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Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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They need to get rid of that foul for lining the Q-ball up for break&Ball in hand with Q-stick. Probably 95%+ of the players do this automaticly. Plus at that moment in the game(with ball in hand) your thinking of where to start and what patern you want to run out. It's just a silly rule. Could this be a Mike rule? Johnnyt
 
Smorgass Bored said:
I believe that I read here, that rule has been changed...
Doug
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Sorry didn't see it. Was going to call my congressman. Thanks Smoregass Bored. Johnnyt
 
Yeah, get rid of it, why make them play like professionals?

And get rid of the dress code. Who do they think they are, primadonas?

And let them smoke in the playing arena.

And let them drink in the playing arena.

Who needs all these stinking rules anyway?

Golfers can nudge the ball anytime they want so why can't pool players? Oh wait, that's winter rules by the dubbers.

And the above rules are not followed by the ball bangers.

Jake
 
I don't mind the rule. Actually, I kind of like it. It totally eliminated having to referee that part of the game. You know, because it goes from using the shaft, to the ferrule, then players are adjusting with the edge of the tip....

Eliminate all question and doubt, use your hand - is it really that difficult?


BTW, I don't think KT came up with these rules, Sigel did. That's my theory. If Sigel could get away with it, the it would be an IPT rule to play left handed only...;)
 
jjinfla said:
Yeah, get rid of it, why make them play like professionals?

And get rid of the dress code. Who do they think they are, primadonas?

And let them smoke in the playing arena.

And let them drink in the playing arena.

Who needs all these stinking rules anyway?

Golfers can nudge the ball anytime they want so why can't pool players? Oh wait, that's winter rules by the dubbers.

And the above rules are not followed by the ball bangers.

Jake
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For crying out loud Jake, is no one allowed to disagree with anything IPT related? Must you really heckle every person by shoving how great the IPT is down their throats when they disagree with one minor thing??:rolleyes:
 
Timberly said:
For crying out loud Jake, is no one allowed to disagree with anything IPT related? Must you really heckle every person by shoving how great the IPT is down their throats when they disagree with one minor thing??:rolleyes:
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Ha Ha Ha. You really should get rid of that Avatar. Are you really that ugly? It's your twin brother right?

And here I thought you were a lady with class.

But of course you prove to one and all that I'm just wrong again.
 
jjinfla said:
Ha Ha Ha. You really should get rid of that Avatar. Are you really that ugly? It's your twin brother right?

And here I thought you were a lady with class.

But of course you prove to one and all that I'm just wrong again.
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I never said that I was classy, nor have I resorted to degrading your personality.

At some point in time you should try actually conversing with people instead of telling them that they're illiterate losers because they don't blindly follow things in life as you do.
 
jjinfla said:
....Golfers can nudge the ball anytime they want so why can't pool players? Oh wait, that's winter rules by the dubbers....
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Maybe that one isn't quite appropriate for inclusion in your sarcastic list.

A ball already in play certainly can't be nudged but a ball already in play is not in any way the golf equivalent of pool ball in hand.The nearest equivalent is the preparation for the tee shot.Prior to making a stroke at the ball on the teeing ground the rules of golf allow the player to use his club to nudge it,reposition it,tap it down....hell he can even knock it off the tee with his club during his practice swing or during his take away for the actual sroke,all without penalty,provided he hasn't made a downward stroke at it;)
 
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jjinfla said:
Yeah, get rid of it, why make them play like professionals?

And get rid of the dress code. Who do they think they are, primadonas?

And let them smoke in the playing arena.

And let them drink in the playing arena.

Who needs all these stinking rules anyway?

Golfers can nudge the ball anytime they want so why can't pool players? Oh wait, that's winter rules by the dubbers.

And the above rules are not followed by the ball bangers.

Jake
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Do you have PMS everyday or just when someone says anything neg. about the IPT or Kevin? Johnnyt
 
Bola Ocho said:
I don't mind the rule. Actually, I kind of like it. It totally eliminated having to referee that part of the game. You know, because it goes from using the shaft, to the ferrule, then players are adjusting with the edge of the tip....

Eliminate all question and doubt, use your hand - is it really that difficult?
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Actually, it is really difficult to position a cueball out of range, especially for a short player. To have to eyeball it from the side, set the CB down, walk back around, reposition a fraction, walk back to the head of the table, walk back down and adjust a millimeter - see where I am going with this? Usually, I will just elect to take the tougher, longer shot that I can reach, but what if that path is blocked by other balls or it is the ONLY correct way to shoot it?

If it is understood that only the top of the cueball is touched by the cue, whether ferrule or stick, it shouldn't matter and only takes an instant to position.
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rackmsuckr said:
Actually, it is really difficult to position a cueball out of range, especially for a short player.
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Speaking from personal experience, this is very accurate. About 1/2 of my ball-in-hand shots on 9' tables get final adjustment with my cue shaft. It's either that or walk around the table a few times getting things lined up, and then someone will complain about slow play :(

I prefer the World Standardized Rule 3.40 for this reason.

Dave, who's never bumped his forehead :D
 
Actually, it is really difficult to position a cueball out of range, especially for a short player. To have to eyeball it from the side, set the CB down, walk back around, reposition a fraction, walk back to the head of the table, walk back down and adjust a millimeter - see where I am going with this? Usually, I will just elect to take the tougher, longer shot that I can reach, but what if that path is blocked by other balls or it is the ONLY correct way to shoot it?

If it is understood that only the top of the cueball is touched by the cue, whether ferrule or stick, it shouldn't matter and only takes an instant to position.
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Short people got no reason to live!

(Don't blame me. Randy Newman wrote it)
 
Str8PoolMan said:
Short people got no reason to live!

(Don't blame me. Randy Newman wrote it)
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Oh ya ? Well, I'm going straight over to that 'cover song' thread and tell everyone about the Chevy Chase cover of Short People on his 1983 self titled album - his version was Tall People :D Of course this is the same man who said he measures golfers by their height ... hmmmm :confused:

Dave, who is a perfect height for a man of his size :p
 
I've heard the IPT has modified the rule now such that before the break or with ball in hand, the player CAN move the cueball with the shaft (not tip) to position it without a foul.
 
tedkaufman said:
I've heard the IPT has modified the rule now such that before the break or with ball in hand, the player CAN move the cueball with the shaft (not tip) to position it without a foul.
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Yes,the rule was amended quite some time ago and I know for sure that the version you describe above was used in at least one of the NA Open qualifiers.
 
rackmsuckr said:
Bola Ocho said:
I don't mind the rule. Actually, I kind of like it. It totally eliminated having to referee that part of the game. You know, because it goes from using the shaft, to the ferrule, then players are adjusting with the edge of the tip....

Eliminate all question and doubt, use your hand - is it really that difficult?
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Actually, it is really difficult to position a cueball out of range, especially for a short player. To have to eyeball it from the side, set the CB down, walk back around, reposition a fraction, walk back to the head of the table, walk back down and adjust a millimeter - see where I am going with this? Usually, I will just elect to take the tougher, longer shot that I can reach, but what if that path is blocked by other balls or it is the ONLY correct way to shoot it?

If it is understood that only the top of the cueball is touched by the cue, whether ferrule or stick, it shouldn't matter and only takes an instant to position.
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TOTALLY AGREED, for example, Im just a short, no good, wanna be pool player, but the precision of the placement of the CB with the stick cant be achieved with hands, no Sr., no way, NO NO NO :p
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