Finally Made It To Evansville

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DrCue'sProtege

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As some will recall in a previous thread I was going to drive down to Evansville to the Washington Square Mall and play on their Diamond tables. I wanted to see how they compared to my Gold Crown IV.

Well, I finally made it to Evansville today. And what a waste of time. I couldn't have been more disappointed. The tables were in awful condition. The cloth was horrible. It was dirty, spotty, slow, etc, etc. And the lone 9-footer wouldn't even work. I had a guy helping me and he said the coin mechanism must be broke.

So I guess I am back to square one. Maybe I should just go and buy that Diamond Professional and get it over with. Either way, I would think a big city like Evansville would have had better tables to play on. That was simply pathetic.

r/DCP
 
FYI here,
I did notice that the shelf depth on their 9-foot Diamond ProAm did indeed seem to be deeper than the depth on my Gold Crown IV.

I think that has been mentioned before on here, that Diamond tables have a slightly deeper shelf depth.

r/DCP
 
I was recently in Portland Maine and played at Forest City Billiards. I was told all the GC3s were 4 1/2 and the three Gabriel's were 4 1/4". Someone screwed up the GC3 because one corner looked tighter than 4 1/4 and the other corner was over 4 1/2. Over to the Gabriel table I went. Table played nicely but had very little shelf, about the same as GC tables with rail extensions. I was surprised to see the Gabriel's were all aluminum with no center beam to shim a slate if it sagged later in life. Nice room

If you're buying new, I'd go with Diamond Professional.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
As some will recall in a previous thread I was going to drive down to Evansville to the Washington Square Mall and play on their Diamond tables. I wanted to see how they compared to my Gold Crown IV.

Well, I finally made it to Evansville today. And what a waste of time. I couldn't have been more disappointed. The tables were in awful condition. The cloth was horrible. It was dirty, spotty, slow, etc, etc. And the lone 9-footer wouldn't even work. I had a guy helping me and he said the coin mechanism must be broke.

So I guess I am back to square one. Maybe I should just go and buy that Diamond Professional and get it over with. Either way, I would think a big city like Evansville would have had better tables to play on. That was simply pathetic.

r/DCP
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The diamond is a fine table, no doubt.

I don't understand the end goal though.

The experience of playing at home will be the same, after that initial change and you're going to be out of pocket a few $k.

Juice not worth the squeeze, imo.

And I hear you about the disappointment of playing out'n'about. Hard to want to do when you have better everything at home.
 
If buying a new Diamond, I'd recommend the barbox. The shelves are not as deep as their 9' tables (the slate is cut differently, even with the 4.5" pro-cut pockets ordered on both). If your goal is to pretend you're a good player, the barbox will help immensely. Shorter shots make everything easier. I'm actually thinking of getting a barbox next. I'd rather have fun at the table than get frustrated. YMMV.
 
iusedtoberich said:
"If your goal is to pretend you're a good player, the barbox will help immensely."
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No, my goal is not to pretend to be a good player. My goal is to be one. And with a new Diamond table that hopefully breaks better and plays better than my bad breaking and bad playing Gold Crown IV I might be able to determine if I am actually halfway decent or simply not worth a sh~t. I suspect it might be the latter.

And FYI,
tonight I broke about 50 times. I had about nine (9) chances to run out. I got out four (4) times and hosed up five (5) of them.

r/DCP
 
The 9 ball power break though, most of the action happens before any rails are hit. The wing balls or the head ball go straight in. The CB pops and draws back a foot to center table and stops. The table being a GC or a Diamond will have zero to do with any of that. All that matters is the balls, the rack, and the spot.

The soft breaks are the same. Almost all the action happens before any rails are hit.

Position on the 1 if it doesn't go in the side is where the rail comes into play. It might go further cross corner and land closer to the corner pocket for a good starting shot on a Diamond, because the rails are bouncier.

If you're about to spend 12k for a new Diamond, why not spend $200 for a set of Dyanspheres, or $400 for a set of Aramith Duramith Tournaments, and $15 for a Magic Rack first? You'll need them anyway if you get a new table, so might as well get them now and see if they change things.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
iusedtoberich said:
"If your goal is to pretend you're a good player, the barbox will help immensely."
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No, my goal is not to pretend to be a good player. My goal is to be one. And with a new Diamond table that hopefully breaks better and plays better than my bad breaking and bad playing Gold Crown IV I might be able to determine if I am actually halfway decent or simply not worth a sh~t. I suspect it might be the latter.

And FYI,
tonight I broke about 50 times. I had about nine (9) chances to run out. I got out four (4) times and hosed up five (5) of them.

r/DCP
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You never answered the question someone asked recently. What is your percentage running 5 with ball in hand? Instead of breaking 50 times, why don’t you
Throw the 5-9 out randomly 50 times, take ball in hand, and see what your runout percentage is. How many times do you do it getting good on every ball. Check out the Breiseth videos on YouTube. I think in the third one he suggested something along these lines. But also suggested it takes a better player than you think to be 80% for a given number of balls. Doing something like this will tell you where you are more accurately and stand a better chance to help you get better. Have you done this?
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
I don't really see it that way. Mostly because I hosed up five others.

The table did finally yield some chances tonight. Usually I have about 3-4 chances out of 50 breaks.
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I don't like your math.

Your single "chance" is made up of 9 challenges.

9 chances to run out is 81 chances to stumble.

You stumbled 5x.

94% of your chances were not stumbles.

Carry on happily and enjoy the activity and moreso, that it isn't your job!
 
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