been times I have wanted to move there. Spend a couple of years and really learn the art of the kick/bank... I wonder if I could live comfortably for 25k a year.
 
There have been times I have wanted to move there. Spend a couple of years and really learn the art of the kick/bank... I wonder if I could live comfortably for 25k a year.

You can but not too comfortably. Many expats in low cost countries get drunk on the idea that things are cheap and they end up spending far more than they should. You will have people preying on you and overcharging, you will have girls looking at you like a sugar daddy.

So best to do your homework. Talk to people like Jay who has been around the block in Manilla. Really get into expat forums and get to the truth before jumping in. This is one time where listening to the experience of others will save you money, headaches and heartaches.

With a budget and some sense you can live a great life in the Philippines, Thailand, China and Korea.
 
I was wondering that too. I remember traveling through europe years ago and got off the train in Belgium. I gave the lady at the currency exchange office a hundred american dollars and she started peeling off hundreds and hundreds of belgium somethings and when I had that wad in my hand I figured I just may have to stick around Belgium for a few days. Then I went to eat lunch and it was like 3 or 4 hundred of these belgium dollars, hahaha. I ended up going through that wad by nightfall and jumped on the next train to Paris.

I never found a pool room in brussels but I found some really great gun stores, now I know what us Texans are talking about when they say a Belgium grade shotgun. And a fantastick car museum. Lots of Ferraris, old american cars, a GT40, etc.
 
Jay, tell us, what if the price of a girl for the night? How may P, so we can figure out what you get for your money compared to american hookers.
 
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Jay, tell us, what if the price of a girl for the night? How may P, so we can figure out what you get for your money compared to american hookers.

Oh, great! :angry:

Let's just get a rate sheet and share it with the entire forum. :banghead:

Some folks have no respect for women, and as a female member of this forum, I find this topic disgusting and vulgar.
 
Ah yes, folks from all walks of life read these forums

Oh, great! :angry:

Let's just get a rate sheet and share it with the entire forum. :banghead:

Some folks have no respect for women, and as a female member of this forum, I find this topic disgusting and vulgar.

I'd rep you, Jen, but I must spread it around first.

Good grief. That post said a lot about the poster in two sentences -- not only for his respect (lack of) for women, but for his scruples (lack of) as well. Two sentences, yet it spoke volumes.

But then again, this *is* a forum read by folks from all walks of life, so I try to keep that in mind when I open a thread and stub my toe on occasional posts like these.

Would love to visit PI though -- and saturate myself in the pool scene, as well as the sights and sounds and food. I was a NATO (Atlantic side) sailor in the Navy, so I never got the opportunity to visit PI like the "Pacific siders" did.

-Sean
 
Jay, tell us, what if the price of a girl for the night? How may P, so we can figure out what you get for your money compared to american hookers.

I think if you multiply the nightly rate your mama charges by 43.25. You will have the approximate number of pesos.
 
I was wondering that too. I remember traveling through europe years ago and got off the train in Belgium. I gave the lady at the currency exchange office a hundred american dollars and she started peeling off hundreds and hundreds of belgium somethings and when I had that wad in my hand I figured I just may have to stick around Belgium for a few days. Then I went to eat lunch and it was like 3 or 4 hundred of these belgium dollars, hahaha. I ended up going through that wad by nightfall and jumped on the next train to Paris.

I never found a pool room in brussels but I found some really great gun stores, now I know what us Texans are talking about when they say a Belgium grade shotgun. And a fantastick car museum. Lots of Ferraris, old american cars, a GT40, etc.

before the euro was introduced belgium had "francs belges". 400 FB were more or less equal to 10 dollars :)
but its true you dont find so many good poolhalls in belgium, i foun 1!!! in liege and half of the tables were.... hmmmm..... CRAP!
 
Jay I love to hear your accounts of life in PI. I will be making a trip there sometime. Maybe if I pay your way you can show me the ropes. I would love to go down there for a month or two and just play pool all day. I would definitely jump up a few speeds.

How is your daughter doing?
 
Jay, tell us, what if the price of a girl for the night? How may P, so we can figure out what you get for your money compared to american hookers.

I am going out on a limb to say this was a failed attempt at humor.

Now before you accost him too badly, let's see what he has to say.

Ben

PS, Jay, great stuff.
 
Great post Jay and I wish you great times with your little one!

I swear, everytime you post stuff like this, I wish you can host Anthony Bourdain's or Andrew's show! Your reviews are so factual and a true experience. Being Filipino myself, I do not remember, at least back when I was still there, hearing anything about child molestation or like the perverts that we have here. Now, we've had our share of stupid S$%* too like somebody getting stabbed because he stole somebody's slippers or some thing like that.

And I can personally vouch for Jay when it comes to those taxi cabs and such, they can be pretty mischevious.

I am glad you're having a wonderful time there in PI Jay and goodluck with your action!
 
Jay, great post. Thanks for sharing what most of us will never have a chance to experience.
 
That was a real treat "Dad!" Thanks for sharing that. I have really missed this place.
 
Thanks for the post, great to hear how it's done in other places, especially as I have yet to leave the continent. One of these days...

A buddy here at work got sick of things last year and retired at 40. He moved to the Philippines because he had visited and had some friends there. Loves it and living like a king on 1/4 or even less of his annual salary here. Sounds like my kind of place, plus the pool action has to be incredible.
Scott
 
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