Gender Issue for the WPBA

huckster

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Last week I gambled with a Swedish or Dutch? woman who used to be a man. My question is could she play on the WPBA if she qualified? She played very very well. I have played Jeanette and Vivian for the cash I really think she plays somewhere in the middle of those two. Her last name is Jacobsen and she is a large framed person who breaks and runs out like a champion. I was getting the 8 and she did something I have never seen another woman do. She ran a four pack on me. I played Jeanette in the mid nineties and she never even ran consecutive racks on me. This woman was rather raw but she broke the balls like Tony Ellin used to. So could she play on the WPBA?
 
bruin70 said:
maybe she/he could play in the wmpba.
Would he/she/it appeal to the hetro's, homo's or none of the above??:confused: What's it's best game...1 hole or back pocket?:eek:
 
Remember that tennis player that was not good enough to be competative in the men's tour so he had a sex change and played in ladies tour. I don't think that was the real reason for the sex change but there was a lot of jokes played off of it and a lot of debate about the legality. Can't remember his/name but it didn't matter, If you suck you still suck. After everyone seen that the talent was not there they were glad to get the entry money and extra press coverage.
 
huckster said:
Last week I gambled with a Swedish or Dutch? woman who used to be a man. My question is could she play on the WPBA if she qualified? She played very very well. I have played Jeanette and Vivian for the cash I really think she plays somewhere in the middle of those two. Her last name is Jacobsen and she is a large framed person who breaks and runs out like a champion. I was getting the 8 and she did something I have never seen another woman do. She ran a four pack on me. I played Jeanette in the mid nineties and she never even ran consecutive racks on me. This woman was rather raw but she broke the balls like Tony Ellin used to. So could she play on the WPBA?

There has been past precedence, but maybe they've changed their bylaws.

Fred
 
Yes, they could. They may have to legally have had the surgery though. There is another trans-gendered person who has played in the Regionals and the WPBA Amateur Nationals. She got fairly high up in the money. I remember my friend being mad that she got beat by her. I'm not sure if she has ever gotten to the actual pro tournaments though. Dang! Her nails looked nicer than mine! :p
 
huckster said:
Last week I gambled with a Swedish or Dutch? woman who used to be a man. My question is could she play on the WPBA if she qualified? She played very very well. I have played Jeanette and Vivian for the cash I really think she plays somewhere in the middle of those two. Her last name is Jacobsen and she is a large framed person who breaks and runs out like a champion. I was getting the 8 and she did something I have never seen another woman do. She ran a four pack on me. I played Jeanette in the mid nineties and she never even ran consecutive racks on me. This woman was rather raw but she broke the balls like Tony Ellin used to. So could she play on the WPBA?

Howdy,
My guess is that she will be allowed to play in WPBA because WPBA does not use DNA tests for determining the eligibility.WPBA, I guess, makes their decision by the physical looks of the player & the player`s declaration of their sex.I support her inclusion in WPBA tour when she qualifies.In my book that person is a women.cheers
 
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huckster said:
Last week I gambled with a Swedish or Dutch? woman who used to be a man. My question is could she play on the WPBA if she qualified? She played very very well. I have played Jeanette and Vivian for the cash I really think she plays somewhere in the middle of those two. Her last name is Jacobsen and she is a large framed person who breaks and runs out like a champion. I was getting the 8 and she did something I have never seen another woman do. She ran a four pack on me. I played Jeanette in the mid nineties and she never even ran consecutive racks on me. This woman was rather raw but she broke the balls like Tony Ellin used to. So could she play on the WPBA?

Years ago there was a female (x-male) that played on the Florida Amateur Tour. I believe they changed a rule to “….must be a natural born female” or something like that to play. Maybe this is the same person.

Rick
 
Here's a counter question for you. Could this person play in any mens events, anywhere?

Terry
 
rackmsuckr said:
Yes, they could. They may have to legally have had the surgery though. There is another trans-gendered person who has played in the Regionals and the WPBA Amateur Nationals. She got fairly high up in the money. I remember my friend being mad that she got beat by her. I'm not sure if she has ever gotten to the actual pro tournaments though. Dang! Her nails looked nicer than mine! :p

I think the person would have to have had the operation otherwise they are just impersonators and pulling a fraud. I used to play in a big gay bar with a nice pool room that had a lot of action. A few of those guys played real good and could have easily fooled someone into thinking they were a woman.
 
I don't think so ...

macguy said:
I think the person would have to have had the operation otherwise they are just impersonators and pulling a fraud. I used to play in a big gay bar with a nice pool room that had a lot of action. A few of those guys played real good and could have easily fooled someone into thinking they were a woman.

LOL ... I don't think so, not if you look at their hands, their adam's apple,
or if they possess a fascinating kind of a wierd look for a woman ... ROFL
Each sport has to decide its own guidelines, but an operation DOES NOT
make you the opposite sex, only the good Lord and your parents decide
what sex you are born into this world, and that is the sex you should
participate in sports as. Personally, though, I would like to see more
Open events being participated in by both sexes, so it could just be the
players and non-players decided. Gee, I could decide I am a camel.
Could I then participate in 'Across the desert' events?
 
"Playing Pool with No Ball"

The same thing about Tennis. This book was written by Rene Richards (male tennis player that had the sex change, circa 1970/80s)
 
vagabond said:
In my book that person is a women.cheers

It's nice to know someone is keeping a track of all this, I get quite confused myself at times ;-)
 
Snapshot9 said:
LOL ... I don't think so, not if you look at their hands, their adam's apple,
or if they possess a fascinating kind of a wierd look for a woman ... ROFL

I used to live in Greenwich Village (with my girlfriend, thank you very much) and I met several professional impersonators that would fool anybody. There are a lot of bad ross dressers, but there are some that as amazing. You would really had to see them to believe it. On guy in particular astounded me. As a guy he was pretty goofy looking, but as woman he was a knockout. All I will say is that I am very glad I had a girlfriend, otherwise I might has gotten a rather rude surprise.
 
Snapshot9 wrote:
> Gee, I could decide I am a camel. Could I then
> participate in 'Across the desert' events?


Only after the operation.

-- peer
 
Reminds me ...

mthornto said:
I used to live in Greenwich Village (with my girlfriend, thank you very much) and I met several professional impersonators that would fool anybody. There are a lot of bad ross dressers, but there are some that as amazing. You would really had to see them to believe it. On guy in particular astounded me. As a guy he was pretty goofy looking, but as woman he was a knockout. All I will say is that I am very glad I had a girlfriend, otherwise I might has gotten a rather rude surprise.

of when I was in the Navy, and we had a guy, half Mexican and half Irish,
aboard named Gomer. He was about as macho as they come. Well, used
to be in Subic Bay in the Philippines, they have 'Bennie boys' or TV's and
Gomer got fooled, took one to the Hotel, 2nd floor, made out for about
an hour, drunk with pleasure and otherwise, and finally went for the crotch. He got a rude awakening, and ended up throwing the 'Bennie Boy' out the 2nd story window. For about 2 months after that, Gomer could be seen around the ship working and spitting every 5 minutes remembering the tongue swapping he had done with the 'Bennie Boy'..... lol
He never lived it down, and it cracked everyone up on ship.
 
Reminds me ...

mthornto said:
I used to live in Greenwich Village (with my girlfriend, thank you very much) and I met several professional impersonators that would fool anybody. There are a lot of bad ross dressers, but there are some that as amazing. You would really had to see them to believe it. On guy in particular astounded me. As a guy he was pretty goofy looking, but as woman he was a knockout. All I will say is that I am very glad I had a girlfriend, otherwise I might has gotten a rather rude surprise.

of when I was in the Navy, and we had a guy, half Mexican and half Irish,
aboard named Gomer. He was about as macho as they come. Well, used
to be in Subic Bay in the Philippines, they have 'Bennie boys' or TV's and
Gomer got fooled, took one to the Hotel, 2nd floor, made out for about
an hour, drunk with pleasure and otherwise, and finally went for the crotch. He got a rude awakening, and ended up throwing the 'Bennie Boy' out the 2nd story window. For about 2 months after that, Gomer could be seen around the ship working and spitting every 5 minutes remembering the tongue swapping he had done with the 'Bennie Boy'..... lol
He never lived it down, and it cracked everyone up on ship.
 
Snapshot9 said:
Gee, I could decide I am a camel.
Could I then participate in 'Across the desert' events?

Only if you could pull off a post op "camel toe" :) lol



There is alot more to being a woman than saying you are. Even an operation will not make you one. The physiology of men and women runs alot deeper than the presence of a rick. A woman will always be a woman no matter what modern science is capable of doing... Same goes for men, even the most perverted of them...
 
I used to do mammograms for a living and was very surprised to have a man to do when I called him from the waiting room. But men can get breast cancer too (men, do your breast exams!) Anyway, this guy was short and roly-poly with a beard. When I went to get him from the waiting room, you could tell his 'wife' was a she-male.

When he took off his shirt, I was shocked to see radical mastectomy scars bilaterally. Being very curious and blunt, I asked about the whole situation. Turns out he used to be a female..in the depths of despair about his life and ready to commit suicide, when lo and behold, there on his doorstep asleep one morning, equally in despair is his future wife, a transvestite. He had the surgery to become a woman (the wife), and she had partial surgery...the part to remove the breasts. She/he still had the female parts below and said a lot of doctors would not even examine her. They were going through a study at the U.

Very odd couple, but in love and he was really nice.
 
rackmsuckr said:
I used to do mammograms for a living and was very surprised to have a man to do when I called him from the waiting room. But men can get breast cancer too (men, do your breast exams!) Anyway, this guy was short and roly-poly with a beard. When I went to get him from the waiting room, you could tell his 'wife' was a she-male.

When he took off his shirt, I was shocked to see radical mastectomy scars bilaterally. Being very curious and blunt, I asked about the whole situation. Turns out he used to be a female..in the depths of despair about his life and ready to commit suicide, when lo and behold, there on his doorstep asleep one morning, equally in despair is his future wife, a transvestite. He had the surgery to become a woman (the wife), and she had partial surgery...the part to remove the breasts. She/he still had the female parts below and said a lot of doctors would not even examine her. They were going through a study at the U.

Very odd couple, but in love and he was really nice.
Sounds like "He said, she said" to me...lol
 

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