FS Richard Harris

Richard's 3 piece Jp's are around $200.00 .

EVERY DEAL I make I let it be known if both party's are not happy with the trade/deal after recieving there goods then eather has the option to kill the deal !
Had I got this cue in the mail after reading all the posts I would have rejected the sell moments after opening the tube !

There's nothing wrong with having a less than perfect cue but. it's bad wrong not to list the issue's when selling it !

Give the man his money back !!!

Bill
 
wjpjr said:
Richard's 3 piece Jp's are around $200.00 .

Bill
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I think he should get his money back also. The small nicks here and there is one thing but the joint protectors are expensive and not original to the cue. I certainly would be upset also.
 
The full set of joint protectors are not $200 from Richard. They should be though! :)

And the ones for the shafts are 100% NOT Richard's work.

PM sent.

Kelly


wjpjr said:
Richard's 3 piece Jp's are around $200.00 .

EVERY DEAL I make I let it be known if both party's are not happy with the trade/deal after recieving there goods then eather has the option to kill the deal !
Had I got this cue in the mail after reading all the posts I would have rejected the sell moments after opening the tube !

There's nothing wrong with having a less than perfect cue but. it's bad wrong not to list the issue's when selling it !

Give the man his money back !!!

Bill
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Not sure if it's his "standard pricing" but I asked Richard a couple of weeks ago about getting some matching JP's for my Blue Grass (ended up buying the originals from the guy that sold the cue to the guy I bought it from ) <== strange story

Anyway, Richard quoted me a full set of matching JP's at around $130.00 These were to match ebony and maple rings so I'm not sure if that price is inline with JP's to match YOUR cue, but it should be a pretty good starting point

Good luck getting this resolved. BTW great looking cue and I bet plays pretty sporty too!
 
ugotactionTX said:
Not sure if it's his "standard pricing" but I asked Richard a couple of weeks ago about getting some matching JP's for my Blue Grass (ended up buying the originals from the guy that sold the cue to the guy I bought it from ) <== strange story

Anyway, Richard quoted me a full set of matching JP's at around $130.00 These were to match ebony and maple rings so I'm not sure if that price is inline with JP's to match YOUR cue, but it should be a pretty good starting point

Good luck getting this resolved. BTW great looking cue and I bet plays pretty sporty too!
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I think the JP that I order for my RH is about $130.00, shaft was $175 for a complete set and the one for the shaft is actually more expense that the butt JP.

Regards,
Duc.
 
No Luck with PayPal....

Well folks, this is my first negative experience with PayPal.

I'll just tell you that PayPal is worthless on here for any Buyers if you get anything not as described or incomplete -- you are SOL :thud:

......SELLER, STILL NO RESPONSE -- BACK TO THE TOP :mad:
 
I think what you real mean in regards to pay-pal, is that things didn't go your way! Your claims are false and unjustified so they denied you. You are the one who wanted pay-pal and then insist that I pay the fees?
 
???

saint1 said:
I think what you real mean in regards to pay-pal, is that things didn't go your way! Your claims are false and unjustified so they denied you. You are the one who wanted pay-pal and then insist that I pay the fees?
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I don't quite understand but he is complaining because he did not received the cue as what you describe in the first place.

The most obvious issue with the cue is the non-original bluegrass joint protectors. I think you should talk through with him regarding this issue, maybe give him some $ in return for him to order a new jp from Richard harris.
 
I know you don't understand. Thats because you were not involved in the transaction and not privy to all the PM's sent back and forth between us. You are only aware of one side of the story and only the parts he wishes to share with you. Does it say in the post that there is matching J.Protectors? Is there any in the pictures? Does it say anywhere that all sales are final? I was trying to keep a private transaction just that! But I will reply tomorrow as I am too tired to sit here typing for an hour tonight.
 
What I know to be true...

I have sat back until now waiting to see how this was going to get resolved. I have watched Ken be called a "liar" by involved parties.
I know two things to be true.
1. Ken is not now nor ever has been a liar. He has bent over backwards on every transaction that he has been involved in to insure that all parties involved were completely satisfied.
2. That if you are not will to stand behind your end of a transaction (buyer or seller) 100% then you should not be doing business on this site.
This guy needs to stop being a complete nit and do the right thing.
Oh there is a 3rd thing I know to be true...This is bullshit!
Tommy
 
Wrong !!!

Catahula said:
I have sat back until now waiting to see how this was going to get resolved. I have watched Ken be called a "liar" by involved parties. Tommy
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There are only two involved parties ... krbsailing & saint1, PERIOD !!!

I chimed-in (unsolicited) after the "Airborne Slug" conspired to post the name of the Seller, and he had never laid eyes on the Cue. I, on the other hand, have seen the Cue up-close-and-personal and also read ALL of the PM's between the involved parties. Let me just say this ... "You will be enlightened with the truth."

The rest of them (read that: You, FLYINGSNAIL, Nick Serdula, Cuemaster98, and a host of others) chose to enter the fray without ever actually closely examining the Cue in question, but you are dead certain you know all the facts..

P.S. - Please show me where (at any time) the Seller has called the Buyer a LIAR ........ He didn't, I did.
 
Not Exactly......

saint1 said:
I think what you real mean in regards to pay-pal, is that things didn't go your way! Your claims are false and unjustified so they denied you. You are the one who wanted pay-pal and then insist that I pay the fees?
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I wanted to use PayPal because I had funds sitting there that I could use to help pay you the $1K. In order for PayPal to refund my money I need to return the cue to you which at this point I'm reluctant to do.

Mark, my claims are anything but false; your response to my first inquiry was and I quote :
Hello. Cue is 2003, No weight bolt. He doesn't use them. Butt of cue is epoxy sealed, like a South West. Balance point 18.75. Shafts both over 13mm. I am firm on the 1000.00. Just got several PM's and think it may sell this week-end. Great hitting cue, just Too light for me and also never had leather wrap before and not my cup of tea. Also has matching J. Protectors.

Thanks Mark
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You didn't have to agree to accept PayPal or you could have asked for me to cover those fees but, we didn't have that conversation.
 
You were the guy.....

Str8PoolPlayer said:
There are only two involved parties ... krbsailing & saint1, PERIOD !!!

I chimed-in (unsolicited) after the "Airborne Slug" conspired to post the name of the Seller, and he had never laid eyes on the Cue. I, on the other hand, have seen the Cue up-close-and-personal and also read ALL of the PM's between the involved parties. Let me just say this ... "You will be enlightened with the truth."

The rest of them (read that: You, FLYINGSNAIL, Nick Serdula, Cuemaster98, and a host of others) chose to enter the fray without ever actually closely examining the Cue in question, but you are dead certain you know all the facts..

P.S. - Please show me where (at any time) the Seller has called the Buyer a LIAR ........ He didn't, I did.
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I guess you must have missed the first reply to my inquiry to Mark about the cue -- please read the above quote!

Have you looked at the pics included above they were sent to Mark a week ago!?

Also, so we are all clear here, there is no conspiracy here whatsoever. It was unfortunate that this thread got posted in the other thread and, that you chimed in the way to did as well.

The reality is that this cue should have matching JP's and it does not. The pics in the FS thread are old pics from when he bought the cue and no flaws of any kind were mentioned or shown in the thread or, in any PMs for that matter. I've been trying to resolve this from the time I opened the box -- privately at first --now here we are fellas.
 
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what's wrong with just making it right?

saint1

It appears as though that's EXACTLY what you said.. If I can assume Ken's quote of your pm is accurate. What I don't understand is the reluctance to just make it right? why risk your reputation on this forum ( unless it's not important to you) Believe me when I tell you that if you get "branded" a liar or a cheat, your time here will probably be short and not very enjoyable.

"Hello. Cue is 2003, No weight bolt. He doesn't use them. Butt of cue is epoxy sealed, like a South West. Balance point 18.75. Shafts both over 13mm. I am firm on the 1000.00. Just got several PM's and think it may sell this week-end. Great hitting cue, just Too light for me and also never had leather wrap before and not my cup of tea. Also has matching J. Protectors.

Thanks Mark"

If this PM is accurate(no reason to believe otherwise) than you certainly implied that the JP's "matched" . They do match "each other" but certainly do not match the cue or the Butt piece...

Just the opinion of a non-biased observer....:grin:
 
Yes .......

krbsailing said:

I guess you must have missed the first reply to my inquiry to Mark about the cue -- please read the above quote!

Have you looked at the pics included above they were sent to Mark a week ago!?
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I couldn't help but notice the BLOWN UP shots you posted.
PhotoShop and a ZOOM lens can do wonders.

The "ding" you grossly exaggerate is under the ORIGINAL finish and is a
part of the manufacturing process. Take it up with Mr. Harris and see how far you get.

As for the "tiny" imperfections at the Shaft Joints, you could have caused them by over-torquing the shafts while assembling. I see this condition all the time.

FACT IS: The Cue was not mis-represented in any way and you received exactly what you paid for ... A Used Players Cue ...

Had you not tried to strong-arm the Seller then bring your Pal, the Snail, into the mix you may have been able to negotiate an agreement.

Who knows, it may still be possible ... Continuing to air these issues in public is not the best way to resolve what you see as a problem.

I really hate to see these things happen. I know Mark is a straight-up guy and I believe you are too. You have a lot of support from your friends and that is good ... unless it unjustly harms others and their reputation.
 
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Adding more Fuel to the Fire, eh ?

Quote from ugotaction TX: If I can assume Ken's quote of your pm is accurate. What I don't understand is the reluctance to just make it right? why risk your reputation on this forum ( unless it's not important to you) Believe me when I tell you that if you get "branded" a liar or a cheat, your time here will probably be short and not very enjoyable.

Your assumptions only add more fuel to this fire.

You want to believe everything KRB writes and that makes it okay ?

Also, you are trying to strong-arm the Seller with your threats of
total banishment from the forums.

You are not an unbiased observer when you make inflammatory accusations.
 
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Huh?

I have a hard time believing this...but I could be wrong. I seriously doubt Richard would send out a cue with a "ding" like this. As far as it being "under" the finish, I certainly can't tell that from the pics and unless they've seen it personally, I doubt ANYONE could ... So are you implying that Richard puts dings in his cues "as part of the manufacturing process"?:D Doubtful! Whether or not these imperfections were mentioned in the original sales description is really the issue. NOT whether or not they were there from Richards shop. were they?

I mean even when a "used cue" is sold shouldn't any and all blemishes be mentioned? just because it's a "used player's cue" that doesn't excuse omissions like dings or blemishes. I have seen sales descriptions on here that point out over and over EVERY imperfection to avoid this exact scenerio...

[/QUOTE]
The "ding" you grossly exaggerate is under the ORIGINAL finish and is a
part of the manufacturing process. Take it up with Mr. Harris and see how far you get.

As for the "tiny" imperfections at the Shaft Joints, you could have caused them by over-torquing the shafts while assembling. I see this condition all the time.

FACT IS: The Cue was not mis-represented in any way and you received exactly what you paid for ... A Used Players Cue ...

Had you not tried to strong-arm the Seller then bring your Pal, the Snail, into the mix you may have been able to negotiate an agreement.

Who knows, it may still be possible ... Continuing to air these issues in public is not the best way to resolve what you see as a problem.

I really hate to see these things happen. I know Mark is a straight-up guy and I believe you are too. You have a lot of support from your friends and that is good ... unless it unjustly harms others and their reputation.[/QUOTE]
 
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First of all....

I don't know Ken, never spoke with him, and never had a transaction with him so my "assumptions" are based on this PUBLIC thread and nothing more. I also did not "threaten" banishment.. Why would I? How could I? I am just a member here just as you are. the Mighty Wilson is the one with the power. :wink:

BTW just wondering... what comments/accusations of mine were "inflammatory"? I might want to apologize

Str8PoolPlayer said:
Quote from ugotaction TX: If I can assume Ken's quote of your pm is accurate. What I don't understand is the reluctance to just make it right? why risk your reputation on this forum ( unless it's not important to you) Believe me when I tell you that if you get "branded" a liar or a cheat, your time here will probably be short and not very enjoyable.

Your assumptions only add more fuel to this fire.

You want to believe everything KRB writes and that makes it okay ?

Also, you are trying to strong-arm the Seller with your threats of
total banishment from the forums.

You are not an unbiased observer when you make inflammatory accusations.
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ugotactionTX said:
I have a hard time believing this...but I could be wrong. I seriously doubt Richard would send out a cue with a "ding" like this. As far as it being "under" the finish, I certainly can't tell that from the pics and unless they've seen it personally, I doubt ANYONE could ...
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Have you seen the Cue up close ? .... NO

The imperfection is so minute that KRB had to magnify it several times to even make it visible in the picture.
I challenge you to see it with the naked eye.

You are nothing less than a s**t disturber who possesses NO facts.
 
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