glue question.

[qbilder]

Been using titebond for my tips and ferrules since the beginning. Ferrules are threaded and the tenon has to be just a perfect fit or you will run into problems as previously mentioned. Not too loose....not too tight....you have too work very fast when screwing them on. If you get them too tight the moisture in the glue swells the wood. I have twisted a few tenons off before I got the equation correct. I have cut them in two, length wise, and I'm very happy with the results. Much easier too replace a ferrule when not using epoxy also, IMO. The threads are what hold the ferrule in place...the glue just acts as a loctite and keeps it from unscrewing itself.
I only use this method on LBM and ivory.........but of course those are the only ferrule materials worth a hoot, IMO.

Exactly what I do, too, except that I use cyano for my tips. I agree, melamine is the way to go. I don't care for ivory. Lots of people love it, though.

 

[manwon]

OK the consciences is that wood glue will not bond properly for internal applications where stress will occur. If anyone knows, what is Pete Tascarella using for his A-Joint / Handle area? I know Pete is not using Epoxy.

Thanks Craig

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

I don't know what they use now, but for years Mcdermott used screw on ferrules & white glue. I've been to the factory & seen them...JER

 

[RocketQ]

Wood glues work only if they can be forced into the pores of the wood. Which is why high clamping pressures of around 3000 ~ 4000 lbs. are required. Also alot of the exotics that we use don't have much porosity to begin with. You'll never get (or feasably be able to) apply that to a cue. I use 2 ton bonding strength epoxy everywhere on a cue except on ring work where I use cyanos.

Where did you get this information? I have been building furniture and working with wood my whole life. And I know I don't own a wood clamp pipe or bar that can produce 3-4000 lb of pressure. In my experience if your joint is inside 1/64 " the glue will hold fine, not as strong as tight but still hold well.

 

[Craig Fales]

Where did you get this information? I have been building furniture and working with wood my whole life. And I know I don't own a wood clamp pipe or bar that can produce 3-4000 lb of pressure. In my experience if your joint is inside 1/64 " the glue will hold fine, not as strong as tight but still hold well.

I got that info from a woodworking forum. I'll post a link as soon as I find the thread there.

 

[KJ Cues]

I use 2 ton bonding strength epoxy everywhere on a cue except on ring work where I use cyanos.

Cyano for deco-rings???

You can do as you like but you should be mindful that cyano starts to break down after a year or so of use. It's fine for tips because most players will change tips at least once a year. Also be aware that cyano doesn't like impact. I'm sure we'll be told of exceptions and I'm speaking of generalization. Each case is different. ie, sometimes you can get away with it and sometimes you can't. I'd rather not risk it.