Fixing Pool should be relatively easy!

[WinniePooh]

Another possible solution is to contact Fleet Labs and have them manufacture a fire hose type of douche that is able to clean out each and every one of the pool halls and bars across America. 10000 gallons per shot outta do it. :thumbup:

Too many douche bags, assholes, thieves, and otherwise unpleasant people are, and have always been, entrenched in this game. The problem with lack of money, sponsorship's etc etc etc is the people, its never been the game.

You forgot thugs, motherF, hustlers, drug addicts, drug dealers, low lifes, to name a few.

 

[maldito]

A lot has been said about the people that you find in pool that gives it a bad name etc. but you find these types in all sports here is a link for professional sportspeople convicted of crimes; yet no one says anything bad about these sports

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sportspeople_convicted_of_crimes#Baseball


http://www.cnbc.com/id/100942614


These individuals were financially much better off than pro Pool/Billiard people yet here they are.

 

[336Robin]

The Perception and Actions

A lot has been said about the people that you find in pool that gives it a bad name etc. but you find these types in all sports here is a link for professional sportspeople convicted of crimes; yet no one says anything bad about these sports

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sportspeople_convicted_of_crimes#Baseball


http://www.cnbc.com/id/100942614


These individuals were financially much better off than pro Pool/Billiard people yet here they are.

True but largely the perception and actions of a good many of the players doesnt exactly make people want to go out and save Pro Pool. If they had the answer and it took some work, they wouldn't do it. How much money can I make? What can I get away with?

 

[alstl]

Fixing Pool is relatively easy.

First you take a large gob of Money

That part about the large gob of money might a sticking point. I'll do my part and look around for a large gob but I can't promise anything. If I do find a large gob I'll bump this thread with the news.

 

[336Robin]

Is saving pool popular enough?

That part about the large gob of money might a sticking point. I'll do my part and look around for a large gob but I can't promise anything. If I do find a large gob I'll bump this thread with the news.

If Pool were popular enough that it would save, then maybe people give money to a tax deductible association to do it, that had and advertised the actual plan.

Maybe if Pros endorsed it and manufacturers got behind it maybe the Pool People would chip in. That is the half million dollar question, it would take a least a half a million in an interest bearing account before you had the first tournament from it and even then you would shooting for a lot more growth. In a decade maybe you would have sizeable enough amount to do some real good.

If people expect now, right now then it won't work. Question is: Do they care? I doubt many care as long as they have a place to play.

 

[MitchAlsup]

Fixing Pool is relatively easy.

First you take a large gob of Money.....

And therein lies the problem.

Nobody in pool has enough cash to get the wagon rolling.
But everyone in pool thinks they should get the lion's share of it.

Its all take and no give.

 

[336Robin]

Once Rolling

And therein lies the problem.

Nobody in pool has enough cash to get the wagon rolling.
But everyone in pool thinks they should get the lion's share of it.

Its all take and no give.

This is largely true. The way you would get the large sum is a membership organization designed for the purpose. All of the actions of the 501 would be advertised this way people would know exactly what their money is going for and that the money given contributes to the base strength of the the organization never going away. Only interest or certain incomes that are earnings are spent. If no money is made then there might have to be rules as to keep spending from eroding the base.

In other words Pool People and Pool Organizations would be responsible for raising the state of Pool. If no interest we continue with dead and dying Pool.

There was a guy once that told Jerry Forsyth that he was interested in infusing half a million I believe that wanted to help Pool and there was a thread I think he was following but as far as I know no one every came up with in idea that would work and no one ever found out who this person was.

I think this is as good an idea as I've seen so far because it generates money, gets the people and companies who are passionate about it involved, lets them know that the money can't be mishandled and puts the people of pool in the drivers seat on fixing pool.

Considering the size of the membership of Pool here in the US a rightly motivated group of people determined that Pool would be great again could hold a membership drive that would render a lot of people and a Pro Tour could emerge that was sustainable in a few years.

Since a 501 can be set up for educational purposes then that sort of covers the whole of pool. So lets fast forward a decade and let's just say the membership, corporate and room owner donations were to swell the base fund up to say 10 million. The interest off of 10 million at 10 percent is a million dollars. Now we wouldnt let the existing pros play for the entire million but some of that money would probably be spent in the expenses for getting pool in front of the people then adding monies to the pot at venues that were available.

There is just a lot of good that could come out of something like this and the promoters job would be to submit a plan for an event in order to get some of the expenses covered including the added monies and promoters might be able to get paid enough to go to the trouble of constructing events within the rules set forth.

To get the large Gob of Money, you put forth a real plan, then you start asking for it. If people and corporations want Pool saved they will give it.

 

[336Robin]

I think Pool is worth saving

I think Pool is worth saving. I think that someone somewhere will think so, if Pool is a part of their business model.

So what do you think?

 

[mchnhed]

Too many douche bags, assholes, thieves, and otherwise unpleasant people are, and have always been, entrenched in this game. The problem with lack of money, sponsorship's etc etc etc is the people, its never been the game.

Billiards and bowling used to be a gentleman's pastime.

Is this true only in the US?

Does Snooker or English Black Ball have these problem people?

Could be a reflection of American Society at large.

Thug Life is admired.
Gangsters are looked up to.
The Mob was loved by the average Joe.
Long history of loving the Anti-Hero.

 

[KissedOut]

I think Pool is worth saving. I think that someone somewhere will think so, if Pool is a part of their business model.

So what do you think?

I think that it is easy to come up with solutions based on other people doing what I want them to do (in the face of overwhelming evidence that they have no interest) even though I myself don't have any of the time, money, or ability to do anything useful except post pie in the sky plans for those other folks to implement.

Is it saving pool or is it mental masterb . . . well, you know.

 

[mchnhed]

I think that it is easy to come up with solutions based on other people doing what I want them to do (in the face of overwhelming evidence that they have no interest) even though I myself don't have any of the time, money, or ability to do anything useful except post pie in the sky plans for those other folks to implement.

Is it saving pool or is it mental masterb . . . well, you know.

Ideas are what accomplishments are made of.

From my book:
"Ideas are a dime a dozen"

Please buy a copy when I finish it.

I can write about ideas, but I can't get any of them done.

 

[336Robin]

How about....

I think that it is easy to come up with solutions based on other people doing what I want them to do (in the face of overwhelming evidence that they have no interest) even though I myself don't have any of the time, money, or ability to do anything useful except post pie in the sky plans for those other folks to implement.

Is it saving pool or is it mental masterb . . . well, you know.

Thats pretty observant of you and directed sort of personal at me. So if you dont know Ive already done a deal with pool or two on the local level and one I got involved in didnt work and wasnt going to but it was an adventure of mine. I know the pool thing pretty well from the field end of it and lots of things are against pool. The biggest is money and the next is a purpose that would actually reap rewards for it. Im not sure helping pro pool is it either. Pool has multidimensional problems and needs a makeover.

As far as if I do it I'll be consenting to come out of retirement.

Im retired and Im not really the guy that needs to do this but just so you know when people send me a request to meet over this, I go. I lay out my plan. Has someone asked, yes. Am I going to go? Yes. Will I tell you who it is. No. If I can manage to get someone or a bunch of some ones excited about it and I see it can work will I get involved? Yes because I'd like to see the original intentions kept.

I wouldn't dream of doing something like this alone nor could I, because I am not the guy to be the face man for something like this. If Johnny Archer decided to do something like this a whole lot more people would get on board but he probably has things to do as well. Something like this is going to take a lot of interested people with something to gain.

 

[Poolplaya9]

I also worked for a fortune 500 company and I would rather be around pool players any day. My question is if you have such disdain for the people that play pool why do you even play?

If you have such disdain for working people why do you have a job?

 

[row21097]

I guess that Acquiring Excellence in Pool should also be relatively easy. I'd like to see you shorten that book to only one page! :smile:

It's getting that original gob of money that can be tricky. The investing part can have it's drawbacks as well. If it was easy as you make it sound everyone would be doing it.

By the way, how's your portfolio looking these days?

Jay,
It is simple! Mask, gun, bank..

Bert