Fitness And Pool

That Bobby Yamasaki is RIPPED for a 55 year old. There are alot of 20 year olds that he gives the last four to in abs.
 
uwate said:
That Bobby Yamasaki is RIPPED for a 55 year old. There are alot of 20 year olds that he gives the last four to in abs.

Yup, he's huge and cut. On top of the he plays great, solid pool and is a very nice guy also. Growing up there were a lot of things I idolized him for, he has an amazing amount of discipline and talent.
 
as someone who is always off-and-on with physical fitness, I can say that exercising most definitely helps my pool game. It helps my concentration, focus, and stamina. Result: I'm much more consistent and I can play better for longer.

One definitely doesn't have to be gung-ho about it and look like some of the guys posted in this thread. But anyone who gets little to no exercise I bet will improve if they just did the standard 30 mins of moderate exercise 3-4x/week.
 
caesar said:
and my break is about 6mph faster, compared to six years ago when I was 30 lbs lighter and never lifted weights. I don't think fitness is a huge issue because I have seen some guys, that were morbidly obese and still could run racks all night long. I think age has a lot worse effect on one's pool game then being out of shape. I haven't figured out a way to beat father time.

I think you're right that fitness level probably doesn't have a huge impact on pool playing other than endurance. But, endurance can be pretty important, perhaps mostly in the back muscles.

I would venture that your faster break is mostly due to improved technique rather than additional strength.

You can't beat father time, but if you are an amateur body-builder, and you DON'T use the juice, and you incorporate stretching and cardio into your REGULAR training cycle, you're doing all the right things to stay ahead of him as long as possible.

Tom
 
cuechick said:
I know personally that when I work out regularly, I sleep better and think more clearly, both I think help me to play better...

That's an excellent point that I didn't think about my other post. In generally, exercise makes you sleep better, which will have a major impact on coordination and concentration.

Tom
 
Black-Balled said:
And playing pool for 6yrs was not the primary reason for you improvement in pool?!:confused:
I had a six year break in my pool playing. sorry, I should have mentioned that.
 
Tom M said:
I would venture that your faster break is mostly due to improved technique rather than additional strength.

On page 198 Chapter 13 Jack H. Koehler wrote in his book "The Science of Pocket Billiards" The following Excerpt:

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Tom M. I see Koehler agree with you on the Flexing and Stretching routine /exercise.
 
billiardshot said:
Tom M said:
I would venture that your faster break is mostly due to improved technique rather than additional strength.

On page 198 Chapter 13 Jack H. Koehler wrote in his book "The Science of Pocket Billiards" The following Excerpt:

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Tom M. I see Koehler agree with you on the Flexing and Stretching routine /exercise.

That's a really interesting idea with the weight and the cue.
I'm going to have to try that. Thanks for posting it.
 
BigGun72 said:
Play Long Finish Strong with fitness pro Edward Cabrera available through www.bebobpublishing.com----has lots of good exercises specific to muscles and muscle groups used to play pool.

But, stronger muscles aren't what make you a better pool player. Better coordination makes you better at pool. Hell, even strength isn't as much about muscles as many people think. Take a look at pocket hercules at something like 140 pounds putting up 3-400 pounds over his head.

Get healthier shoulders, back and legs and your pool playing may increase slightly. Increase your power and your break will improve slightly.

When it comes down to it. Get in shape for your health and practice your pool to get better at your pool.
 
billiardshot said:
Tom M said:
I would venture that your faster break is mostly due to improved technique rather than additional strength.

On page 198 Chapter 13 Jack H. Koehler wrote in his book "The Science of Pocket Billiards" The following Excerpt:

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Tom M. I see Koehler agree with you on the Flexing and Stretching routine /exercise.


Whole heartedly disagree. There have been many studies which showed that things like this get in the way of mechanics. Law of specificity. If you want to get good at something your training must be as specific as possible. If you increase the weight of the cue it changes the mechanics of the break. Getting better at breaking with a heavy cue will get you better at breaking with a heavy cue. MAYBE it will help your break. But, simply practicing your breaking and improving your strength/power(especially power) in the gym is more beneficial in my opinion.
 
Fart sniffer said:
Nick Varner had his personal trainer watch him break for a bit to find out what exercises would be best to improve Nick's break. This was when the IPT first came out and Nick's 8-ball break wasn't where he thought it should be, it's the only time I have ever heard of anyone focusing on certain muscle groups for anything related to pool.

He even had the trainer give him exercises that he could do in a hotel room so that he could work out while traveling anywhere, pretty good thinking there.
I've never heard of that either, but it sounds like a good idea.

James
 
Because where they spend 6-8 hours in a gym, a player is spending the same time in a pool room.

Weight training in moderation and cardio had me playing some of my best pool ever.

uwate said:
Either one of those muscle guys can get played in any of the rooms where there are players. I have yet to see someone that dedicated to lifting weights that can run out. I know others have said they have seen good playing body builders but I havent. Personally, whenever I lift weights I must play about a ball or two worse, easy.
 
I'm not into bodybuilding but I do work out 6 days a week to stay in shape. The muscles are a by product of doing it. My goal is not to be a huge hulking bodybuilder though. Only supplements I take are protein drinks after a workout. And before anyone jumps in and says working out 6 days a week is too much I should clear it up by saying that I do 2 upper body workouts (Monday and Friday) one lower body workout (Wednesday) and 3 cardio workouts (Tue. Thur. Sat.). I reverse the upper body and lower body workouts each week. I have to say that it has actually helped my game. I have way more endurance than I used to and I gotta tell ya, when you're in a tournament that starts at 10 in the morning it's nice to still feel peppy at 7 in the evening when the finals roll around and everyone is burnt out. I also feel that my break has improved with it. Not the power of it as much as the muscle control to keep the cue on line when breaking. So yeah, I would say that an exercise regimen is good for your game.
MULLY
it won't teach you how to draw a ball though
 
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Fart sniffer said:
Nick Varner had his personal trainer watch him break for a bit to find out what exercises would be best to improve Nick's break. This was when the IPT first came out and Nick's 8-ball break wasn't where he thought it should be, it's the only time I have ever heard of anyone focusing on certain muscle groups for anything related to pool.

He even had the trainer give him exercises that he could do in a hotel room so that he could work out while traveling anywhere, pretty good thinking there.
What were the trainer's recommendations? The real question would be organizing one's workouts so that they do not interfere with pool. For example, how much recovery time is necessary between lifting & pool? Are there exercises which do not interfere? Are high reps better than high intensity?

I find pool & lifting to be like 2 vivacious mistresses competing for my time.
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I have to say......

I started working out about 4 years ago while actually playing a lot of pool at the time. At first, I thought it was going to ruin my stroke, make me too bulky and loose flexibility. I consulted a lot of my friends that were in the Exercise Science program at a local university. They seemed to think that there would be no problem as long as you stuck to a couple of guidelines. First, you want to use light weight and sets of 12 to 15 reps. Second, try not to actually lift more than 4 days a week. Lastly, always stretch before and after you are done with whatever muscle group you are using. I stuck to those guidelines and threw in cardio about 3 times a week and have nothing to say but I've received amazing results. Concentration is the main thing along with endurance. Another aspect that some may not realize, is when we are playing pool we are using a lot of smaller muscle groups (triceps, forearms, biceps, and shoulders) which are easier to break down. The more we build the muscle groups we are using while playing, the less chance of them failing or falling out on us, easier said, the stronger the muscle the less chance of "choking" or dogging the shot due to MUSCLE FATIGUE. There is of course the mental aspect, which is a whole other discussion. Overall, I have found that working out is a huge advantage when playing pool. If two guys play each other and are dead even, I?m betting on the guy in shape!!!:D
 
So the ultimate question is if gambling will get you in better shape than not gambling? :D
MULLY
 
berlowmj said:
What were the trainer's recommendations? The real question would be organizing one's workouts so that they do not interfere with pool. For example, how much recovery time is necessary between lifting & pool? Are there exercises which do not interfere? Are high reps better than high intensity?

I find pool & lifting to be like 2 vivacious mistresses competing for my time.
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I can only speak from personal experience, but I've found that if I try to play pool say an hour or two after a workout (either cardio or weight-lifting) then I'm a little worse off. I still feel somewhat worn out and rubbery.

If I play, say, that same day 4+ hours after working out then I play my best. I'm the most focused and energetic.

On days I don't exercise I'm between the two, although as long as I'm in a phase where I'm exercising regularly I'm always better than those times that I don't exercise regularly and I'm just a slug dragging myself to the pool hall every day.
 
I row six times per week (on an indoor rower) and lift four or five days per week at the gym- I don't think it's helped my game any, but being fit certainly hasn't hurt my game either.:cool:
 
Exercising isn't going to turn a C player into an A player, but it may make him a C+ player, or at least a better player in the C range. And that has nothing to do with bigger biceps somehow helping someone shoot better, and has everything to do with the fact that regular exercise helps people focus and concentrate more, and have more stamina. So regular exercise helps people in all areas of their lives, whether it's schoolwork or work in a cubicle job, or if it's professional sports.
 
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