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I was playing at this whole in the wall room one time. Playing a guy for 10 a rack or so. The walls of the room were cinder block. my opponent breaks, the CB flies off the table, bounces off the wall comes back on the table, and is back in play. we stand around for a minute in confusion on how to deal with this, then one of his buddies blurt out "balls in play, no foul ". WE continue the game and I end up winning through a two rail safe. But I can't help but wonder if that was a foul. some feed back plz.
 
I vaguely remember reading somewhere that if the cueball flyes off and touches anything but the table or it's accessories then it's a foul. So for instance hitting the lamp wouldn't be a foul but hitting the wall would.

Someone with better knowledge please correct me.
 
Under World-Standardized Rules, if the cue ball is "driven off the table" it's a foul. Here's the definition of "driven off the table."

8.5 Driven off the Table
A ball is considered driven off the table if it comes to rest other than on the playing surface but is not pocketed. A ball is also considered driven off the table if it would have been driven off the table except for striking an object such as a light fixture, piece of chalk or a player which causes it to return to the table.
A ball that contacts the top of the rail is not considered to have been driven off the table if it returns to the playing surface or enters a pocket.​
 
thanks for the repy, but im still gonna get his ass, i think it should be foul, whether it happened against me or for me. thanks anyways.
 
Wow, I didn't know you couldn't hit the light and have it land back on the table and be in play. I've seen people ram the cue ball up into the light 8 out of 10 breaks on a bad table before.
 
I was playing a guy 9 ball in Terre Haute, Indiana once and he hits the one, with a ton of draw and the ball must have bounced because it moved up rail vertically and got on top of the side of the table (where you put your hands when you shoot the ball), rolled down the rail and then the cue ball rolled back on the table with perfect position on the two ball.

I looked at him, he looked at me. I know my jaw dropped, and he continued shooting.

The guys name is Bob Weston, and he is the luckiest SOB, I have ever met.

No joke.

Ken;)
 
The craziest thing ive even seen was the cueball coming to a stop on the rail. Not on the cloth part either. Right on the actual formica. Seen it twice. Once was for money, we called the foul. Another time was for fun I made him shoot it from there. (and he friggin made it and ran out). Pools a crazy game thats for sure
 
Playing on a 12 x 6 snooker table I hit a long shot a hundred miles an hour. The ball hits the back of the pocket pops out.... Rolls down the side rail and lands in the side pocket. That is the luckiest shot I ever made. My friends jaw just dropped!!! We were playin for fun so I hurried up and contined to shoot while he scratched his head wondering if it was a foul. I will never forget it.
 
Wow, I didn't know you couldn't hit the light and have it land back on the table and be in play. I've seen people ram the cue ball up into the light 8 out of 10 breaks on a bad table before.

The light-fixture wording in the "Driven Off The Table" definition sounds ambiguous to me, or at least involves some judgment.

"A ball is also considered driven off the table if it would have been driven off the table except for striking an object such as a light fixture."​

If a ball hits a light fixture, how do we know whether it would have been driven off the table in the absence of the light fixture?

For example, if it's a break shot and the cue ball is hit directly into the last of four lights down the table (i.e., the ball did not hit the rack at all) at a high speed and then falls back onto the playing surface, well, OK, it was probably headed off the table had the light not been there. FOUL!

But what if a break shot hits the head ball, goes pretty much straight up from there, hits a light, then returns to the playing surface? I guess if I were a referee, and had no more guidance than the wording of the rule, I'd call it NO FOUL on the grounds that, in my judgment, it would have fallen back to the playing surface anyway.

But in some cases it might not be clear what would have happened if the light wasn't there. So it's a judgment call.

Anyone agree?
 
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I was playing a guy 9 ball in Terre Haute, Indiana once and he hits the one, with a ton of draw and the ball must have bounced because it moved up rail vertically and got on top of the side of the table (where you put your hands when you shoot the ball), rolled down the rail and then the cue ball rolled back on the table with perfect position on the two ball.

I looked at him, he looked at me. I know my jaw dropped, and he continued shooting.

The guys name is Bob Weston, and he is the luckiest SOB, I have ever met.

No joke.

Ken;)

that was gonna be my next post. only difference is it was the 4 ball and it rolled down the edge of the felt and into the side pocket. Funny.
 
Slop League

A few years ago, I played in a doubles slop league. It was position round where 1st plays 2nd, 3rd plays 4th, on down the line. We were in 2nd by a few points. Anyway it is the last game of the night and we needed it to with the league. My partner hookes himself on the 8. It was basically a straight in rail shot in the corner but one of their balls was in the way. It was an obvious jump shot for someone who can jump. The problem was my partner had never jumped a ball in his life. He wasn't a real good shot to begin with, hell he might of missed it if there ball wasn't in the way and it was straight in, lol. Anyway he tries to jump it with a full cue. I tried to talk him out of it, I could only see bad things happing. Any way he tries, it hops up but would never have cleared thier ball. It basically just two hopped sideways onto the top rail and rolls right down the formica past where thier ball was, hits the side pocket casting and falls back in play and knocks in the 8 ball. It was the dumbest thing I ever saw. We were playing the league operator's team. Damn he was pissed. Good stuff.
 
> I've totally shattered a light once,on a old 4x8 Brunswick Century playing in a 4 handed,2 dollar a man ring game. The slate under the spot probably had an 1/8 inch deep hole,along with a slightly worn spot and old cloth. It wasn't a tube light,this one had 3 single lightbulbs in it. The cue ball jumped DEAD STRAIGHT up into that first bulb,instead of coming back towards me some like I usually saw on that table,this wasn't uncommon because the spot was bad. It exploded and sparks shot out like that scene at the end of The Natural,where the scoreboard blew up. They didn't call a foul,the owner came and cleaned the glass up and replaced the bulb,my shot.

The other time was on a freshly covered older Valley bar box with the "good" magnetic bar ball. It wasn't the table,I was just fired up trying to beat Larry Aylor and just hit them that hard. The light didn't break that time,but I made SOLID contact with the light housing,enough that everyone in the room heard it and was now watching my match. Oddly enough,he didn't call a foul either. My first 3 pack in a tournament too :cool:. Tommy D.
 
the 3rd post says :" A ball is also considered driven off the table if it would have been driven off the table except for striking an object such as a light fixture, piece of chalk or a player which causes it to return to the table.
the part of a player hitting the ball i think thats a foul. or not?
 
the 3rd post says :" A ball is also considered driven off the table if it would have been driven off the table except for striking an object such as a light fixture, piece of chalk or a player which causes it to return to the table.
the part of a player hitting the ball i think thats a foul. or not?


Yes, it's a foul. The rule is saying that if the ball strikes anything other than the table, it's a foul even if the ball returns to the table playing surface.
 
the 3rd post says :" A ball is also considered driven off the table if it would have been driven off the table except for striking an object such as a light fixture, piece of chalk or a player which causes it to return to the table.
the part of a player hitting the ball i think thats a foul. or not?

Yes, if the ball hits a player and lands back on the playing surface, but the ball would have gone off the table had it not hit the player, it is a foul.

Example. Your opponent is standing a foot away from the table. You hit a shot that somehow sends the cue ball flying off the table. But the cue ball hits your opponent in the forehead and lands back on the playing surface. FOUL.
 
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