Fixing the game of 9 ball.

But isn't that exactly what Matchroom have done for the past few years.
As for Matchroom, I really don't see change, experimentation, or innovation where the rules are concerned. I am saying that that kind of work is probably best done at a local or regional level.
 
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As for Matchroom, I really don't see change, experimentation, or innovation where the rules are concerned. I am saying that that kind of work is probably best done at a local or regional level.

Yeah I'm inclined to agree, that probably does make sense, try things out at regional level and if its popular enough, give it a go on the big stage!
 
The only problem with 9 ball is it is too simple. I enjoy 8 ball and one pocket because they require more thought. In 9 ball you get a lucky break and layout or you don't. The only thought provoking strategy is safety play, and that mainly occurs after that initial unlucky break, or if you make a shot but fail to get shape. Offence/defense are too lopsided.
 
As for Matchroom, I really don't see change, experimentation, or innovation where the rules are concerned. I am saying that that kind of work is probably best done at a local or regional level.

Matchroom needs to redevelop their 9 ball production ENTIRELY.

If you compare their final 16 programming shoot at Mandalay, to lets say, the last two rounds of the Masters at Augusta, I'd rather watch golf.

Be very interesting Sky Sports PRODUCTION.... if the announcers also, during the shot had after access to separate video of the players hands, feet/stance, swing rhythm during the shot, especially if they missed or dogged the shot.
 
The only problem with 9 ball is it is too simple. I enjoy 8 ball and one pocket because they require more thought. In 9 ball you get a lucky break and layout or you don't. The only thought provoking strategy is safety play, and that mainly occurs after that initial unlucky break, or if you make a shot but fail to get shape. Offence/defense are too lopsided.
9-Ball is very simple and yet you watch matches like the MC, and all kinds of things happen even in these short races. The shorter the race and the more important each game is only increases the level of pressure the players feel when at the table. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
 
9-Ball is very simple and yet you watch matches like the MC, and all kinds of things happen even in these short races. The shorter the race and the more important each game is only increases the level of pressure the players feel when at the table. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
IMO if they'd put 9b on the spot and break from the box it would be better. It probably is still the best game for t.v. because it is simple, fast and easy for non-pool fans to follow. 8b isn't bad either because everybody has played that at one time or another. 1p and 14.1 would bore average sports fans to death.
 
9-Ball is very simple and yet you watch matches like the MC, and all kinds of things happen even in these short races. The shorter the race and the more important each game is only increases the level of pressure the players feel when at the table.
Exactly. I will also add that the most exciting and interesting matches in pool history were Nine-Ball.
 
IMO if they'd put 9b on the spot and break from the box it would be better. It probably is still the best game for t.v. because it is simple, fast and easy for non-pool fans to follow. 8b isn't bad either because everybody has played that at one time or another. 1p and 14.1 would bore average sports fans to death.
I think in the MC they do place the 9 ball on the spot, but I don't think there is break box rule
 
No, it has been 1-ball on the spot the last 4 years. It was 9-ball on the spot for a number of years before that.
Thanks for clarifying.

I hope the go back to placing it on the spot.

I know you have the best data of anybody that follows pool.

Is there a distinct statistical difference in terms of pocketing balls and running out at the MC with the 9 ball on the spot vs 1 ball?
 
Thanks for clarifying.

I hope the go back to placing it on the spot.

I know you have the best data of anybody that follows pool.

Is there a distinct statistical difference in terms of pocketing balls and running out at the MC with the 9 ball on the spot vs 1 ball?
No, we haven't really seen much of a difference at the Mosconi Cup in recent years between racking the 1-ball on the spot and racking the 9-ball on the spot.

For the 4 years 2017 through 2020 combined, with the 1-ball on the spot and breaking from anywhere behind the line, successful breaks were 79% and B&R games were 29%. The table in 2018 was a bit easier than in the other 3 years because of larger pockets (4 1/2" vs. 4 1/4" corners). Without 2018, the total for the other 3 years was 77% successful breaks and 25% B&R games.

For the 3 years 2014 through 2016 combined, with the 9-ball on the spot and breaking from anywhere behind the line, successful breaks were 74% and B&R games were 28%.

The really different year was 2013, with the 9-ball on the spot and a break box about 12" wide (6" each side of center). Successful breaks were 33% and B&R games were 10%.
 
The jumpers are for the audience, the spectators and the non players.

It adds excitement to the production.

I totally agree with you, but the 9 BALL business model probably doesn't.

Productions have to cater too the audience to increase viewership..... not the purist.
 
The jumpers are for the audience, the spectators and the non players.

It adds excitement to the production.

I totally agree with you, but the 9 BALL business model probably doesn't.

Productions have to cater too the audience to increase viewership..... not the purist.
Totally. If AverageJoe sports fan can't follow it easily its doomed from the start. I still think 10b is best compromise but 9b with a few tweaks would still work. Anyone talking 1p or 14.1 as a t.v. game is a purist living in fantasy land.
 
Totally. If AverageJoe sports fan can't follow it easily its doomed from the start. I still think 10b is best compromise but 9b with a few tweaks would still work. Anyone talking 1p or 14.1 as a t.v. game is a purist living in fantasy land.
Anyone who is still in the hopes of seeing pool played on TV again, is out of their mind! It'll never happen again in today's broadcast world!!
 
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