Stay out of it.
Your money was not involved, so ultimately it is none of your business.
Your money was not involved, so ultimately it is none of your business.
Not at all!So I'm not a gambler, probably never will, but am I to understand that if you gamble you have to be willing to be held hostage by a losing player (if you win) until he's ready to give up, or be considered an ass because you actually won some money??
ok, so sounds like the main mistake this guy made was not setting a time to quit and then sticking to it?Not at all!
Most tell people how long they can play! That is standard practice! Often time people set a cut off time. On occasion person gets a emergency phone call or situation and notified the opponent.
But it is poor practice to say I can stay till 11PM get a head 4 games and then renege 2 hours earlier than the cut off time and sit around the pool room sipping mint julips!
Basically that is the scenario!
Pretty messed up!
Kd
I'm relieved to see at least one person here agrees with me as to what a tool this guy was. Not that he quit, but what he did after he quit.Not at all!
Most tell people how long they can play! That is standard practice! Often time people set a cut off time. On occasion person gets a emergency phone call or situation and notified the opponent.
But it is poor practice to say I can stay till 11PM get a head 4 games and then renege 2 hours earlier than the cut off time and sit around the pool room sipping mint julips!
Basically that is the scenario!
Pretty messed up!
Kd
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Bottom line is that if you believe in quit any time then tell your opponent that is how it is!If player B was upset that player A quit while ahead...I'd say that player B needs to grow up and become a man. This stupid idea that a player has to stay around and give the loser a chance to win his money back, is what kids do, not men. I've had many people quit on me while they were ahead. I've never had a problem with that, because what that guy does is his business, not mine. It amazes me how childish a grown up man (supposedly grown up) can be. So, if you're down $80.00 and he quits, just win next time. If you don't win, then adjust the bet. But goodnight, if you think the other guy has to give you a chance to win your money back, start making the decision to grow up!
Player A didn't just quit. He informed his friend he was not going to take him down for $100. He did this when he was up $60. Who knows why, maybe he knows the financial limits of his friend.
Anyway, he said it was the last set before it was played and only the last set if he won.
This according to the OP.
Believe me, the financial well being of his opponent was the last thing on his mind. He had lost $75 in his tournament entry fee and his calcutta purchases for himself and a few other players - all of which got knocked out early. As soon as he'd virtually won back his night's losses, he was satisfied.Player A didn't just quit. He informed his friend he was not going to take him down for $100. He did this when he was up $60. Who knows why, maybe he knows the financial limits of his friend.
Anyway, he said it was the last set before it was played and only the last set if he won.
This according to the OP.
Much different scenario When notified it was the last set. Win lose or draw!
Kd
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...Clearly, some of you who have responded to this thread don't have any problem with his actions. I see it very differently.
Two of our top players got knocked out of our weekly 9-ball tourney early last night, so they decided to match up and play some $20 sets. Both players, in their 30s, have played in our room as well as other poolrooms and tournaments for 20+ years and are among our top players. Player B has far more gambling experience than player A, but player A still has been around long enough that he should know what is acceptable in terms of gambling protocols. Neither of them are big gamblers, but they enjoy placing something $$ on their sets.
Player A got 3 sets ($60) up on player B, then player A informed player B his limit was $80 and he was planning to quit if he got to $80. The next set went hill-hill and player A won, and then quit. Player B still wanted to play more sets, but player A refused.
Then player A informed player B they could keep playing, just for fun, and player B refused, saying that was out of the question, and that he would never be playing him again. Player A then sat and observed tournament matches for another hour or more, before leaving. If he had made it to the finals of the tourney, which he often does, he would have been there up to 2 more hours.
I am the tournament director, as well as the proprietor and owner of the poolroom.
Both of these players are regular customers, and I consider both of them as friends of mine for many years. When player B told me what transpired, I was very angry.
I understand that what transpires between 2 players gambling is their business, so I am contemplating whether I should choose to stay completely out of it, or when I get the chance, to have a private conversation with player A, explaining to him that what he did was not acceptable, that player B had valid reason to be very angry, and explain to him exactly why, in hopes that he would learn from his mistake and not think he could do this again.
Just curious what others here think about this situation and as to what I, as Proprietor, as well as being a friend of both players should do, if anything?
"...player A informed player B his limit was $80 and he was planning to quit if he got to $80.
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