Can anyone describe the hit between these? I am looking to buy one of these. I am leaning towards the Gina. Thanks
Gina-Tad-Tascarella-Szamboti
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Scott, is this not a good question?ScottR said:You're shittin' us, right???
Those seem more like collector cues, IMO. They wil play no better than any other quality cue maker for a grand or less.
Tell you what, I'll use a house cue and you use your new cue. Stuff a duffle bag with al the chips it will hold. Then lets play some
J/K of course. Just wanted to point out the lunacy of high priced cues for the sake of their "play"
Tell you what, I'll use a house cue and you use your new cue. Stuff a duffle bag with al the chips it will hold. Then lets play some
J/K of course. Just wanted to point out the lunacy of high priced cues for the sake of their "play"
What we think of the hit doesn't matter. what matters is what U think of the hit IF your buying the cue to play with. If your concerned about ROI I would recommend ; SZAM, TASC by a unt air over a TAD and then GINA ( assuming it's a catalogue model).vinniebabarooch said:Can anyone describe the hit between these? I am looking to buy one of these. I am leaning towards the Gina. Thanks
on any given cue, the hit will vary slightly,,,and it's a personnal feel thing. so there's no
real basis upon which to answer your Q.
now, i owned two tads and played with two others, and didn't like any of their hits. in fact two(mine) had a dead hit. no action. zero. zilch. a dead joint on one. this contrasts with everyone else i know who have played with tads....they love the cue.
everyone i know loves the tascarella hit. i've never played with one. one person who i trust implicitly about cue hits, likes the tascarella hit a lot.
real basis upon which to answer your Q.
now, i owned two tads and played with two others, and didn't like any of their hits. in fact two(mine) had a dead hit. no action. zero. zilch. a dead joint on one. this contrasts with everyone else i know who have played with tads....they love the cue.
everyone i know loves the tascarella hit. i've never played with one. one person who i trust implicitly about cue hits, likes the tascarella hit a lot.
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played with all four and the sequence is probably...
Szamboti-Tas-Gina-Tad
TAD IMHO hits too soft and wimperish for my liking... but u could probably put ur adversary in awe with all the detailed inlays that Kohara is known for.
GINA would move a notch up if it was the old titlist Gina we are talking about.. then it would probably be as playable as the Tas.
Szamboti-Tas-Gina-Tad
TAD IMHO hits too soft and wimperish for my liking... but u could probably put ur adversary in awe with all the detailed inlays that Kohara is known for.
GINA would move a notch up if it was the old titlist Gina we are talking about.. then it would probably be as playable as the Tas.
I do not have a lot of experience with boti and Tascarella, with regard to Tad and Gina, in my personal opinion, Tad cues that I have tried had a harder and stiffer hit than Gina cues that I have tried. If I were to choose a cue for 9 ball between the two, I will go with a Gina.
Tad cues are very solid and beautiful. I am just not good enough to control the large amount of squirt. Gina cues are easier for me to get used to and I can get more English with a Gina. This is just my own opinion based on how I play the game so it is very subjective.
Tang Hao is a great player and he plays with a Tad. Chao from Taiwan won his WPC with a Gina. So, as you can see, some players do use these cues as their playing cues and it is all a matter of personal perference. They are all very well built cues.
If I am going to buy a cue as part of my collection, I will go with a Tad because I really like his workmanship and his style. Also, the price is a bit more affordable for me. Once again, it is very subjective.
I recommand you go to some shows such as the Allen Hopkins and speak to the vendors who sell collectible cues. If you are a serious buyer, they probably will let you hit some balls with each cue. They are very knowledgable and will answer your questions. Classiccues, Cornerstone, Cue Auction...etc are a few vendors that come to mind. If you have the time, you may make an appointment and visit the cue makers directly to get a better idea of how and why they do what they do.
Now, if you also want a great break cue, well,...
Good luck.
Richard
Tad cues are very solid and beautiful. I am just not good enough to control the large amount of squirt. Gina cues are easier for me to get used to and I can get more English with a Gina. This is just my own opinion based on how I play the game so it is very subjective.
Tang Hao is a great player and he plays with a Tad. Chao from Taiwan won his WPC with a Gina. So, as you can see, some players do use these cues as their playing cues and it is all a matter of personal perference. They are all very well built cues.
If I am going to buy a cue as part of my collection, I will go with a Tad because I really like his workmanship and his style. Also, the price is a bit more affordable for me.
Once again, it is very subjective.I recommand you go to some shows such as the Allen Hopkins and speak to the vendors who sell collectible cues. If you are a serious buyer, they probably will let you hit some balls with each cue. They are very knowledgable and will answer your questions. Classiccues, Cornerstone, Cue Auction...etc are a few vendors that come to mind. If you have the time, you may make an appointment and visit the cue makers directly to get a better idea of how and why they do what they do.
Now, if you also want a great break cue, well,...
Good luck.
Richard
Not to complicate the issue (although I guess I am), have you considered a Kersenbrock? I guess I heard Tommy Kennedy talk about how good his played so often that I got biased. Mr. Kersenbrock also made some cues for Omega. His cues have a stiff hit, with minimal deflection. Anyway, good luck - there are a lot of us who wish we had your dilemna.
What about the balance?
I haven't tried the hit with very many cues from the better custom cue makers, but the new Gina that I recently purchased is far superior to the many other lower-end cues that I own (which include Pechauer, Lucasi, Sierra, McDermott, Viking, Nova).
The best thing about the Gina that I like is the balance. I would say that I like a firm hit and don't like too whippy of a shaft. But I also don't like a clinkly hit from a hard tip. The Gina provides everything that I like in the hit with the piloted ivory joint, ivory ferrule and a moori medium tip--but what really stood out to me was the balance.
Although the cue is 19oz, it doesn't feel that heavy in my hands because it is so well balanced. Whether your jacking up or not, the cue doesn't feel rear-heavy...which I really like.
Since I haven't hit with the other cues that are part of this discussion, I can only assume that they are also very well balanced. Can someone comment on the balance of the other cues? I'm just surprised that whenever someone asks about the hit of a particular cue, the balance never seems to enter into the discussion....when that is a very important thing for me personnally.
I haven't tried the hit with very many cues from the better custom cue makers, but the new Gina that I recently purchased is far superior to the many other lower-end cues that I own (which include Pechauer, Lucasi, Sierra, McDermott, Viking, Nova).
The best thing about the Gina that I like is the balance. I would say that I like a firm hit and don't like too whippy of a shaft. But I also don't like a clinkly hit from a hard tip. The Gina provides everything that I like in the hit with the piloted ivory joint, ivory ferrule and a moori medium tip--but what really stood out to me was the balance.
Although the cue is 19oz, it doesn't feel that heavy in my hands because it is so well balanced. Whether your jacking up or not, the cue doesn't feel rear-heavy...which I really like.
Since I haven't hit with the other cues that are part of this discussion, I can only assume that they are also very well balanced. Can someone comment on the balance of the other cues? I'm just surprised that whenever someone asks about the hit of a particular cue, the balance never seems to enter into the discussion....when that is a very important thing for me personnally.
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vinniebabarooch said:Can anyone describe the hit between these? I am looking to buy one of these. I am leaning towards the Gina. Thanks
Do not want to put a Torpedo in your Question. But it is like asking someone to describe to difference between Taco Bell, and Real Mexican Food. To someone who has only eaten at Taco Bell.
I have a number of expensive cues and they all play good but I have played with my Tad for the last 7 years. For me it is a perfect playing cue. For quality of craftmanship you can't beat a Ginacue. His shop is right across the street from my business and it is quite an experience to go through it while Ernie is working on a new line. He is a perfectionist and a bit of a genius with tools and machinery and he spent a few years building his own cue making equipment before he restarted making cues a number of years back. I have a beautiful custom cue that I had made by another cuemaker but the shafts were not that great. I had Ernie make me a couple of shafts including a snooker shaft and the difference was very noticeable. The wood he uses for his shafts is cut and worked on for years before he will use it on a cue, he has barrels of shaft woods that have different years on them. When you get a shaft from him you should know you are getting one close to perfection. The wood that a lot of cuemakers use for shafts would not survive his perfectionism.
Wayne
Wayne