Get Rid of the Dresscode For Televised Pool?

cuetechasaurus

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Recently in a thread, Joe Rogan (yes, it's really him) brought up really strong point about the dresscode for televized pool, comparing it to how poker players can wear basically whatever they want, and they are playing for millions.

Read his whole post here: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=854297#post854297


That is a really solid point, and I think that people should really take what he said into consideration. It's kind of funny if you think about it. Players dressed up like they are at a wedding, with bowties that probably leave a red mark around their neck when they take it off, playing a game that requires perfect phsyical and mental coordination. And what are they playing for? 20 or 30 grand. Then you look at poker, which requires you to just sit there and try to keep a straight face while you're holding the nuts against someone that's trapped in the hand with you, while they ponder for 15 minutes whether to raise or fold. They look like they are just relaxing at home on the sofa scratching their asses, and yet many people find the game so compelling to watch (don't get me wrong, I like poker).

I think that comparing pool and poker in this aspect, kind of make people think that pool is trying way too hard to be taken seriously. What you see on TV when you are watching poker looks alot like what you will see when you walk into a casino. What you see on TV when you are watching pool, looks nothing like what you see when you are in a poolroom.

Why is it necessary for players to dress up? This is not the 1940's where everyone in a poolhall wore suits and ties with tophats. Where pool lacks in character development for an audience, it makes up for tenfold in the game's complexity alone (at least for knowledgeable audiences).

One thing that I really don't understand is, if people think that the seedy image of pool is what's holding the sport back, why is poker so successful? Poker has just that image, and people LOVE it.

In just about every sport that is televised, players wear whatever helps them perform better at whatever they are doing. Look at golf, that's considered a classy game. Yes, they wear nice clothes, but it's very comfortable clothing, that they would wear if they were out on a golf course just for leisure.

Your thoughts please.
 
Get rid of the dress code? I'm all for it! The possibilities are endless!
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I've always maintained that dress codes were nonsense. Pool enthusiasts are always say that in the old days they all wore suits and pool was popular as if there were a causual relationship between them. No there was no relationship, it was just coincidence that pool was popular at a time when people dress formally for everything. Men would put on a suit to go to the movies, the change to casual clothes has not seemed to hurt movie attendance.
Pool is just not popular enough with the general public to make it to tv often. Until it is generally popular, clothing worn won't make a bit of difference. Though possibly lack of clothing may cause a "spike" in popularity.
 
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For the most part yes, but there should still be some restrictions... I think everyone on TV should look clean. But Alex should be able to wear his Enyce and it should also be okay for players to show up in polo's and khaki like the golfers wear... Right now it's a joke, and if you don't have any restrictions you'll have a bunch of dirty dressed people... not good.

Making them wear suits only closes them out, it takes away some kind of connection with the viewers, who see them wearing it and go "look at how these idiots are dressed".
 
I don't advocate players wearing coats and ties. But at a minimum pro poolplayers should dress at least as well as pro golfers: collared shirts, dress slacks, and decent shoes. No hats, no idiot slogans on their shirts.

Doc
 
gulfportdoc said:
I don't advocate players wearing coats and ties. But at a minimum pro poolplayers should dress at least as well as pro golfers: collared shirts, dress slacks, and decent shoes. No hats, no idiot slogans on their shirts.

Doc

I agree with gulfportdoc, we all know our sport needs to appear a little cleaned up so nice clothes are a must. Our sport is always looking for sponsors so we should at least pretend we clean up well...
Blackjack PUT THOSE THINGS AWAY!!! LOL!
 
i'm not saying there should be a dress code to this extent, but i actually like the formal dress that all the pro snooker players still wear. it has relaxed a bit though, you don't have to button your shirt all the way up or wear a bowtie. in this day and age where everything is so casual, it is nice to see something dressy. and it just looks classy.
 
McChen said:
i'm not saying there should be a dress code to this extent, but i actually like the formal dress that all the pro snooker players still wear. it has relaxed a bit though, you don't have to button your shirt all the way up or wear a bowtie. in this day and age where everything is so casual, it is nice to see something dressy. and it just looks classy.

Different strokes for different folks, in my mind it just looks silly. :)
Steve. <= uncomfortable with anything on his feet but sneakers.
 
I think seeing a pool player in dress attire is just plain silly. Clean yes, but t shirt and decent jeans with tennis shoes should be fine for anyone.
 
Well I personally feel that there's a time and place for everything. If your going out with friends to the local spot wear whatever you want. But being that the sport already has the image that it does, and I'm sure that everyone is aware that the first impression is usually the lasting one. If we're fortunate enough to have the oppurtunity to be on television I know that I would want to look my best, fresh hair cut, clean shave or shaped goatee depending on my mood at the time. Nice Polo shirt will do with slacks, or khaki's, Loafers or Comfortable Dress shoes to finish it off.

In the world of business and advertising, image is everything. I think that the example that Golf set is a good one to try and emulate.

Just my thoughts, on the matter. Black Cat:cool:
 
I concur ...

Black Cat 5791 said:
Nice Polo shirt will do with slacks, or khaki's, Loafers or Comfortable Dress shoes to finish it off.
In the world of business and advertising, image is everything. I think that the example that Golf set is a good one to try and emulate.

Pool can NEVER rise to it's original position of prominence without a dress code for Tournaments and Televised events ... The "Gangsta" outfits worn by some prominent California players are disgusting ... Why would an intelligent man wear pants with the crotch down to his knees ? (intelligent being the key word) ... By requiring a dress code you maintain decorum and respect for other players, the room owners, tournament officials, and the spectators, not to mention self respect ... For those who feel the need to look "tough", join the military and get a quick lesson in Tough !!!
 
I think most golfers are pompous, and pool players should not try to emulate anything about them. Except maybe the paycheck.

Anyone wanna buy my clubs?
 
BazookaJoe said:
I think most golfers are pompous, and pool players should not try to emulate anything about them. Except maybe the paycheck.

Anyone wanna buy my clubs?

The paychecks are what makes the golfers pompous. Don't you want to be pompous too?
 
Str8PoolPlayer said:
Pool can NEVER rise to it's original position of prominence without a dress code for Tournaments and Televised events ... The "Gangsta" outfits worn by some prominent California players are disgusting ... Why would an intelligent man wear pants with the crotch down to his knees ? (intelligent being the key word) ... By requiring a dress code you maintain decorum and respect for other players, the room owners, tournament officials, and the spectators, not to mention self respect ... For those who feel the need to look "tough", join the military and get a quick lesson in Tough !!!

The most true thing there is that "Pool can NEVER rise to it's original position of prominence", regardless of dress codes. Baseball is doing fine and the way the uniform is worn by ball players is pretty damn sloppy; basketball players wear shorts that look like their grandmothers bloomers and basketball is doing fine.
I agree people should dress nicely in certain situations just out of self-respect, but dress codes aren't going to make any difference at all in pool's unpopularity as a spectator sport. That is the bottom line.
 
I think it might be interesting to see them out there in their baseball caps, t-shirts, cargo shorts, and flip-flops, or whatever it is they would wear if they were playing an unscheduled, untelevised game with a friend. I think it would accomplish two things; it would give the players more personality, which might mean the guy who watches one televised match might decide he likes one player's style and wants to see if he does well in the next match, and also it would make the players seem more like average Joes, which I think makes their accomplishments on the pool table look all the more impressive.

Poker exploded when Chris Moneymaker: Average Guy, bluffed Sammy Farha: Giant of the Gambling World, to take a dominant chip lead at the final table of the game's biggest event. Might not pool enjoy some of the same appeal if Gabe Owen: average-looking, baby-faced, young man with unkempt hair in t-shirt and hemp necklace, ran out five racks in a row to defeat Earl Strickland: gloved, conservative-looking, many-time champion with the icy scowl?

-Andrew
 
Rogan understands how a competitor can become larger than life by becoming both a showman and a pool player/UFC fighter/Stand up up comedian (who advocates and performs many marijuana related themes) and actor.

If he says one's personal would shine through, then I would go with it.
 
I suppose turkeys would think women's professional pool would be improved with sweat suits and bunny slippers:D :D :D
 
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