g10 as a break tip.....your thoughts please

thanks for the replies
i havent seen the dings in the cue ball so far
and the jumping ability is great
but i will take your the expert advice and consider switching back to a white diamond
 
Was practicing jump shots with a new jumper with a g10 and yes it completely put marks/cracks on my Aramith pro measel.
 
cracks

I think you will find those half moon cracks on all cue balls, whether hit with G10 or not. I believe them to be stress marks and can be made from the cue ball striking the rack. Let the discussion begin!
 
G10 will definitely leave marks or scratches on a ball, due to the fact that G10 has fiberglass in it, which grabs/grips/scratches the surface better, But it isn't any harder than phenolic....which is the same material coating the cue ball, and the object balls. Does it cause cracks? I don't think so, as I haven't seen it do it to mine on my table. I have seen more damage done by sending the cue ball off the table onto a concrete floor repeatedly by people that don't know how to break. Hitting hard objects into other hard objects always has the potential for damage to one or the other as time and time again the same forceful contact happens. Cue balls are cheap and expendable...compared to the money that maybe on the line for that rack you are breaking.
Just my thoughts
Dave
 
I don't do G10 tips any more. I only use G10 for ferrules on jump shafts, usually paired with some sort of phenolic tip.
 
thanks for all the replies
i get the message it can/could chip the cue ball
its not illegal to use
how good a break tip do you think it is ??
 
bbb said:
thanks for all the replies
i get the message it can/could chip the cue ball
its not illegal to use
how good a break tip do you think it is ??
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As with any hard break tip, It will only be as good as the stroke behind it. A good solid, smooth stroke will give a good break. Being as hard as the cue ball means less force will be needed to break the rack, as the tip will not absorb any of the energy, it will transfer it almost 1:1 to the cue ball, depending on the ferrule material and the solidness of the shaft. As far as chipping a cue ball....have seen that happen with a leather tip on a break using a cue ball that was beaten from hitting a concrete floor, but have not seen it with a good condition cue ball, using either a phenolic or G10 tip. I have seen chipped cue balls, but usually these are ones that have seen more action then most of our Veterans have. I personally feel that happens more due to cheap cue balls being purchased by the pool halls to save a buck. I recently had a cue ball at a respected hall locally....during a tourney, seemed weird with rolls....when rolled by hand, it went almost sideways......
A phenolic tip and white diamond, and G10 all rate in the same range of hardness....it's not like g10 is made from such a different material that causes cue balls to explode on contact. It is only a fiberglass resin....phenolic can be harder, depending on the grade, the only difference is the fiberglass will grip the ball more, which will scratch the surface....but not crack it

Dave
 
Dave38 said:
As with any hard break tip, It will only be as good as the stroke behind it. A good solid, smooth stroke will give a good break. Being as hard as the cue ball means less force will be needed to break the rack, as the tip will not absorb any of the energy, it will transfer it almost 1:1 to the cue ball, depending on the ferrule material and the solidness of the shaft. As far as chipping a cue ball....have seen that happen with a leather tip on a break using a cue ball that was beaten from hitting a concrete floor, but have not seen it with a good condition cue ball, using either a phenolic or G10 tip. I have seen chipped cue balls, but usually these are ones that have seen more action then most of our Veterans have. I personally feel that happens more due to cheap cue balls being purchased by the pool halls to save a buck. I recently had a cue ball at a respected hall locally....during a tourney, seemed weird with rolls....when rolled by hand, it went almost sideways......
A phenolic tip and white diamond, and G10 all rate in the same range of hardness....it's not like g10 is made from such a different material that causes cue balls to explode on contact. It is only a fiberglass resin....phenolic can be harder, depending on the grade, the only difference is the fiberglass will grip the ball more, which will scratch the surface....but not crack it

Dave
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thanks dave for your reply
 
My Jump tip is Not G10, as I have seen damage to my own cue ball from G10 break /jump tip. But the damage was from a hard breaker, Not from a jump shot. I'm with Steve, G10 is best left for other sports etc.
There are hard leathers out there , and other great break tips like the White Diamond etc Juan leather break tips are also very good.
 
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