GCIV Update

lakeman77 said:
If you play league/tournaments on Diamond tables, stick with Diamonds. Forget balls on the break, pro players make a ball about 50% of the time, the rest of us 5%-35%. So your opponent has the advantage most of the time after you break. Play second ball break or the cut break like the Chinese 8 ball players and bring the CB back up to the end rail.
The idea is to play defense on the break. Forget spreading 'em out and giving your opponent a clear open table.
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God no! Safe break, yuk. I'd kick you out of the tournament for doing that if I was your TD. Does nothing but make games and tournaments take forever.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
FYI here,
Remember how I always complained about how I rarely ever got a decent spread after the 9B break on my GCIV? And how that sort of prompted me to go and purchase the new Diamond Professional?

For the first time in a few months I went downstairs and broke some racks of 9B on the Gold Crown IV today. After 17 break shots with not one chance of running out due to impossible spreads I just gave up. Just quit. Shut the lights out and came back upstairs.

Suddenly that Gold Crown VII is starting to seem more appealing.

r/DCP
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Bad news. It ain't the table!
 
lakeman77 said:
If you play league/tournaments on Diamond tables, stick with Diamonds. Forget balls on the break, pro players make a ball about 50% of the time, the rest of us 5%-35%. So your opponent has the advantage most of the time after you break. Play second ball break or the cut break like the Chinese 8 ball players and bring the CB back up to the end rail.
The idea is to play defense on the break. Forget spreading 'em out and giving your opponent a clear open table.
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He's playing 9 ball, a second ball break would be a foul unless the racker doesn't know how to rack.
 
fastone371 said:
So you are saying after 17 breaks you had no look at the next ball after the break?? I find that beyond hard to believe. I suppose we have to take your word for it because you refuse to post a video to potentially work out the issue. I wonder how the rest of the world ever played rotation on the earlier GC's when never having a look at a ball after the break.
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I don't think it's just the first ball. I think he wants a table that will set up more like this after the break:

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DrCue'sProtege said:
I think it might be.

I do not have the same problem on the Diamond Professional.

I believe I am going to have a very experienced table mechanic come over in October and take a look at the GCIV. Hopefully he will see something that might make things better.
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What in the world on a pool table could cause you to not be able to run out?

I've seen people roll a cue ball down the rail and see how a table rolls (far to one side or the other) and adjust. You're just not a player and refuse to adjust to situations, give up when things don't 100% go your way, and think that $$$ buys you a game.
 
Sooner32 said:
I'm in north central Oklahoma. My little building where I have my table is around 500-550 square feet. I have a mini-split and a dehumidifier in there. I am having to empty the dehu once every 12 hours trying to keep humidity @50% or lower. It's ridiculous. Humid in a drought, and it's over 100° every day.
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It's been ridiculous in the Midwest this year.
 
loggerhead12 said:
I don't think it's just the first ball. I think he wants a table that will set up more like this after the break:

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fastone371 said:
He's playing 9 ball, a second ball break would be a foul unless the racker doesn't know how to rack.
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fastone371 said:
He's playing 9 ball, a second ball break would be a foul unless the racker doesn't know how to rack.
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you are correct, my mind was stuck in 8 ball, thanks for pointing that out
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
I think it might be.

I do not have the same problem on the Diamond Professional.

I believe I am going to have a very experienced table mechanic come over in October and take a look at the GCIV. Hopefully he will see something that might make things better.
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why not just get rid of the GCIV and move on. sounds like you have a table you are happy with now (the diamond pro)
 
Off topic, can you try this 4 rail shot on both of your tables? Especially in the basement with the dehumidifier off? The 3rd rail contact point can be on either side of the side pocket. Feel free to move the balls around as you see fit for the best chance to make the 4 railer.

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iusedtoberich said:
Off topic, can you try this 4 rail shot on both of your tables? Especially in the basement with the dehumidifier off? The 3rd rail contact point can be on either side of the side pocket. Feel free to move the balls around as you see fit for the best chance to make the 4 railer.

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They used to play this all the time in one pocket where close was the intent. That was Brunswicks. Diamonds are no doubt more favorable.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Off topic, can you try this 4 rail shot on both of your tables? Especially in the basement with the dehumidifier off? The 3rd rail contact point can be on either side of the side pocket. Feel free to move the balls around as you see fit for the best chance to make the 4 railer.

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That shot falls on a crown far more often than a diamond for me anyways. I'm always wide on the diamond. 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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