Gareth Potts vs SVB.. who wins?

sjm said:
Shane vs. Miguel Cabrera

In the 10-ball I like Shane
Home run hitting contest I like Cabrera
... guess it'll come down to the horseshoes competition.

When you cross disciplines, the comparisons are borderline pointless. Shane and Potts get their props in the game's to which they have truly dedicated themselves, and let's leave it at that.
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Except Potts dedicated himself to English 8 ball, with a 1.75" CB, and has now switched to Chinese pool, which has a 2.25" CB. It is astonishing how quickly he has adapted to the bigger balls/table, and there is no reason to suggest American 8 ball is going to be any more difficult for him to master.

The break is the only thing that can save your boy Van Boening. Even then, Potts will figure it out sooner or later.
 
peteypooldude said:
He's not in SVB.s league . It's a tournament player vs a stone cold take the world on ... Champion. Fundamentals will break down when the heat is on.
To rank him with SVB is wrong. Shane has earned his by playing anybody that will step up and you can film it
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Potts is a multiple world champion. SVB, er, isn't.

Potts has far more solid fundamentals than SVB. His fundamentals aren't breaking down.

Potts doesn't dog easy balls, pressure or no pressure. SVB dogs lots.

Did you watch the video linked in the OP? When SVB can play like that, you may come back to me.
 
Next thing you know they'll have Dale Earnhardt Jr winning F1 World championship in his Chevy, laughable.
 
j_zippel said:
If they were to do an all around, including chinese 8 ball, 10 ball, 1 pocket and straight pool.
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In those games? Obviously SVB is a huge favorite.

Has Gareth Potts ever played 1-pocket in his entire life? Has he played all that much 10-ball?

You picked 2 games SVB is a champion in and the overwhelmning favorite, one of which I would not doubt Gareth has never even played.

In straight pool on a "pool" table I would guess SVB has more experience and is a favorite as well.

Gareth IS the favorite in Chinese 8-ball, but SVB HAS competed in that game and is not a fish out of wter like Gareth is in 1-pocket.

This choice of games is akin to asking who would win if they played Chinese 8-ball, English 8-ball, Snooker, and 9-ball. Who is the favorite then?
 
TheThaiger said:
Potts is a multiple world champion. SVB, er, isn't.

Potts has far more solid fundamentals than SVB. His fundamentals aren't breaking down.

Potts doesn't dog easy balls, pressure or no pressure. SVB dogs lots.

Did you watch the video linked in the OP? When SVB can play like that, you may come back to me.
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So, Potts is another one trick pony out of England.
 
gxman said:
so does Wikipedia have the rules for Chinese 8ball wrong? I'm reading you must strike the object ball into the cue ball??
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That is wrong, that is "not" Chinese 8-ball, that is Chinese Billiards that Wikipedia addition is talking about.

That is the problem with Wikipedia, people can add stuff to it, even if they are wrong.
 
Celtic said:
If the trick is

"winning major world championships with top tier international fields"

then yes, another Euro 1-trick pony.
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In 8 ball/English 8 ball/Chinese 8 Ball (whatever that is). When other games were mentioned (that didn't include 8 ball), the fan club got offended.

I do respect the world title but I don't hold it against Shane. He's still the man to beat.
 
chevybob20 said:
In 8 ball/English 8 ball/Chinese 8 Ball (whatever that is). When other games were mentioned (that didn't include 8 ball), the fan club got offended.

I do respect the world title but I don't hold it against Shane. He's still the man to beat.
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BS. This thread was no different then people in England saying "who would win if SVB played Ronnie O'Sullivan in snooker, English 8-ball, Chinese 8-ball, and 9-ball" and then answers flew of "SVB would have no chance, he would get slaughtered, Ronnie is the best!"

The whole thing was hedged in SVB's favor from the start with the games chosen just as the above case would be.

You want a real test, alternate 10 games of Chinese 8-ball and then 10 games of American bar bar box 8-ball and do that until one player wins 50 games total.

Then you are playing two games both have experience playing, both games which one is a favorite over the other but that both understand and can both play, and we can actually see a pretty even battle between the two guys, each in a game they are the supposed masters.
 
Slasher said:
chevybob20 said:
So, Potts is another one trick pony out of England.
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I would say all Americans are one trick ponies, they can only play on American equipment, they have never won on anything else.
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Furthermore; only in America, only with American supporters, only with American food inside them, only in a certain timezone, only with the precise number of racks played (usually somewhere between 60-1000, depending on who's playing and how much sleep he needs), where they're playing, what game is it and how much money there may or may not be involved.

THEN the world had betta watch out! :rolleyes:
 
chevybob20 said:
So, Potts is another one trick pony out of England.
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Another? :confused:

I would think Potts is about as far from a one-trick pony as you could get. Not only is he the master of all codes of English 8 ball, he is the best in the world at Chinese 8 ball. The two games are vastly different, which your boy Van Boening found to his cost after the recent World Masters in England, when he was hammered by pub players. Potts will not be hammered by pub players in any game you care to mention, on any table, under any conditions.


SVB, on the other hand, is a the very epitome of a one-trick pony - the man can break, that is it. So far his record suggests he is nothing but a flat track bully. That will only change when and if he wins a world title.

A world championship in breaking, on American soil, sounds perfect. It's a lock for Van Boening.
 
TheThaiger said:
Furthermore; only in America, only with American supporters, only with American food inside them, only in a certain timezone, only with the precise number of racks played (usually somewhere between 60-1000, depending on who's playing and how much sleep he needs), where they're playing, what game is it and how much money there may or may not be involved.

THEN the world had betta watch out! :rolleyes:
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That is funny :)
 
Shane - Looks and acts like a man, plays like a man, not a girl (Potts)
Shane - Give him some actual practice time playing snooker 8ball, Shane will dominate, the only reason he would lose is because he is not used to the table....., it would not take long for him to catch on to the strategy and dominate that discipline, in any countrys style of play....

Potts plays like a twinkle toes girl in my opinion..........
 
pletho said:
Shane - Looks and acts like a man, plays like a man, not a girl (Potts)
Shane - Give him some actual practice time playing snooker 8ball, Shane will dominate, the only reason he would lose is because he is not used to the table....., it would not take long for him to catch on to the strategy and dominate that discipline, in any countrys style of play....

Potts plays like a twinkle toes girl in my opinion..........
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Just a shame he did not man up at the MC or at the Chinese 8 ball.

Potts seems to be man enough to be a multiple World champion.
 
Swighey said:
Clearly SVB would cane Potts in the OP's challenge. Hardly fair at all. Now a race to, say, 50 switching between English 8 ball and "US" 8 ball every five racks - that could be interesting. My money would be on Potts to win fairly easily. But it's still fairly meaningless.

I'd rather see Potts make a go of it though and play real 8 ball, 9 ball, 10 ball etc rather than snooker-pool. Then we'd see how good he is. Unless English pool gets a Barry Hearn-esque boost and goes through the roof prize money wise then it's never going to be taken seriously enough. I

Of course SVB is going to win the other three suggested variants every time. Just like Potts would cane SVB at snooker.
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This, exactly this.

There is no way Potts would beat Van Boening in 10ball, 9ball or 1pocket.

Similarly there is no way Van Boening would beat Potts in English or Chinese 8ball, not to mention snooker.

Now American 8ball would be an interesting game, falling quite easily for VB however, I'd say.

pletho said:
Shane - Looks and acts like a man, plays like a man, not a girl (Potts)
Shane - Give him some actual practice time playing snooker 8ball, Shane will dominate, the only reason he would lose is because he is not used to the table....., it would not take long for him to catch on to the strategy and dominate that discipline, in any countrys style of play....

Potts plays like a twinkle toes girl in my opinion..........
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Your mother.
 
pletho said:
Shane - Give him some actual practice time playing snooker 8ball, Shane will dominate,
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That is such a retarded statement. Sorry but I am not sugar coating it for you, it is dumb as hell.

In 2013 Ronnie O'Sullivan won the World Snooker Championships and he won £250,000. That is $418,150 US.

In 2013 SVB won $153,400 in ALL of his tournament winnings combined.

Ronnie won more then twice as much in a single event then SVB has EVER won in an entire year.

If SVB had ANY chance of being competitive on the professional snooker tour he would do it. There is more money in that game then he can ever dream of winning in pool.

SVB cannot compete on the professional snooker circuit no matter what he does, most of us know this to be true, he knows this to be true, but a few oblivious people on AZB keep trying to state that SVB could become world class in snooker if only he practiced the game. BS, no freaking chance, he can NEVER become world class at snooker at this point, he knows this and that is why he is not bothering to try. There is MILLIONS of dollars there waiting for him if he could.
 
You guys on the other side of the pond keep bringing up 8 ball and variations of it. If 8 ball is the only game in his wheelhouse then stand proud behind your man. Just don't shoot the messenger when the facts are pointed out.

Anyway, a contest between these two would be great. I'd buy the stream. I'd like to see it played in England too. The audience would be larger so hopefully a larger payout. I believe if it was up to us on this forum, a game would be made, but it's not. One can only hope.
 
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