Given the number of quality cues made in the last 20 years, why are so few available?

[Bavafongoul]

Billiard thought.....you have a great down payment waiting to order a great custom cue or
add a few coins and allow cash to work you the best deal in the secondary resale market.

Bob is absolutely correct in what he described. At tournaments, you get a whole lot more
folks that know something about cues aside from a bunch of cue-makers they heard about.

It allows your cues to be seen in person, confirm its excellence or possible lack of, ascertain
its feel & balance, verify the feel of the shafts and most importantly, negotiate the best prices.

I hope to eventually walk into a future cue show outside CA , maybe L.V., meander around
& visit the exhibitors and discover a Hercek cue that fits the bill that I've sought for so long.

At least. one can still hope.

 

[cubswin]

More cues for sale than anyone could quantify, yet you can't find one? You must not know how to use the internet. I suggest you take a class in how to use google, and maybe find another class to help you get a job that pays more than wendy's or mcdonalds.

 

[caff3in3]

More cues for sale than anyone could quantify, yet you can't find one? You must not know how to use the internet. I suggest you take a class in how to use google, and maybe find another class to help you get a job that pays more than wendy's or mcdonalds.

Cue and laptop flipping probably pay pretty well

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[Cowboy Dennis]

OP,

I know this is just a joke thread but I'll bite for the hell of it. I'll give you a short story about my cues and why they aren't for sale to you or anyone.

I have a "The Rifleman" edition Meucci cue that Cornbread's wife had made for him many years ago. I bought it in the mid-eighties I think and it was already old. It is stored in a nice Fellini case that she also had made for him. The cue & case both have "Cornbread Red" engraved on them.
"The Rifleman by Meucci" is engraved on the butt cap. I have no intention of selling the cue or case unless I was offered about 10 times what they are worth. A nice long story goes along with the cue about my acquisition of it.

I have a 6 point Schon with 2 shafts that also belonged to Red and has "Cornbread Red" engraved on the butt. This cue is stored in a nice Fellini case. I have played with this cue and only this cue for 30 years. I have no intention of selling it for any reason.

I have a Pechauer cue that is one of the best-hitting cues I've ever hit with, even better than my playing cue. It has 5 matching shafts. The only offer anyone ever made me on it was $200. I'd rather burn it.

I have a Jack Madden cue that is not for sale at the current time.

I have an unplayed, unchalked, Barry Szamboti cue with 2 shafts that was made in 2000. It is still in the Fed-Ex triangular shipping container. I may sell it when I get closer to retiring but since it is a 16 year old (now), brand new cue it will not be cheap.

P.S. Both of the "Cornbread Red" cues had a "bounty" placed on them years ago by a person who wanted them back (not Cornbread). Cute story there also.

RBL

 

[SJDinPHX]

OP,

I know this is just a joke thread but I'll bite for the hell of it. I'll give you a short story about my cues and why they aren't for sale to you or anyone.

I have a "The Rifleman" edition Meucci cue that Cornbread's wife had made for him many years ago. I bought it in the mid-eighties I think and it was already old. It is stored in a nice Fellini case that she also had made for him. The cue & case both have "Cornbread Red" engraved on them.
"The Rifleman by Meucci" is engraved on the butt cap. I have no intention of selling the cue or case unless I was offered about 10 times what they are worth. A nice long story goes along with the cue about my acquisition of it.

I have a 6 point Schon with 2 shafts that also belonged to Red and has "Cornbread Red" engraved on the butt. This cue is stored in a nice Fellini case. I have played with this cue and only this cue for 30 years. I have no intention of selling it for any reason.

I have a Pechauer cue that is one of the best-hitting cues I've ever hit with, even better than my playing cue. It has 5 matching shafts. The only offer anyone ever made me on it was $200. I'd rather burn it.

I have a Jack Madden cue that is not for sale at the current time.

I have an unplayed, unchalked, Barry Szamboti cue with 2 shafts that was made in 2000. It is still in the Fed-Ex triangular shipping container. I may sell it when I get closer to retiring but since it is a 16 year old (now), brand new cue it will not be cheap.

P.S. Both of the "Cornbread Red" cues had a "bounty" placed on them years ago by a person who wanted them back (not Cornbread). Cute story there also.

RBL

If you only had facebook, a whole new world would open up to you!..You dummy, why do you even have a computer?

 

[billiardthought]

If you only had facebook, a whole new world would open up to you!..You dummy, why do you even have a computer?

The only thing I see you contribute to this website is your nut hugging ability to follow this guy around the threads and comment each time. Why do YOU even have a computer

 

[SJDinPHX]

The only thing I see you contribute to this website is your nut hugging ability to follow this guy around the threads and comment each time. Why do YOU even have a computer?

I might ask you the same question, Mr. Billiardthought? (very strange forum ID?).....Your main contribution to the forum, seems to be making bad bets, then crying about paying off! :yeah:

PM your PayPal. Currently crying

PS..Why would you say I'm 'nut-hugging' Cowboy Dennis, when all I ever do is call him an idiot!

 

[billiardthought]

I might ask you the same question, Mr. Billiardthought? (very strange forum ID?).....Your main contribution to the forum, seems to
be making bad bets, then crying about paying off! :yeah:



PS..Why would you say I'm 'nut-hugging' Cowboy Dennis, when all I ever do is call him an idiot!

Considering you have the comprehension and attention span of my dachshund I will help you out.

I bet on chip based on his performance at the Memphis open which anyone will agree was stellar at the least, so you can shove it saying it was a bad bet. When Danny defeated chip in record time, I joked about crying simply because of the fact that the match was over before I finished dinner. I didn't cry about paying off my bet, I actually paid it in a matter of minutes following the conclusion of the match.

Next.

 

[SJDinPHX]

Considering you have the comprehension and attention span of my dachshund I will help you out.

I bet on chip based on his performance at the Memphis open which anyone will agree was stellar at the least, so you can shove it saying it was a bad bet. When Danny defeated chip in record time, I joked about crying simply because of the fact that the match was over before I finished dinner. I didn't cry about paying off my bet, I actually paid it in a matter of minutes following the conclusion of the match.

Next.

Please let me know the next time you want to make another "good bet"!...I like people who pay off quick!..There is a remote chance we might like the same horse, but not very likely! :thumbup:

PS..Elnino got to you just before I did!.. but luckily I found $200 worth of other suck...ahem, er, ah gentlemen, who also thought wrong like you did!..BTW, my dachsund can whip your dachsund!

 

[KissedOut]

PS..Why would you say I'm 'nut-hugging' Cowboy Dennis, when all I ever do is call him an idiot!

Same reason the little boy in second grade pulled the pigtails of the girl he liked.

 

[SJDinPHX]

Same reason the little boy in second grade pulled the pigtails of the girl he liked.

Great analogy.(I guess???)...Except--->

(1) Cowboy Dennis is actually a good friend, but he does he not have pigtails! :embarrassed2:

(2) I did pull a girls pigtail once, but it was in high school!..She beat me up! :embarrassed2:

(3) Dennis is not even a cowboy, but he is definitely an idiot! :embarrassed2:

PS..Mr.KissedOut..Are you by any chance related to Mr. billiardthought?..You both have such catchy (and clever) forum ID's!

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

If you only had facebook, a whole new world would open up to you!..You dummy, why do you even have a computer?

The only thing I see you contribute to this website is your nut hugging ability to follow this guy around the threads and comment each time. Why do YOU even have a computer

billiardthought,

Dick McMorran is a good friend of mine and has been for 8 years. He actually played with my "Cornbread Red" Meucci cue in 2010 when he came to Detroit for a funeral and we met and played for 5 hours. I beat him out of $6200 and sent him back to Arizona broke.

Anything we write to each other is usually in jake or jest as he is a sucker I look forward to busting again. He also has a horrible-looking sweater that he wore when he beat Cliff Joyner in 1998 and he wears it when he plays me because he thinks it brings him luck. It does; bad luck.

He also has another shirt he wears to bring him luck. It's a Red Wings shirt some idiot sent him for his 74th birthday. I believe it cost $2.79. When he wears it I let him break from here:



RBL

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

Same reason the little boy in second grade pulled the pigtails of the girl he liked.

Great analogy.(I guess???)...Except--->

(1) Cowboy Dennis is actually a good friend, but he does he not have pigtails! :embarrassed2:

(2) I did pull a girls pigtail once, but it was in high school!..She beat me up! :embarrassed2:

(3) Dennis is not even a cowboy, but he is definitely an idiot! :embarrassed2:

PS..Mr.KissedOut..Are you by any chance related to Mr. billiardthought?..You both have such catchy (and clever) forum ID's!

Ducky,

As usual I believe you completely missed the point of KissedOut's post. He is referring (I think) to the fact that as young boys we usually pulled the pigtails or threw spitwads of paper (my favorite) or otherwise messed with the girls we really liked. I believe he is saying you actually really are infatuated with me (but not in a gay sort of way, I hope).

RBL

 

[SJDinPHX]

billiardthought,

Dick McMorran is a good friend of mine and has been for 8 years. He actually played with my "Cornbread Red" Meucci cue in 2010 when he came to Detroit for a funeral and we met and played for 5 hours. I beat him out of $6200 and sent him back to Arizona broke.

Anything we write to each other is usually in jake or jest as he is a sucker I look forward to busting again. He also has a horrible-looking sweater that he wore when he beat Cliff Joyner in 1998 and he wears it when he plays me because he thinks it brings him luck. It does; bad luck.

He also has another shirt he wears to bring him luck. It's a Red Wings shirt some idiot sent him for his 74th birthday. I believe it cost $2.79. When he wears it I let him break from here:

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RBL

The odds of 'Cowgirl Denise' beating me (or anyone) out of even 62 dollars, are 10,000 to one!..In fact, he still owes me $4200 from our 2010 play!..Notice, I always wear a hard hat when I play him, because he usually becomes violent, when hes going off!...Now leave me alone, its cocktail time!

Actual photo of CD himself.(before pigtails, and his 200 lb.
beer gut weight gain!)

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

The odds of 'Cowgirl Denise' beating me (or anyone) out of even 62 dollars, are 10,000 to one!..In fact, he still owes me $4200 from our 2010 play!..Notice, I always wear a hard hat when I play him, because he usually becomes violent, when hes going off!...Now leave me alone, its cocktail time!

Actual photo of CD himself.(before pigtails, and his 175 lb. weight gain!)
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Ducky,

You know that pic was taken before I had my pigtails and before I gained 200 lbs..

RBL

 

[justinb386]

I'll try to answer seriously although I probably shouldn't. I do have some cues I never use in my closet. Only one anybody would consider a collectors item.

Why don't I sell 'em? Simply because it's too much of a hassle.

(edit) To explain further...If I tried to sell 'em, I might find myself putting up with Justin, or somebody equally as weird. The money simply wouldn't be worth the effort.[/QUOTE

Please try to understand that you would have no issues in dealing with me (or any other buyer) if you were to ship the item as advertised. All of these guys are bashing me because I complained about cues that were clearly not delivered to me as advertised. I want to make one thing clear. Nicks and dings do not bother me, and taper roll outs in the shafts do not bother me either, but when I can clearly see a roll out (warp) in the butt, or if the tip of the shaft rolls out, and these things were not advertised, then I (and any other buyer that checks for warps) would have an issue. You guys treat me like I am this unique type of trouble maker, when the fact is that I have just been really unlucky. Sellers keep shipping me these cues that are clearly warped (when advertised as rolling perfectly straight), and I do not have the right to complain? Then you say that you would never want to deal with me. This makes no sense to me. You should understand that you would have no issues with me if you shipped me the cue in the condition that you advertised it to be in. Please try to be understanding, and put yourself in the position that I have been in with these warped cues that I have received from sellers. I imagine you would be very unhappy too.

 

[justinb386]

One thing I've thought of (for the cues I should get rid of...): Take them to a tournament. Make a deal with the room owner/promoter for a 10% fee for what you sell and sell them as-is, no returns, no refunds, try them out before buying.

That is a very smart idea.

 

[justinb386]

More cues for sale than anyone could quantify, yet you can't find one? You must not know how to use the internet. I suggest you take a class in how to use google, and maybe find another class to help you get a job that pays more than wendy's or mcdonalds.

I did not say that I could not find a cue. You guys are putting words into my mouth (things that I never said or implied). I was just curious where are all of the cues at that have been built and used over the past 20 years. I will name 1 cue maker for example. Meucci. They are known to have mass produced far more cues then any of the other US cue makers. I just wonder how many cues they have made and sold (to players) in the last 20 years. I imagine that number is pretty high, but I have no idea. I do not know how many cues per year most US production cue companies build (like Meucci, Mcdermott, Viking, Joss, and even Schon, which I imagine builds by far the fewest out of the rest of the US production cue makers). To be honest, I do not create this thread because I could not find a cue. I actually already found a cue (which is warped by the way), but I am still happy with the cue, even though I am not sure if it was a fair deal or not. I guess all that matters is that I really like it, and can play good with it.

 

[Scott Lee]

Just another example of your pool naivete' Justin. There are significantly more active league players today, than there were 2 decades ago (APA alone has increased their membership in the last 20 years by 60%). There are a whole bunch more nationally sanctioned leagues to play in, than there were 20 years ago.

The real question is how many cues are owned by the giant majority of small town league players, who never go to a national tournament, because their league is only local. There are at least 10x more of them, than all the sanctioned league players put together...400,000 vs. 4,000,000. Figure how to crack into that grass roots market, and you will have accomplished something nobody else has.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

I know this thread will probably get bashed, and laughed at, but I will ask this post my thoughts that I am curious about anyways.

I do not know how many active players there are here in the US currently,


I do not think there are as many active serious pool players today then there were 20 years ago (for example).

 

[deanoc]

my guess is that most people who buy custom cues keep them
the other explanation might be that there are many available,
but most sell through dealers who handle the transaction on the qt ,confidentially

another explanation would include the great number that go overseas

plus here on az,is not the place where most high dollar cues are sold


just a guess