For Sale: Searing Precision Cue

cubswin said:
well if you were a dealer in a room then your cost shouldn't be for everyone in the world to see.

As far as someone saying they could get it on ebay for less, well there are a lot of arguments that can break that down. Such as all the scams, the shipping, the endless bad stories.

And if its true you can buy something new elsewhere for a third of the cost, well then I'd say I'm getting a bad deal from my vendors and would try to work on that.

I wasn't ripping you for trying to make a profit. Hell I could care less if you make a profit on cues you buy, I just don't get why your upset that people point out what you paid when its public knowledge.

Don't like it, well then don't sell cues here. Buy your own domain, get it hosted on a server, post the pictures, and don't respond to the bad emails.

Tap tap tap

Shorty
 
You guys are like a bunch of old wash women.If the guy asks whatever price he asks thats up to the prospective buyer.No one is forcing someone to buy the Searing for that price.You all should all mind your own business.The guy is 22 and will probably make more money then most of you because he gets it and you guys dont.
I hope he sells it for the full asking price.
Cues are like art,to someone who is not informed they wouldn't give you $20 for a Balabuska but would pay 1 million for a Monet.Its all subjective.
 
MarknTorrance said:
I have a question for you pinche. How come the item below was listed and sold. The listed again 10 day's later. Did they seller back out? You didnt give him negative feedback? This isnt that uncommon when you list things either.

Your old freind,

Mark-nTorrance


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21212&item=7157852890
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21212&item=7159868921
You think you know what I'm doing? That auction was a price barometer. I wanted to see what I could realisticly get for the cue.
 
ToughRowToHoe said:
You think you know what I'm doing? That auction was a price barometer. I wanted to see what I could realisticly get for the cue.
If you want more of my secrets, you'll have to pay. However,
you might ask why I didn't just put a reserve on the cue, right? Well, I pay attention to the psychology of the bidding. Nothing scares off bidders like a reserve. It's worse than no paypal, and it's worse than international sellers. I'm not an idiot, my intention wasn't to schill, but nice try.
 
ToughRowToHoe said:
You think you know what I'm doing? That auction was a price barometer. I wanted to see what I could realisticly get for the cue.

So, let me get this straight....You engaged in an ebay auction with no reserve, someone won the auction, and you didn't sell to that person. Geeze, according to ebay rules you are under legal obligation to sell that product. At the very least you wasted everyones time on you're little games. Boy, you're a real prize. I can't wait to do business! (this is sarcasm by the way)
 
Salamander said:
So, let me get this straight....You engaged in an ebay auction with no reserve, someone won the auction, and you didn't sell to that person. Geeze, according to ebay rules you are under legal obligation to sell that product. At the very least you wasted everyones time on you're little games. Boy, you're a real prize. I can't wait to do business! (this is sarcasm by the way)
This is getting rediculous so I'll break my rules and let know know how my brain works. I don't expect to sell the Searing for $1500 and I don't expect to sell the South West for $3000. I don't even really want to sell the cues untill winter. If I get lucky and catch a fish that's great. My game is psychological, but not in a maniacal way. There is built in haggle room in my prices. (a very basic concept.) I ask a $3000. Someone offers $2200. They think I'm making huge concessions when I'm acyually hitting my target price. Very simple stuff.
 
No offense to anyone here, but just because someone has an asking price of $1000 (just an example) doesn't mean they expect to get $1000. And just because someone gets an item on ebay for $1000 doesn't mean that's what it's worth. I don't know many real investors (in ANY market) that go to ebay. He picked up what he considers a deal and thought that maybe someone who doesn't want to pick through ebay with a comb (which I personally do quite frequently) might like to have. Ever seen the commercial for the lime green hatchback? Some guy out there may have Dennis Searing's picture autographed and framed, and every DS cue he can find in a room. (Okay, so maybe not, but it's possible.)

I don't know many people who start their For Sale ad with the actual amount they expect to get. I know I always price mine over what I want, I have a number that I at least expect to get, and anything they talk me down to over and equal to that number, I'm happy. Most buyers SHOULD be the same way. They have a number they're willing to give and start an offer BELOW what they are willing to pay. Anything below or equal to the number they want go give and THEY are happy. Hopefully these numbers meet in the middle and EVERYONE is happy.

How many of you are willing to step in and knock someone's actions on a pool table? Unless it's a good friend of yours who asks for advice, you should keep your mouth shut. If someone is willing to pay the money for it, then this kid should be commended for living the american dream. For those of you who are scared to risk your own money, and go out on a limb then skitter off into the dark with the rest of the mice. NOW if you are risking your own money, this doesn't apply to you, so don't counter back how you do and you have a right to your opinion. Sure you do, but not in this young man's thread. Price of a cue is very subjective, just as the hit is. There are people every day you go into a pool hall and say "wow what a nice cue, how much did you pay for it?" Then they here the number and say "But it's just a piece of wood, are you crazy?" And walk away shaking their head with a $15 wal-mart cue in their hands. If you can't believe the price, just walk away. If you are interested in the cue, give Tough a holler.

Sorry for this being so long.

JMNSHO,
~Shakes
 
I Believe This Is A Discussion Forum

This is a place for discussions.

This particular forum is to announce that something is for sale or wanted.

Once something is announced, my "friends" and I discuss anything and everything related to the announcement. If the announcer doesn't like what my "friends" and I are discussing, (s)he shouldn't listen in.

"Hey Frank, did ya see that cue for sale for $1,000? Ya, John, I think it's way over priced. Well Frank, it's made by a great cue maker, but I heard the guy just paid $700 for it. Ya, that cue sucks for that, I'm thinking about buying that ivory one we were talking about, but maybe I'll ask that guy if he'll take $800 . . . . . "

If anyone gets offended by open public discussions, they shouldn't post in open public forums.
 
ToughRowToHoe said:
If you want more of my secrets, you'll have to pay. However,
you might ask why I didn't just put a reserve on the cue, right? Well, I pay attention to the psychology of the bidding. Nothing scares off bidders like a reserve. It's worse than no paypal, and it's worse than international sellers. I'm not an idiot, my intention wasn't to schill, but nice try.


You give yourself to much credit. You methods are no secrete. There have been con artist since the dawn of time. You are out to make money and it doesn't matter to you if your dishonest in your effort.

Mark-n-Torrance <--already paid a price dealing with this guy.
 
ToughRowToHoe said:
There is built in haggle room in my prices. (a very basic concept.)

OK, I will start the haggling then...I'll offer you $100.00 for the Searing.
 
Worminator said:
OK, I will start the haggling then...I'll offer you $100.00 for the Searing.

I'll give you $400. Now, for my .02 cents:

As far as ToughRowtoHoe goes, here is a classic case of someone buying something for a decent price and trying to turn a profit on it. What do we call this? Capitalism. Smart business. Is he going to get the kind of money he is asking? Maybe. Maybe not. But he is free to ask whatever he wants. To have a bunch of guys tearing into him because they don't like his price, all I can say is shut your mouths and move on. Look elsewhere. If he never gets what he asks for, he will have learned his lesson.

As for other people who have responded in this thread (many, many times over) lets not forget the fact that some of you (I'm being specific here) are nothing more than chain jerkers. I mean, how many times have people on this thread (again, specific) backed out of an all but finalized deal before? Well, one such individual in here did it twice with me! Now he is going to criticize someone else's business practices?

Let the man ask what he wants. The way I see it is, if he asks a price and doesn't get it, he changes his price or hangs onto it but, he got a great cue at a great price. Yet, there is nothing more annoying than people who waste your time inquiring about every f*cking cue that is posted for sale when underneath it all, thay have no intention of buying to begin with!
 
MarknTorrance said:
So in other words you had a shill bidder run up the price. I guess that would explain why you bid on so many of his auctions.

Mark-n-Torrance

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...pinchegringo&completed=1&all=1&rows=25&sort=3
What price did you pay? You paid $1100 for a Bender Purpleheart Titlist in perfect condition: only one ever made.; only one that will ever be made. You didn't like it, and I offered to buy it back used, in a slow market for $900.

Snitch.
 
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MarknTorrance said:
So in other words you had a shill bidder run up the price. I guess that would explain why you bid on so many of his auctions.

Mark-n-Torrance

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...pinchegringo&completed=1&all=1&rows=25&sort=3
I bid on them because most bidders, including myself, hang around and wait untill the last second to bid. That's not a true auction. The deck is stacked against the seller. I'm more than willing to lose my ebay account if it prevents my friend from beaing cut-up by the vultures. Would you do the same, snitch?

By the way, have you ever been to a car auction? If you think I'm bad, go check those guys out.
 
ToughRowToHoe said:
Fucking snitch.


So, let me better understand your response to Mark-n-Torrance.

Are you admitting to shill bidding, breaking the rules on eBay and being an unethical person ??

I had thought this thread was just slightly over-the-top banter. Your response of calling someone a "snitch" suggests that you are a crook and are upset that someone would provide evidence to that effect.
 
ToughRowToHoe said:
I bid on them because most bidders, including myself, hang around and wait untill the last second to bid. That's not a true auction. The deck is stacked against the seller. I'm more than willing to lose my ebay account if it prevents my friend from beaing cut-up by the vultures. Would you do the same, snitch?

By the way, have you ever been to a car auction? If you think I'm bad, go check those guys out.
That's the way things are. If you don't innovate, you get left in the dust.
 
Regulator1956 said:
So, let me better understand your response to Mark-n-Torrance.

Are you admitting to shill bidding, breaking the rules on eBay and being an unethical person ??

I had thought this thread was just slightly over-the-top banter. Your response of calling someone a "snitch" suggests that you are a crook and are upset that someone would provide evidence to that effect.
I'm admitting to evening the playing field. It's no worse than bidding at the last second and stealing a $30 video for $2.50.

As for snitch, that's what he is. He stepped in only to dump a pile of shit on my head. That's snitch.
 
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