For my fans.....
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Not a troll thread. Just a simple reply to your continuous request.
Let me know when you want to be a big boy and dispute the facts presented in my thread.
duckie - This is a different thread than my hijacked thread.. Ball overlaps with pictures... and It's you who has now started this "For my fans....." thread ..so I'll now reply to you.
You tell me to go anywhere that you choose.. It's OK.. My problem is I didn't want my thread.. hijacked.. with other ways to aim. In my Post #31 to you I stated that, but it certainly didn't work did it?.. http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=446072&page=3
So I have a question for you. You say the OB has no edge. You say there's no 1/2 ball hit. You say the OB is a sphere, and only has a surface. You say the OB looks like a disc. If all that's true..
How do you know where to place your arrow?
You said you have.. Quote: "Never, ever, ever, ever visualized a ghost ball"... If you only visualize the OB as a disc.. how do you visualize your 'contact
patch ring" around a flat surfaced disc?
How do you know where to place your arrow?
I've seen the drawings that you put on my thread before... many times if fact.. attached to other threads started by someone else. It's not that what you've drawn is incorrect, but people don't see the OB from a top view.. they see the OB in front of the CB. They see balls with edges.
When folks see the ball edges, they have a OB center, and OB edge to gauge from. How about your "Contact Patch" on a flat table surface? How can anyone judge where that contact patch is?
Oh, I know.. it's where you place your "arrow".
I have no idea who you are.. probably a great guy, but I don't think attaching LARGE drawings on threads, other than your own, will help the OP to get his point across. No one can even read his remarks, or anybody else's replies. And speaking of replies, your response to Ekkes was not called for. He knows, teaches, and is a player... he's not a keyboard warrior.
Read BeiberLvrs thread... You might just "see" something... Regards, Carl
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I find it funny that someone would suggest that a ball has no edge, a statement as such is clearly incorrect. If you were able to line up behind two balls in succession and see the three dimensional version of the entire shot, then maybe you would be correct...problem with that theory is that when you are down on a ball you do not see a three dimensional version of the layout or shot or ball etc, you see a two dimension view on a three dimensional plane. This is how a half ball (which also doesn't exist bwahahaha) hit is determined by overlap, it is not rocket surgery.
The argument is completely silly if not intentionally obtuse, as you are arguing human perception, yours, which is obviously of the "if a tree falls in the forest" variety and pretty much everyone else in the world, who can percieve 3 dimensional objects in an objective 2 dimensional perception.
Honestly you only need to look at the next lunar eclipse, to verify that spheres have edges, otherwise there could be no eclipse.
The argument is completely silly if not intentionally obtuse, as you are arguing human perception, yours, which is obviously of the "if a tree falls in the forest" variety and pretty much everyone else in the world, who can percieve 3 dimensional objects in an objective 2 dimensional perception.
Honestly you only need to look at the next lunar eclipse, to verify that spheres have edges, otherwise there could be no eclipse.
You have no fans. I did not see your reply to Ekkes but if it's been in the same vein as your replies to myself and Stan I can imagine how awful it was.
Stan and Ekkes both have put so much work into helping others become better players that they deserve only praise for their work. They especially don't deserve criticism from someone like you who can't run three balls. I mean you might be able to run more than three balls now but we have seen no proof of it.
I guess to me it would be the same as if I bought a stock dirt bike off the floor at the local honda dealer and tried to talk down to the experts on a motorcycle forum. I know you "THINK" that you have some special insight into how to play pool and how to get good at pool but you simply don't.
Saying things like half-ball hits don't exist....just put the ball where it needs to be is simply silly. If that's all one needed to do then no one would need the arrow template you tout so highly.
Stan and Ekkes both have put so much work into helping others become better players that they deserve only praise for their work. They especially don't deserve criticism from someone like you who can't run three balls. I mean you might be able to run more than three balls now but we have seen no proof of it.
I guess to me it would be the same as if I bought a stock dirt bike off the floor at the local honda dealer and tried to talk down to the experts on a motorcycle forum. I know you "THINK" that you have some special insight into how to play pool and how to get good at pool but you simply don't.
Saying things like half-ball hits don't exist....just put the ball where it needs to be is simply silly. If that's all one needed to do then no one would need the arrow template you tout so highly.
Good read on exactly what is happening here...
https://theadminzone.com/threads/trolls-vs-internet-bullies.26193/
https://theadminzone.com/threads/trolls-vs-internet-bullies.26193/
Really not right of you to jump to conclusions before even reading my thread.
Who's really trolling?
How high are you?
Do you shoot from an almost upright position? If you don't see ball overlaps I'm assuming that your eyes are high over the shot. I've seen some people play that way with hardly any bend to their backbone. Are you that style of shooter? How high are your eyes over the table bed?
I imagine your 'contact patch' this way. If you were landing an airplane, it would be the patch of ground in the center of the runway where you want the wheels to touch. Is that an good example and if not, would you explain your term more fully.
I wish you no place in purgatory. People are just surprised at the opinion you hold over how you see the geometry of the table. At first I thought you were just spoofing the board and trying to prove a point with satire. Now I'm not so sure.
I'm not trolling, just curious about your stance and eye position.
Do you shoot from an almost upright position? If you don't see ball overlaps I'm assuming that your eyes are high over the shot. I've seen some people play that way with hardly any bend to their backbone. Are you that style of shooter? How high are your eyes over the table bed?
I imagine your 'contact patch' this way. If you were landing an airplane, it would be the patch of ground in the center of the runway where you want the wheels to touch. Is that an good example and if not, would you explain your term more fully.
I wish you no place in purgatory. People are just surprised at the opinion you hold over how you see the geometry of the table. At first I thought you were just spoofing the board and trying to prove a point with satire. Now I'm not so sure.
I'm not trolling, just curious about your stance and eye position.
Just what exactly is happening here? Start a thread and say that you can all go to hell.
No one's bullying you. I've got an idea. Start a poll.. Do you aim using a contact patch?
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A sphere, and an infinitely thin disk the same circumference of that sphere, will cast the same shadow, as the shadow is representative of the cross section of the object. While you may perceive an apparent "edge," by definition a solid spherical ball has only one surface, thus it does not have an edge, as an edge by definition is the intersection of two surfaces.
The overlap also does not represent what the eye sees, because as the CB gets farther away the OB, the OB looks smaller. Plus since our eyes are not at the level of the cue, the OB will appear to be "above" the CB by some distance. So you cannot just rely on ball overlap, unless you have the "gift" of orthogonal view, and nothing looks foreshortened. That is why the common method of affecting a half-ball hit is to aim the center of the CB to the "edge" of the OB.
It's a matter of adjusting to proportions - stick aiming helps.
My theory is that it's probably more accurate to aim the TOP of the CB to the apparent OB edge, because it is easier to visualize than trying to look through a CB center. It's probably a more realistic way to sight the line as well.
Haven't yall figured it out yet? Im gonna do things my way based on my 63 years of a wide variety of life experiences, none of which any of you have had.
I mean a wide variety which gives me some insight into alot of areas. I am the Master of the phrase......Jack of all trades, master of none. Put another way.....I know a little about alot unlike knowing alot about very little.
It is what a person experiences in life that shapes them, molds their minds. As such, not everyone is gonna approach life with the same views, concepts, notions and so on.
This is what prevents me from accepting what many ready accept as how to aim, how to play pool, how to do it so to speak. It just doesn't fit my world and it gonna take alot to change my mind in certain areas.....balls having edges is one of them.
So, you either get what I'm trying to present or you don't. Its that simple......and it ain't my problem if you don't.
I mean a wide variety which gives me some insight into alot of areas. I am the Master of the phrase......Jack of all trades, master of none. Put another way.....I know a little about alot unlike knowing alot about very little.
It is what a person experiences in life that shapes them, molds their minds. As such, not everyone is gonna approach life with the same views, concepts, notions and so on.
This is what prevents me from accepting what many ready accept as how to aim, how to play pool, how to do it so to speak. It just doesn't fit my world and it gonna take alot to change my mind in certain areas.....balls having edges is one of them.
So, you either get what I'm trying to present or you don't. Its that simple......and it ain't my problem if you don't.
Yah, you are that going out through the in door kinda guy.
BTW, don't stick yourself on the pedestal that you are special because of your experiences. You have no idea what experiences other members of this community have.
BTW, don't stick yourself on the pedestal that you are special because of your experiences. You have no idea what experiences other members of this community have.
I was surprised that this thread does have some redeeming social value. You see I only clicked on it to see if there were any fans. Then I saw JB's post. Holy smokes we do agree on something. A first!
Here's a picture of your biggest fans. Happy tilting.
GoldenFlash
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what a bunch of stuff.....
You might have to get an x-ray and discover that your ball joints have edges.....
:yikes:
Be careful you don't hurt a rotator cuff from all that reaching around and patting yourself on the back (for being so "insightful and knowledgeable").
You might have to get an x-ray and discover that your ball joints have edges.....
:yikes:
If you change your view by a half a degree the edge changes (actually an infinite amount between dead nuts and a half-degree); you're referencing off another part of the ball. With an OB in a 30 degree line (off the rail) to the pocket and a thick cut, it probably doesn't matter. 30 degrees to the side pocket with a thin cut, the difference is making it in or hitting the tit of the pocket. Because the margin of error on a thin cut, if you're looking at it from a fractional standpoint, is much smaller than the thick cut.