Gathering the balls after the game

smoooothstroke said:
The racker gets the 2 bottom corners and usually one side pocket but not always.If I am breaking I will keep rounding up balls until they are all close enough to the spot to be easily reached.

The worst one is when the breaker runs over and grabs the balls out of the bottom corner pocket that you are approaching from and then leaves the rest for you.Also firing the balls so hard toward the footrail that they rebound all over the table.Tossing the balls so they bounce and hop towards the racker or firing the CB around the table while you rack.:smile:
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This reminds me-often the racker will lay his cue down next to/under the side rail that he has just cleaned out. That leaves most of the table available for the remainder of the balls to be rolled to the racking end of the table without dinging up the cue stick.

Courtesy and common sense suggest using this method.

But-keep an eye peeled for the warp speed delivery of your helpful opponent.

Once the high speed random chain reaction of multiple balls starts-that cue stick clearcoat is in jeopardy.

Since I'm not breaking-probably better to set the cue stick aside while racking. And run the risk of having it knocked over while not watching it like a hawk.

...it's always somethin':confused:..at least they're not bowling balls
 
Lock N Load said:
PaulieB,
I am like you in this matter. The winner won the game. If loser racks then that is really his job. I send the end balls down to him/her most times but it is not a requirement. If I lose a game I gather all the balls up with no problem. And rack them. Never even think about it either. There are things that go with winning the game, if loser racks that is just what that means. If I rack my on if I win I get the balls and rack them. I don't make problems where there should not be any problems!

Win and you do not have to worry about racking the balls.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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I admire your attitude Lock but what about time?It just seams to go smoooother if both players are involved in the match.
 
smoooothstroke said:
I admire your attitude Lock but what about time?It just seams to go smoooother if both players are involved in the match.
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Both players are involved in the match. One as the winner and one as the loser. No need to make a mountain out of a mole hill! I never let anything worry me in a match except winning. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
It all comes down to common courtesy and manners. If the other player goes to one side of the table I go to the other whether I am breaking or racking. I do play with a friend who has some difficulty with his legs and I make sure to get the balls from every pocket as necessary for him as I'd do for anyone in a similar situation.
 
Lock N Load said:
PaulieB,
I am like you in this matter. The winner won the game. If loser racks then that is really his job. I send the end balls down to him/her most times but it is not a requirement. If I lose a game I gather all the balls up with no problem. And rack them. Never even think about it either. There are things that go with winning the game, if loser racks that is just what that means. If I rack my on if I win I get the balls and rack them. I don't make problems where there should not be any problems!

Win and you do not have to worry about racking the balls.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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Time is money. Especially when you are paying for table time. The losers job is to rack. Racking and retrieving are two separate things.
 
I've gotten my ass kicked so badly before that when I finally won a rack I just forget what to do next for a bit.

This has been misinterpreted as bad behavior when in fact I'm just out of synch with the new and strange situation that just faced me.

JC
 
3RAILKICK said:
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This reminds me-often the racker will lay his cue down next to/under the side rail that he has just cleaned out. That leaves most of the table available for the remainder of the balls to be rolled to the racking end of the table without dinging up the cue stick.

Courtesy and common sense suggest using this method.

But-keep an eye peeled for the warp speed delivery of your helpful opponent.

Once the high speed random chain reaction of multiple balls starts-that cue stick clearcoat is in jeopardy.

Since I'm not breaking-probably better to set the cue stick aside while racking. And run the risk of having it knocked over while not watching it like a hawk.

...it's always somethin':confused:..at least they're not bowling balls
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I agree with the concern about the cue. If my opponent is of that sort, I will certainly keep it clear of the table. Fortunately I haven't run into that issue.

On the other hand, I often utilize the cue-on-the-table method as a means of keeping some players from firing away the moment I pick up the rack, not even letting me step away from the table. I really get annoyed with that. I'd kinda like to go sit down before the balls start flying. With the cue on the table, I can put the rack away, then step over to the side of the table, pick up my cue and back away...usually the quick-breaker gets the message.
 
I see quite a bit of the cue on the table rack as well.


For some reason , seeing the butt on the rail, tip on the felt version seems to drive me nuts.

Which I prefer though to the cue standing, leaning precarious on the minor indentation of the cornerpocket/rail seam.
 
Please dont take offense but:

Lock n Load, Road hustler and PaulieB

You may or may not realize that you may be the kind of folks that

3Railkick, rrfireblade, mahna, meucciman79, calcwby4you, kmrunout, luxury, dogsplayingpool, wvroadplayer, lalouie, celophanewrap, smoothstroke, quesports and I

Are talking about; this may be conscious or unconscious. What we are talking about is a minor issue it is an issue of manners, courtesy, respect, common sense and efficiency. To well over ½ the people on earth these qualities are very important; to a smaller number of people they are not. This is not to say that these are “bad people” in fact they may be perfectly innocent and really “nice people” and just completely unaware that they are being “rude”.

I must admit that on more than one occasion (especially in my 20’s) that I was “unintentionally rude”. If you are one of those people that say “eh why worry about just do whatever” you are in a smaller group that annoys the larger group. I have many friends and I mean good friends that I play pool with that lack these qualities. That doesn’t mean I don’t play pool with them nor does it make me think that they are “bad people” they are simply not as courteous, respectful, mindful of others, efficient and do not have as much common sense as I do. And a couple of them are too young or have ADD mental issues that I readily accept about them.

There isn’t a pool player here that has not forgotten to get the balls out of the pockets and send them to the racker if they are the breaker EVERYONE has been guilty of having their head up their ass at one point or another during a match or friendly play and I mean that is EVERYONE.

But being courteous takes some effort and there are plenty of people that “just don’t care if others perceive them as discourteous or not” that is also fine and as I said that doesn’t make you a bad person it just means that you have less of one or more of the following characteristics manners, courtesy, respect, common sense and efficiency than most people have and to most people (more than 50%) these ARE important qualities.
 
PGHteacher said:
Lock n Load, Road hustler and PaulieB

You may or may not realize that you may be the kind of folks that

3Railkick, rrfireblade, mahna, meucciman79, calcwby4you, kmrunout, luxury, dogsplayingpool, wvroadplayer, lalouie, celophanewrap, smoothstroke, quesports and I

Are talking about; this may be conscious or unconscious. What we are talking about is a minor issue it is an issue of manners, courtesy, respect, common sense and efficiency. To well over ½ the people on earth these qualities are very important; to a smaller number of people they are not. This is not to say that these are “bad people” in fact they may be perfectly innocent and really “nice people” and just completely unaware that they are being “rude”.

I must admit that on more than one occasion (especially in my 20’s) that I was “unintentionally rude”. If you are one of those people that say “eh why worry about just do whatever” you are in a smaller group that annoys the larger group. I have many friends and I mean good friends that I play pool with that lack these qualities. That doesn’t mean I don’t play pool with them nor does it make me think that they are “bad people” they are simply not as courteous, respectful, mindful of others, efficient and do not have as much common sense as I do. And a couple of them are too young or have ADD mental issues that I readily accept about them.

There isn’t a pool player here that has not forgotten to get the balls out of the pockets and send them to the racker if they are the breaker EVERYONE has been guilty of having their head up their ass at one point or another during a match or friendly play and I mean that is EVERYONE.

But being courteous takes some effort and there are plenty of people that “just don’t care if others perceive them as discourteous or not” that is also fine and as I said that doesn’t make you a bad person it just means that you have less of one or more of the following characteristics manners, courtesy, respect, common sense and efficiency than most people have and to most people (more than 50%) these ARE important qualities.
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Now I wonder what some do when they scratch the CB. Do you leave it in the hole or fish it out for the opponent?
 
RRfireblade said:
Now I wonder what some do when they scratch the CB. Do you leave it in the hole or fish it out for the opponent?
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Definitely fish it out if it's near me. Otherwise it's whomever happens to be closer to the pocket. I don't care for it when players fish out their own CB and roll it toward you carelessly, making you catch it before it hits an object ball. Again, it's a common courtesy.

I suppose if it's a non-barbox return table then you have to get it yourself.
 
I roll the balls down that are left on the table on my side of it or on my way back to my side... if they are in drop pockets that I grab the ones on my side of the table... im not fetching every ball.
 
RRfireblade said:
Now I wonder what some do when they scratch the CB. Do you leave it in the hole or fish it out for the opponent?
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I take it out for my opponent 99.99% of the time (if I get to it sometimes my opponent will get to it before I do but I am always "on my way" to get it out for them no matter what; it's just "the way I roll"), about once every other year my opponent will be standing right in front of the pocket where I scratched and so I will just point to the pocket with my stick and say "side" or "corner right" but I am still "on my way" to the pocket to get it out for them.
 
Luxury said:
Time is money. Especially when you are paying for table time. The losers job is to rack. Racking and retrieving are two separate things.
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They are two separate things, but try one without the other! They go hand in hand. If you lose you have to rack most times, and you have to have something to rack, balls. If you stand there and don't get the balls out of the pocket time is still rolling on including table time. Just saying.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Lock N Load said:
They are two separate things, but try one without the other!
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I have tried one without the other with people that don’t get the balls for me it sends them the message real quick, I have just racked up say 11 or 12 balls. It makes the whole rest of the day or night go much faster. I only do this to my friends though, never with strangers in a match.

Lock N Load said:
They go hand in hand. If you lose you have to rack most times, and you have to have something to rack, balls.
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And the most courteous, respectful, mindful, common sense and efficient thing to do is help the racker to gather them.

Lock N Load said:
If you stand there and don't get the balls out of the pocket time is still rolling on including table time. Just saying.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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And time is rolling for both of you, match time, table time or whatever time; the most efficient way of doing it is to spend more time playing and less time standing there.
 
Sport/game etiquette

Here's the reason I started this thread:

I am just starting to play golf-the grassy pasture type of golf.

I find that I have to learn a lot of stuff. How to hit the f'n ball and how to act. Especially since I play badly, I am having to learn a lot about both courtesy, time efficiencies and etiquette of the game.

You know-'drop me off here, I'll take enough clubs to get to the green-see you there',be ready to hit when it's your shot/putt,replace/repair divots, don't talk or move while the other guy is hitting/putting....all that kind of stuff. These things are not second nature to me. Golf buddies are schooling me on this stuff.

So....that's why I ask the pool-related question about racking courtesy/convention-to see if there's more than one opinion about what/how this is usually done.

Just a question-not a condemnation.

In pool, I have done a lot of racking. Because like in golf, hitting the f'n ball where I want seldom happens.
 
3RAILKICK said:
Here's the reason I started this thread:

I am just starting to play golf-the grassy pasture type of golf.

I find that I have to learn a lot of stuff. How to hit the f'n ball and how to act. Especially since I play badly, I am having to learn a lot about both courtesy, time efficiencies and etiquette of the game.

You know-'drop me off here, I'll take enough clubs to get to the green-see you there',be ready to hit when it's your shot/putt,replace/repair divots, don't talk or move while the other guy is hitting/putting....all that kind of stuff. These things are not second nature to me. Golf buddies are schooling me on this stuff.

So....that's why I ask the pool-related question about racking courtesy/convention-to see if there's more than one opinion about what/how this is usually done.

Just a question-not a condemnation.

In pool, I have done a lot of racking. Because like in golf, hitting the f'n ball where I want seldom happens.
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IMO there's a ton more common courtesies to learn in golf than in pool. Golfers that don't know them or don't pay attention eat so much time and distract their group, it can be maddening.

But regardless of playing pool, golf or whatever, I think the more experienced person should promote betterment of the game and diplomatically point out these common courtesies to the less experienced. In event the courtesy points are not taken, kick him in the nuggets and never play him again. ;)

I'm one of the common courtesy guys to an EXTENT (I'm not overly anal aggressive @ it). People that refuse to "get it", I may choose not to play again. I'm in it for the fun, challenge and camaraderie - not to be aggravated.

To the OP - yes, it helps for the breaker to roll the balls gently down the sides of the table in a timely manner (and roll the one gently down the middle in rotation games). If the racker grabs a side pocket, great, if not, breaker should get 4 pockets. JMHO
 
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