Galveston $1,000,000.00 tournament

Tbeaux said:
The nay sayers seem to want every i dotted and every t crossed and the number to the escrow account but don't seem willing to do the footwork for themselves.
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The naysayers remember the IPT claiming to have the money in escrow "with a national accounting firm" which ended up not being true.

Some people have done the "footwork" and posed their questions on the tournaments website and those questions have not been answered.

The two things I mention above are why I'm pointing out that some people have valid concerns.

I would love to attend this event but cannot due to other commitments. I hope its a huge success and that it becomes a permanent fixture in the pool world so that I may attend for yrs to come and so that there is another great tournament in the pool world. :smile:
 
UrackmIcrackm said:
The naysayers remember the IPT claiming to have the money in escrow "with a national accounting firm" which ended up not being true.

Some people have done the "footwork" and posed their questions on the tournaments website and those questions have not been answered.

The two things I mention above are why I'm pointing out that some people have valid concerns.

I would love to attend this event but cannot due to other commitments. I hope its a huge success and that it becomes a permanent fixture in the pool world so that I may attend for yrs to come and so that there is another great tournament in the pool world. :smile:
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True. However simple math (as in I haven't used a calculator) shows that in a worst case scenario with minimal fields they would not have to put up the full "guaranteed 1 mill". The more players who attend the more it becomes a matter of the players providing the minimum payout to themselves with entries. These people have said 1) they have insured the tournament 2) made the down payment on the tables 3) acquired the venue which is one of the best resorts on the Gulf Coast.
If it's some kind of scam I can't see where they stand to profit by it unless it's the Greater Galveston Tourist Bureau.
 
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Tbeaux said:
If it's some kind of scam I can't see where they stand to profit by it unless it's the Greater Galveston Tourist Bureau.
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I don't think anyone said it was a scam. It can be that the payouts are less than advertised even though they're saying the amount is guaranteed.

lfigueroa said:
Just as a general comment, it's a shame this is the way things are sometimes done. Sorta like selling lotto tickets for an advertised prize of $1M. You win it and are told, "Oh, so sorry -- not enough people bought lotto tickets. Here's $300."
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Since I'm not playing, nor can attend, it doesn't really matter to me and I've said my peace on the matter. I just think life is much better when people work to see both sides of the coin. The only reason I started posting on this subject is because the ones supporting the event were calling the ones with questions, "naysayers" as opposed to trying to see their side.

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jay helfert said:
It is true that I went to school at O.U. (Oklahoma U.) and we have an ongoing rivalry with U.T. (U. of Texas). Texas-O.U. weekend is one of the biggest blasts of the year in this cross border rivalry. Boomer Sooner forever!
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It sure is Jay. And us texans are still "miffed" about OU being ranked higher in BCS standings at the end of last year. :angry::angry: Even though we beat yall :scratchhead: But we will have our revenge one day.
 
JoeyA said:
I think it is possible as long as you meet the criteria of what makes an amateur. Why not do the one pocket too?

Do we have an ID to share at this time? ;)

JoeyA
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No, no ID :p

Im worried becouse the events all share the same start times and run into each other. Im concerned that I might have to forfit a match in one tournament to keep going in another. I just dont want to waste my sponsors money or my time.
 
rbpwrd240 said:
No, no ID :p

Im worried becouse the events all share the same start times and run into each other. Im concerned that I might have to forfit a match in one tournament to keep going in another. I just dont want to waste my sponsors money or my time.
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It looks like you could do either of the amateur events and the 10 ball open.
I agree the two amatuer events are pretty close and depending on how big the field is likely to be they may be running tight together or even overlapping.
 
rbpwrd240 said:
No, no ID :p

Im worried becouse the events all share the same start times and run into each other. Im concerned that I might have to forfit a match in one tournament to keep going in another. I just dont want to waste my sponsors money or my time.
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That's all right, Danny told me who you were. j/k. Well almost. ;)

JoeyA
 
punter said:
I think it has been pointed out to you several times that the promoters' website has a forum, lists several e-mail addresses, and they have said they will address all questions(not to mention the live chat they had.) Just because they haven't done so on this website, you continue to whine about unanswered questions. Here's a suggestion: Stay Home. You can always go next year if this isn't a big con like you seem to feel it maybe.

And as far as Jay H.'s not-so-subtle jabs at this event, it appears to be he is somewhat miffed that they didn't seek him out for his sage advice. Also, he's pretty much on record that he doesn't care for Texans much.
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lol. Well, as of right now, I am staying home, (though I do plan on playing in a 14.1 World Qualifier up in Chicago in a few weeks :-) You know, punter, you reminded me of a dream I had a couple of nights ago, that must of somehow been related to all this. Though I rarely can recall my dreams the next morning, for some reason, this one is still clear as a bell.

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(insert “Wayne’s World” dream sequence music, “Doodely-doo, doodely-doo, doodely-doo”).

Salesman: Hi. Welcome to Best Buy.

Me: (thinking, “Oh my God! It’s Joey in a yellow polo shirt!")
Uh, hello.

Joey: So, how can I help you?

Me: Well, I was thinking about buying a Galveston flat screen TV.

Joey: Umm, well, this isn’t my department -- I think the TV guy is on smoke break or something -- but I’ll be happy to help you.

Me: OK, great. So look, I have about $1500 to spend. What can I get for that?

Joey: Oh my. For that, you can get: THE MOST SPECTACULAR TV OF THE DECADE!!

Me: Really?

Joey: Oh yeah. In fact, I am amazed people aren’t lining up to get a piece of this TV. Everyone should be buying one of these.

Me: They’re that good, huh?

Joey: Are you kidding?! The guys that make these have a great reputation and are really trying to do something for the industry.

Me: Wow. Well, that really sounds cool. Do you mind if I ask a few questions?

Joey: Well, Galveston has a web site, you know.

Me: Right. But I just have a few basic questions before I blow $1500 on this.

Joey: I think they’re going to hold a chat on their web site, coming up real soon.

Me: Well, let me just ask you something real simple. Like, what kind of warranty -- you know, guarantee -- comes with a Galveston TV?

Joey: Why are you being so negative?

Me: I didn’t know I was being negative. I mean, if this is the greatest TV of the decade, and you want to sell a few of these things, I wouldn’t think you’d have a problem answering a few basic questions.

Joey: Naysayer.

Me: I guess finding out how many of these great TVs you’ve sold isn’t going to happen either?

Joey: WHY DON’T YOU JUST GET OFF YOUR LAZY ARSE AND GO TO THEIR WEB SITE?!

Me: OK, OK. Wow. I didn't mean to get you all excited. I guess if I can’t get some answers, I’ll just pass on buying one of these things.

Joey: GO GALVESTON.
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Party on, punter ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
I hate customers that don't listen when I tell them how to get their questions answered and expect me to know everything.
 
TX Poolnut said:
I hate customers that don't listen when I tell them how to get their questions answered and expect me to know everything.
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I hate salespeople who zealously attempt to convince me to buy their product, but can't answer questions about it ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
TX Poolnut said:
Me too.

Have you tried to ask the Tournament Folks questions on their website?
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No.

Have the tournament folks come here -- reputedly the largest, bestest, most read pool web site in the world -- to answer questions and spread the word about their event?

Also and by the way, did you see that according to one poster here, similar questions have gone unanwered on said web site since June? And that another poster here, who registered to ask questions did not recieve the return email required to gain access to said site?

Do you not believe that in many, if not most cases, it is the pool tournament that needs the pool players? IOW, is not the pool player "the customer" in this scenario?

Just as a ferinstance, as an amateur player I do not "need" the pool tournament, particularly one that is a bit on the pricey side to attend. I don't believe this event is any different from any other pool tournament, in that it is the pool tournament that needs the pool players, for them to have a "successful" event. Do you not believe that under any reasonable marketing/business plan it is the promoter that should be seeking out the participants; customers; attendees; pool players; spectators; pool fans; or just anyone with an interest in pool and money in their pocket to spend, anywhere and everywhere? (I think there are a few of those here.)

I guess what I'm trying to say that if for no other reason, than as a matter of principle (and common sense), it seems to me that they should be the ones making a little extra effort. But that's just me :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
Lou.......JoeyA doesn't work at Best Buy OR the Galveston World Classic.

To use your analogy it's more like you are considering buying online from Bestbuy.com but instead of going to their website you go to the guy on an electronics forum who wrote a report about sony's and found the prices at best buy the best. You want him to answer all your questions and doubts or else you want him to not post. Just how much information do you have at this very moment about the 14.1 tournament you do intend to go to hmm ? Cause if it's one of the DP qualifiers I'd really love to hear what the qualifications are for the people who get invites and also why EVERY DP event has DP invites who are DP stable members or personal friends of CW or just happen to have a nice set of tits.:confused:
 
Naysayers..............

Tbeaux said:
Lou.......JoeyA doesn't work at Best Buy OR the Galveston World Classic.

To use your analogy it's more like you are considering buying online from Bestbuy.com but instead of going to their website you go to the guy on an electronics forum who wrote a report about sony's and found the prices at best buy the best. You want him to answer all your questions and doubts or else you want him to not post. Just how much information do you have at this very moment about the 14.1 tournament you do intend to go to hmm ? Cause if it's one of the DP qualifiers I'd really love to hear what the qualifications are for the people who get invites and also why EVERY DP event has DP invites who are DP stable members or personal friends of CW or just happen to have a nice set of tits.:confused:
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You shouldn't have 'splained that to Lou. He's just a naysayer and your logic won't matter to him.

JoeyA
 
I believe they have come to this website and paid for advertising here. They have provided links to a website where you can email questions, comments, concerns, and complaints. I wouldn't take one persons word for it though. You should check it out.

I agree with you that this is the best pool-related website on the web. However, it's not the best one when you're looking for information on the Galveston tournament. That distinction would be held by the Galveston website itself, in my opinion.

I believe that athletes and sports need each other. One cannot exist without the other. Indeed, the player is the customer and the tournament is the business. So why not go to the store, mingle, ask some questions, and maybe even buy something, instead of standing out on the curb and demanding that they bring their wares outside? That strategy doesn't work very well at Best Buy and apparently isn't working here either.

I do believe that under any reasonable marketing/business plan it is the promoter that should be seeking out the participants. I think they have that base covered here as at least one thread about this tournament continues to stay on the first page of the Main Forum. Their promotion seems to be working. The ads are still there. That said, I don't pretend to be an expert at advertising or promotion. Their trying to lead us horses to the water. C'mon Lou. Let's go mingle. :smile:

I agree also that they should be making lots of effort to get this tournament out in the public's view. I don't know why they haven't come here and starting a chat about their tournament. Maybe they're of the opinion that we will succumb to our curiosity and go to their website for answers.

Best Regards, Todd
 
Tbeaux said:
Lou.......JoeyA doesn't work at Best Buy OR the Galveston World Classic.

To use your analogy it's more like you are considering buying online from Bestbuy.com but instead of going to their website you go to the guy on an electronics forum who wrote a report about sony's and found the prices at best buy the best. You want him to answer all your questions and doubts or else you want him to not post. Just how much information do you have at this very moment about the 14.1 tournament you do intend to go to hmm ? Cause if it's one of the DP qualifiers I'd really love to hear what the qualifications are for the people who get invites and also why EVERY DP event has DP invites who are DP stable members or personal friends of CW or just happen to have a nice set of tits.:confused:
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Hey! Learn to read. It was my *dream* not an analogy. Can't help the way it came out ;-)

And about the event in Chicago: THAT is being run by my very good friend, Monsignor John Lavin, at his room, Red Shoes. And that is all I need to know about that :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
JoeyA said:
You shouldn't have 'splained that to Lou. He's just a naysayer and your logic won't matter to him.

JoeyA
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Hey, Cosel! Is this all you can do now -- name calling and false accusations -- instead of actually participating in the discussion?

Lou Figueroa
noticed Joey has ignored
several relevant posts :-)
 
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TX Poolnut said:
I believe they have come to this website and paid for advertising here. They have provided links to a website where you can email questions, comments, concerns, and complaints. I wouldn't take one persons word for it though. You should check it out.

I agree with you that this is the best pool-related website on the web. However, it's not the best one when you're looking for information on the Galveston tournament. That distinction would be held by the Galveston website itself, in my opinion.

I believe that athletes and sports need each other. One cannot exist without the other. Indeed, the player is the customer and the tournament is the business. So why not go to the store, mingle, ask some questions, and maybe even buy something, instead of standing out on the curb and demanding that they bring their wares outside? That strategy doesn't work very well at Best Buy and apparently isn't working here either.

I do believe that under any reasonable marketing/business plan it is the promoter that should be seeking out the participants. I think they have that base covered here as at least one thread about this tournament continues to stay on the first page of the Main Forum. Their promotion seems to be working. The ads are still there. That said, I don't pretend to be an expert at advertising or promotion. Their trying to lead us horses to the water. C'mon Lou. Let's go mingle. :smile:

I agree also that they should be making lots of effort to get this tournament out in the public's view. I don't know why they haven't come here and starting a chat about their tournament. Maybe they're of the opinion that we will succumb to our curiosity and go to their website for answers.

Best Regards, Todd
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So just one udder question: I've already said that I'm not going and don't need the event, but do wish it well and hope all that go have a great time.

But now what about all the folks in this thread, like you, that seem to be ardent supports of the event? Why, if you want it to succeed so,and consider going to their web site no big deal, why don't *you* go and ask the questions posted in this thread and come and report back? (By the way, if you're going to do that, let me know. I can easily come up with a half dozen more :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
No matter what, Lou makes this thread funny, and bumping it all the time. Even though I have to agree with those who tell him that it ain't that hard to just go visit another website for the information :)

The "dream" about JoeyA cracked me up, but that's because I love it when someone pokes at Joey :D

In Joey's defence, he is doing absolutely nothing wrong, and he is not a "spokesman" for this event. He is simply a fan and a player (or at least, thinks he is a player) who just wants this event to be as big as possible.

I would probably do the same as Joey, if I decided to go for the event, I would try to encourage as many as possible to go.

Pool needs these big events, and as Jay said, there aren't too many of them anymore...

I've got the answers I was interested in, thanks to people responding to this thread. The people here don't have all the answers, so if you are looking for more, just visit www.theworldclassic.com and give it a shot :)

Btw, I am interested in if the money is put in escrow. Not that it really matter for me, because the top pros obviously doesn't seem to care about being paid immidiately, so why should I care for them? (IPT, US Open winners get paid late, World Ten Ball where no one complained still after 1 month with no payment)
 
lfigueroa said:
So just one udder question: I've already said that I'm not going and don't need the event, but do wish it well and hope all that go have a great time.

But now what about all the folks in this thread, like you, that seem to be ardent supports of the event? Why, if you want it to succeed so,and consider going to their web site no big deal, why don't *you* go and ask the questions posted in this thread and come and report back? (By the way, if you're going to do that, let me know. I can easily come up with a half dozen more :-)

Lou Figueroa
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I've already taken the initiative to do my own homework. :smile:
 
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