From the Monkey Man

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Danny Harriman said:
I would like to state for the record about the incident where I did not keep one foot on the floor, prior to my match against Archer I overheard Earl talking to the ref. and questioning Jose Parica. I turned my head and there was Jose one of the greatest players on the planet stretched out with his feet no where close to the ground, Earl asked the ref if this was a foul and she said no. I thought to myself that is insanity to not have one foot on the floor, Earl went on to explain that it was a poor rule and the ref. responded by saying "well Earl he is not as tall as you." I am familiar with the equipment and how delicate the cushions are when abused like sitting on them as Jose was doing.
Here is my question to recovery jones and his cute little ditty about the monkey man finding a loop hole, if the greatest players out there are taking advantage of a rule that should be place but is not then why should I let them have full advantage over me. The reason I won the match against Archer was not because I climbed the table, when he would not shake my hand I found an earman and said that I was really beginning to like this 8-ball. Johnny showed his worst side again by asking me to gamble, to which I had a strong and confident response, I told him that if he wanted we could cruise down to the local billiard room and play either some One Pocket or Bumps for a minimum of $500.00 a game. He said he didn't play One Pocket or Bank Pool, Johnny is a champion but he steped over the line when he asked me to gamble, he prefers to play the games that are mostly offensive and repetative. If he would have played and stepped out of his comfort zone he might have gotten one of his Georgia peachy feathers ruffled, as those are my best games and I would have like to have seen Johnny's One Pocket he has allways avoided playing these two games at the DCC and only played 9 ball, I can't understand that cause I think the Banks and One hole are the two best events.

Sincerely, Danny Harriman
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I don't really care for Johnny but on this one he is dead right. It doesn't say in the rules you can't piss on the table, so if you see another player do it are you going to. You were playing in a million dollar tournament and their trying to dress pool up and put on a classy event, show some class for christ sake!! Just like earl in the skins game on T.V. after earl fouls and the ref was blocked " if the ref does not see it it is not a foul" another classy move.
 
Like I said if you see somebody pissing on the table are you going to? All these guys have no class. The reason pool has never had any money in it before is because poolplayers are always trying to bend the rules or get around them so they can tell their buddies how smart they are. By the way, it says that Danny took his shoes off and than climbed on the table, what about the dress code you mean it doesn't say you have to wear shoes? He should just play in his bare feet next time for christs sake!!
 
I_groans69 said:
are you kinding me!!!! eight and out anytime he got a near shot. give me a break noone does that consistantly thats why the game is so difficult. your completely off track with that statement
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No.. I am not "kinding" you. And I checked the match. It was Wade Crane he destroyed, not Daulton.

And what the heck, over? Have you SEEN the match? I have the match on DVD, it was a race to 3, two of those game he ran 8 and out, and the third he ran 6 his first shot, and got out later in the rack.

You, sir, are being obtuse. Pros can, and often do consistently run 8 and out on the first shot in One Pocket. That's what makes them pros.

If you respond to another one of my posts in this obtuse, non-spelling, arrogant manner, I'm gonna do my best to get as many people as I can to give you negative rep for it.

Russ
 
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thebighurt said:
Like I said if you see somebody pissing on the table are you going to? All these guys have no class. The reason pool has never had any money in it before is because poolplayers are always trying to bend the rules or get around them so they can tell their buddies how smart they are. By the way, it says that Danny took his shoes off and than climbed on the table, what about the dress code you mean it doesn't say you have to wear shoes? He should just play in his bare feet next time for christs sake!!
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Like the poster who originally put up that stupid song, obviously you haven't bothered to read the other posts about him being on the table.

1. Pissing on the table has already been deemed to be "marking or otherwise changing the playing equipment" which IS against the rules.

and

2. The referee is the one who told him to take off his shoes.

Russ
 
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JimBo said:
You play by the rules presented, when in Rome....Yada yada yada, it's over and done with, it was a loop hole. I can't believe there could be such a loop hole, but there was. You owe no apology, as far as Johnny's behavior after I am sure it was a heat of the battle response and he should also get a pass. I think (hope) it's in the past and hope it stays there. You'd think that with such a large purse they would have spent some of the cash to get the rules straight first.

Jim
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Once again, I'm with Jim on this. You don't owe any apologies to anybody. There was a loophole in the rules that was as ridiculous as could be imagined but, when dicovered, you, like many others players, used it to your advantage. In short, you played the game within the confines of the rules. If Johnny decided to impose a second set of rules of his own, he can NOT expect anyone else to play by them! Hats off on a fine performance Danny. And I would have loved to see that banks/one-hole match-up.
 
Russ Chewning said:
Russ
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I'm not going to follow you around warning you constantly, so re-read the posted rules and follow them.

Just one more insult and you'll get a break from the board.
 
By the rules...

Danny, I don't know about all the puritans out there, but where I come from you have to know and play by the local rules if you want to be competitive. I was talking to our old buddy from Nashville, James, the other day, and he was happy and more than a little bit proud of your results.
 
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Mr. Wilson said:
I'm not going to follow you around warning you constantly, so re-read the posted rules and follow them.

Just one more insult and you'll get a break from the board.
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I never got any other warning, sir. The reason I came back and changed my two posts on this thread was because another AZer PM'ed me and told me nicely I may have used irrational language. Out of respect for the person and his nocombative PM, I changed it.

Russ
 
Truly if it wasn't against any posted rules what could Johnny do??? If I were playing Danny I would be amused by him climbing the table but as for Johnny calling him out to gamble is just backsliding in my opinion...I can't count how many times I've pummeled someone in a tourney and they want to gamble immediately there after out of anger, as if beating them once wasn't enough....:D ...when I say let's play some one pocket they always want to play 9-ball, why is that I wonder?? Could it be they need the luck factor that come with 9-ball and not the pure skill that is needed with other games like 1 hole and banks for example???
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suckershot,lolololol,"lint picking appointment before the next match".isnt that the most accurrate statement .lolololol.
too funny
 
Russ Chewning said:
I never got any other warning, sir. The reason I came back and changed my two posts on this thread was because another AZer PM'ed me and told me nicely I may have used irrational language. Out of respect for the person and his nocombative PM, I changed it.

Russ
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I didn't say you were previously warned, I said I'm not going to follow you around, as in trying to make sure you stop with the abusive and racial insults.

There is no margin for this on this board.

Your "mongoloid" comment took you right to the edge.

As previously stated, please re-read the rules for the board so we do not have any further "misunderstandings".
 
Gerry said:
Great job at the IPT event Danny, you showed us all a lot in the match against Drago. At 5'6" I would have needed a ladder to get up on that Diamond, Then I would have walked from one end of that table to the other naked to win that kind of money playing pool!:D

I wish I were there to hear that barking between you and Johnny. Shame nothing ever came from it YET :D please keep us all informed on that. Also...don't ask Johnny to play straight pool....in the 2000 U.S.Open(i think) he went 150......TWICE. I watched that match with Johnny and Shannon, and yes, he went out at every chance, so I'm sure he plays all games, but like all smart game makers, he wants to play HIS game.

good luck, Gerry
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I stand corrected...well, more informed, than corrected, but yes, credit to Archer for his 14.1 ability, from your comment as well as Fred's.
 
Cornerman said:
Johnny Archer won his first 14.1 professional event, beating Nick Varner in the final finals. He ran a 199.

Fred
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?!?

I thought the record high run in tournament competition was quite a bit less than 199, and I definitely didn't remember Johnny Archer being the name associated with the record run. Was I way off here? Can someone provide more details?

-Andrew
 
Andrew Manning said:
?!?

I thought the record high run in tournament competition was quite a bit less than 199, and I definitely didn't remember Johnny Archer being the name associated with the record run. Was I way off here? Can someone provide more details?

-Andrew
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From what I read years ago, his continuation of his run was after he'd already won. Unlike the previous discussion of Hohmann's unfinished run, this happened to be Archer's first professional 14.1 tournament IIRC, and his high run. I believe it was reported that he officially ran 196 or 199, that it was in 93, no 92, maybe 91. Someone needs to confirm that. It was a three tournament affair, with 14.1 being one of the events/ Egged on by the fans, he continued. He swatted at what would have been 200. Archer won the other disciplines as well.

Anyone here see it? I just read it as it was reported.

Fred
 
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suckershot said:
Interesting, yes...weird, I don't know. I'd never heard of Archer playing either. I'd only heard of him playing 8 and 9. I wonder if he even delves into 14.1?
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He has played 14.1. A buddy of mine watched him years ago play a in some 14.1 championships and he ran 150 balls.

And I'm sure he has played 1pocket, bank pool, 7ball, snooker, billiards, and even billiard golf. But when it comes to money I'm sure he's going to stick with what he is comfortable with.

I don't enjoy playing 9ball. I much prefer 1pocket and 8ball. But there are those who hate 1pocket and 8ball and won't play anything but 9ball. I play 9ball on league and will play it in tournaments. But for fun I rarely touch it. ANd though I don't gamble if I did I probably wouldn't gamble on 9ball. But would on 1pocket and 8ball. Or even 14.1. It's just that I'm comfortable with.

I do see Archer at my pool hall a bunch. I've always wanted to come in and see Cliff Joyner and Johnny Archer in a 1pocket game since they both frequent there. I think that would be sweet.

Oh. For the "Monkey Climbing". I'm a 1foot on the floor person. But if I was playing for money and I found a loophole I'd climb the table and stand on my forehead on any shot I have in question if it meant the difference between me making the shot and winning money or keeping my pride and doing "What is right" and loosing the money.
 
smittie1984 said:
He has played 14.1. A buddy of mine watched him years ago play a in some 14.1 championships and he ran 150 balls.

And I'm sure he has played 1pocket, bank pool, 7ball, snooker, billiards, and even billiard golf. But when it comes to money I'm sure he's going to stick with what he is comfortable with.

I don't enjoy playing 9ball. I much prefer 1pocket and 8ball. But there are those who hate 1pocket and 8ball and won't play anything but 9ball. I play 9ball on league and will play it in tournaments. But for fun I rarely touch it. ANd though I don't gamble if I did I probably wouldn't gamble on 9ball. But would on 1pocket and 8ball. Or even 14.1. It's just that I'm comfortable with.

I do see Archer at my pool hall a bunch. I've always wanted to come in and see Cliff Joyner and Johnny Archer in a 1pocket game since they both frequent there. I think that would be sweet.

Oh. For the "Monkey Climbing". I'm a 1foot on the floor person. But if I was playing for money and I found a loophole I'd climb the table and stand on my forehead on any shot I have in question if it meant the difference between me making the shot and winning money or keeping my pride and doing "What is right" and loosing the money.
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Yeah, I corrected myself above, thanks to comments from a couple of members. I understand that Archer probably feels more comfortable with 8 or 9.

I agree...I don't play much 9-ball except APA, because it tends to go faster than 8-ball. I rarely play it for fun now, unless there is a person who I'm playing that will not play one pocket. Usually with APA players in my area, it's 8 or 9 only...most of them haven't even heard of one pocket, and they've seen 14.1 but don't know how to play it. 14.1 has become my individual practice game, one pocket my preferred game for fun, 8 and 9 when I play someone that won't play anything else.
 
Cory in DC said:
Actually, I shoot like that pretty often. You can stretch your back leg out pretty far and keep the tips of the toes on your back foot on the ground. I'm not saying he definitely had a foot down, but I don't think you can say he didn't from that picture.

Cory
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I was a corner man for Corey the table next to Gabe when he made that shot. He was 100% on the table and Kevin and Sigel were behide me watching and that is when Kevin said he would be changing the rule the next day. Kevin never meant for people to be aloud to climb on the table to shoot balls, it was just a rule that got left out on accident, but is now corrected. I made a mention to Gabe looking like a monkey and having the rule changed because Kevin saw him, in the round 6, Rodney and Efren match that Gabe and I commetated on.
 
suckershot said:
I stand corrected...well, more informed, than corrected, but yes, credit to Archer for his 14.1 ability, from your comment as well as Fred's.
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Can't say what his high run is but I did see him at the Joss finale(not this one but last years) and he was practicing by playing straight pool. I counted 50 before he had to give up the table.
I was very impressed at how easy he made it look.
 
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