Gandy pool que I’m trying to find more information on.
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When you say that the linen wrap was" smooth to the touch" my guess is that you are experiencing what is called a "coated" linen wrap- meaning that the wrap has a coating of polyurethane sprayed over it. This was also common with early Meucci cues. When a linen wrap has no coating on it that is called an exposed linen wrap.
First off thank you for the reply. I want to further explain the linen. Yes it is the smoothest of all my pool ques. Also I do feel a difference between the wood and linen. The linen touch is there but extremely subtle. You can also see a slight glare switching from the wood to the linen. Again thank you for your input.
Linen can be pressed/finished as to feel really slick. You can starch and press it to where you can't even feel the threads.
Yes this could just be one of those super slick exposed linen wraps as well- you would certainly feel a coating over the wrap if it were coated.
Usually it's called double-pressed linen and sometimes there is a wax or something used on the fibers. My Ned Morris cue had a wrap that was smoother than any other linen wrap I played with. The Gandy cues were a bit on the lower end of the cues but nothing a player would not use for the cost. Nothing special, nothing bad.
It looks old and cool to me.
Looks like one of the Gandy's made by Viking, probably 1970's. This model is not in the first Gandy catalog.
Here's a thread that explains a little more:
Here's a thread that explains a little more:
Gandy Cue Information
I received an e-mail from a gentleman referred to me by Brad Simpson, asking if Palmer made cues for Gandy. Here is a link to his hosted pics of the cue: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdva_ent/sets/72157612123079591/ This is a three point...
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Gordon Hart the owner of Viking once told me he used to sell all kinds parts to other cuemakers. He said they used to have a catalog of cue parts they sold. I wish one of those catalogs had survived. I think most Gandy cues were made in Georgia using Viking parts.
Just catching up on old posts.
I have more of these since I posted in the link in post #8, focusing on the earlier bumperless cues but will not pass up the later ones like this one. I think the one posted at the top of this thread is as late as the 1980's by the parts and construction.
Still looking for catalogs other than the one we have seen, as well as any information on National cues, and the change from National to Gandy.
I have several early variants that are not in the known catalog, including different weight bolts and butt caps.
These are pics of an early RG-1000 bumperless I have that I have. I have others, that is the only one I have that is jet black. It's in darn near perfect condition, finish intact, so I am not sure what the material is. Ebony? Dyed wood? Plastic/polymer?
Here is an interesting different weight bolt and butt cap on an HC-145. I do not have this one.
I have more of these since I posted in the link in post #8, focusing on the earlier bumperless cues but will not pass up the later ones like this one. I think the one posted at the top of this thread is as late as the 1980's by the parts and construction.
Still looking for catalogs other than the one we have seen, as well as any information on National cues, and the change from National to Gandy.
I have several early variants that are not in the known catalog, including different weight bolts and butt caps.
These are pics of an early RG-1000 bumperless I have that I have. I have others, that is the only one I have that is jet black. It's in darn near perfect condition, finish intact, so I am not sure what the material is. Ebony? Dyed wood? Plastic/polymer?
Here is an interesting different weight bolt and butt cap on an HC-145. I do not have this one.
Nice looking cue. Nice taper. Adam bumper. Rebrand?
Toky. Is that what they call the city?
Here is an interesting question.
It's a Mali bumper, and the joint rings are Mali, and the stainless joint collar too, and I think the pin, 1980's, maybe very late 70's.
So the plot thickens. Adam? No.
I think 70s Adams had that button bumper. Also I somehow have this recollection of Malis having a large diameter dome. Getting old.
Respectfully, I disagree.
I can show you pristine original Mali examples I own if you like. This cue could have walked out of a Mali catalog, but it didn't, I have the catalogs.
This memory is of a 70s or 80s new Mali line probably from B Digest or one of the other mags. The first cue I bought was an Adam Rubber Duck. 57", mahogany ish handle, 14mm tip, and the button bumper. I remember it always fell out. I might have eventually lost it. Lost the whole cue in a game anyway.
Those were the big wide bumpers. I made a lengthy study of bumpers. I posted about it years ago, but only a small part of it.
Since Mali ended, and Viking lost their records when they closed and reopened, there are substantial gaps.
Adam was and is huge. Lots of their cues were rebranded, and they themselves seem to have had a number of brands. It's a continuous jobs to track those.
Which ones were on the Adams 'cause I'll sign an affidavit - blame the Mandela effect. lol...
No worries. Which ones were Adam? I am not sure how to answer that, but I can show you Mali that have identical parts to this cue.
This is a Mali from about 1980, with the bumper and butt cap we see in the OP.
This is an earlier 1970's Mali with the slightly more rounded bumper and different butt cap material and profile.
Another Mali, about 1980.
Mali, about 1980.
I am looking for my Adam bumper pictures. I am sure I have both the pill bumper and mushroom bumper pictures.
The Mali on the left looks about right. Any pics of early 70s Adams? The Gandy's bumper in the OP is recessed and looks smaller like the Adams I remember.
As I said I am looking for them. It's going to take some time for me to reconstruct all my files.