Going to the Movies or Watching BB ?

Chris, What if BB is successful, What would your opinion be if corporate sponsorship came on board. A lot of people have no vision of what could be. Sad that you are one of them. I have been told that can't work so many times in business, I used to laugh at proving people and their opinions wrong, Especially railbirds that got off on rooting agains't me. I have made a lot of good decisions in the restaurant, billiard, and nightclub business. I took a lot of gut feeling chances based on what I believed, and not what other people thought. These are the same gut feelings I have about BB right now. I you think there is a future for the Pro Pool Player without a new game plan, You are blind my friend. The bigger picture is corporate sponsorship. And that is the only thing that counts. Been doing what you do a lot longer than you. I have bet it up in action and business. Most poolplayers can not understand anything I just said, They are pro players that don't know much about business. I would suggest getting on facebook and telling your friends to check it out. Time has flew by since I was in my early 20's, And pool has gone nowhere. Excuse me, It has gone backwards. This is my opinion based on history and living it.
Gary Lutman

I hope it works out Gary
I don't think it will but that's my opinion
 
No.

I mean no offense, but coke and popcorn I consume at my house will cost about $2.

Much respect,

Taek

Yeah, and when I go to a movie I put a coke and a chocolate bar into my pocket before I go, it costs me about $2.

We are comparing one entertainment to another, the fact is I spend more at home watching pool then I do watching a movie because I am not drinking pop, I am drinking $80 per a bottle dark rum, so the movie is cheaper, so there~

See what I did there? What you did in effect. Compare the actual entertainment and the actual price of those entertainments, not the cost of the steak you ate at some steak restaurant before you went to the movie...
 
You know I will match up, Chris was there the night of my injury, In case you don't believe me. Coming on here challenging me. You are funny ! Now on the serious side. When and if my shoulder ever heals, You can figure out then how to beat me then. We all know I need weight, Just a matter of me convincing you how much. I am a longtime sucker. Don't insult my intelligence. I will take 10-7, 9-7 from you. If you ask me in a nice way !! And you know play cheap is not something I have ever enjoyed. Now , Getting ready to watch some BB. Damn, I burn't my popcorn. Later Gary

Save me some..looks like we will both be sitting on the sidelines watching..ha ha later Gary..
 
Hey Gary,

Hope you are doing well.

You stated above that your best game is 1P. I have played you a lot of 9B in tournament play (at Chesterfield Billiards) and it ain't 1P. ( I never beat you or came close)

I like BB, it reminds me of golf on a 4.5 x 9 snooker table. A lot of maneuvering and thinking.

I would like to see BB played on a snooker table or a 5 x 10.

Take care man. :wink:

John
 
Shannon Daulton just hit an epic shot at at Mach 5 for the win to go into halftime and not one person has kicked the back of my seat yet. :)
 
I think BB is worth supporting 10 bucks multiple matches more than one can watch. I believe the stream will become stable. The game is interesting could perhaps be tweaked but hey they are trying.

BB is a new frontier perhaps they will be a real business hopefully not a shooting star. Myself i hope to make it to vegas while everything is developing.

So pull the trigger blow 10 bucks every now and again
 
The best thing I enjoy about BB is watch players blend their knowledge and work together. I am willing to bet that players will make their games much stronger from absorbing their team mates knowledge.

I have watched Frost teach Kennedy shots he never would have thought of time after time. I know TK's game is getting better from playing with his team.
 
Atlanta BARELY wins. Awesome match. The highlight was when Daulton said, "Swish." When Archer made the game winning bank.

I haven't seen Archer that pumped up in years.

I've seen more character development in these two weeks than I have in years of watching pool. Just Loving every minute of it.
 
New Coach ??

Shannon Daulton just hit an epic shot at at Mach 5 for the win to go into halftime and not one person has kicked the back of my seat yet. :)

Did you see where Hunter had to roll the purple the last game. Corey tells Hunter to lag the ball up off of the head rail and leave the purple near their side rail? The whole time Parica tries to stop them from shooting the shot. Hunter shoots what Corey tells him to. He misses the spot Corey tells him to hit by a foot and splits the pocket. Parica finally loses it. To begin with it was a tough spot to be in. The orange was about 1 inch out of the opposite pocket. I think the only shot was to kick 2 rails up under the orange and try to get it out. I think that was what Parica was in a rush to say, But with the clock almost out, He pulls the trigger. Loss of match !
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I know Corey is the straightest shooter on that team, I know he just won the Snooker event. And I really know Parica should be the coach of the team.
He has been 1 of the best 1 Pocket players on the planet before these guys were born.
Nice to see Parica show some emotion. With Parica as coach, I think this would be a better team. What do you think Jose ? lol !!!!!!!!!!:groucho:
 
With a Sat Dish and a million movies to watch every night, no need to go out.

Two weeks after its at the theater, its on the Dish. Home made pop corn is better than that over priced crap they sell at the theater. The beer is cold. The surround system works great.

Then there is Project Free TV with 10 years of free movies. Net Flix.

If I decide to go to the theater, I don't pay for them anyway, its free.

Probably have 15 movie passes for two on my debit card by now. Hardly ever use them.

10 bucks will buy a hit of acid. Go to the hall the the balls will change colors by themselves.
 
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See what I did there? What you did in effect. Compare the actual entertainment and the actual price of those entertainments, not the cost of the steak you ate at some steak restaurant before you went to the movie...

Ok.

Let's compare the actual prices of the entertainments.

Five matches of bonus ball at 2 hours per match (I'm rounding down) = 10 hours of entertainment for $10. That's $1/hr.

One 2 hour movie for $12 (I'm using matinee prices). That's $6/hr.

See what I did there? What you asked me to do...:thumbup:

Much respect,

Taek
 
Did you see where Hunter had to roll the purple the last game. Corey tells Hunter to lag the ball up off of the head rail and leave the purple near their side rail? The whole time Parica tries to stop them from shooting the shot. Hunter shoots what Corey tells him to. He misses the spot Corey tells him to hit by a foot and splits the pocket. Parica finally loses it. To begin with it was a tough spot to be in. The orange was about 1 inch out of the opposite pocket. I think the only shot was to kick 2 rails up under the orange and try to get it out. I think that was what Parica was in a rush to say, But with the clock almost out, He pulls the trigger. Loss of match !
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I know Corey is the straightest shooter on that team, I know he just won the Snooker event. And I really know Parica should be the coach of the team.
He has been 1 of the best 1 Pocket players on the planet before these guys were born.
Nice to see Parica show some emotion. With Parica as coach, I think this would be a better team. What do you think Jose ? lol !!!!!!!!!!:groucho:

I saw that. I liked the shot selection of tying up the bonus ball but I agreed with the pro commentator who liked putting the bonus ball in the same spot without going anywhere near the pocket.

Trying to kick the orange out is a huge risk because it was deep in there and if it falls in they are guaranteed ball in hand with the orange spotted and the bonus ball out in the open.

I've been watching Parica and I can see he is not in his element. He is ranked 31st out of 37 players with stats.
 
Ok.

Let's compare the actual prices of the entertainments.

Five matches of bonus ball at 2 hours per match (I'm rounding down) = 10 hours of entertainment for $10. That's $1/hr.

One 2 hour movie for $12 (I'm using matinee prices). That's $6/hr.

See what I did there? What you asked me to do...:thumbup:

Much respect,

Taek

In fact that is a much mroe useful addition to the conversation and has alot more merit to the Bonus Ball side of things.
 
When I see Bonus Ball tables being set up in local rooms and bars, I will believe it is a hit. Not before. So far, I have only seen evidence of it hurting what little pool there is in this country.

I think you need to be a Philadelphia lawyer to interpret the rules. They need to go back over those rules with the KISS principle in mind. I also think that anyone that plays Bonus Ball for a significant period is going to lose some ability where other cue games are concerned. I like to see Pro's let out their stroke and make good runs/outs.

If you've ever played golf on a snooker table and then went back to playing snooker on that table - you will surely understand what I mean about losing some abiity. Bonus Ball looks like a game destined to stifle your stroke and keep you confused.

I think you are seeing a one, maybe two, season sport that will fade from memory in a few years. At least in the USA.

I would rather they put in a proper snooker table or several such tables and gave that game a needed shot in the arm - or even 10 ball played with a similar setup, monetary commitment, and amount of hype. A new, wild and crazy game isn't what's needed in the pool world - IMHO.

What sponsors has Bonus Ball accumulated so far?
 
I dont know what all these people are beefing about with this game, i watched it for the first time and enjoyed the hell out of it. Now this is without knowing all the rules and whatnot, i still liked it. Whats not to like ? Its team pool, thats a good concept to start with for those that are tired of watching individual events.
A guy who i work with went to a match last week and saw me and started raving about it. He comes up to me and says "T, i know youre a pool player but i went and watched something that i know youre going to love and i only play occasionally". Before he could finish, i said "Bonus Ball". And he started laughing and said "I should have known you would know about it"
Anyway, i like it just from watching it on youtube and cant wait to go see a match live.
Oh, and my buddy said he talked to a few of the players and they were as helpful as can be and gave him a tour of the facility.
I hope they do really well with this and hats off to all involved.

The guys who are against it would have probably been against inventing the wheel if they were alive at that time, saying "This will never work". :)
 
When we go to the theatre tickets on evening shows are $ 12.95 each. Popcorn and drinks, another $ 20.00 . I think the price of not leaving your home and being able to watch BB all weekend for $ 9.95 is not so bad. I say this because if you learn the rules and scoring, get to know the players, It is very entertaining to watch.


My point being, if you are on the fence here. Give this game a chance, It is very entertaining and fun to watch. Much, Much cheaper than going out.

Good Luck to BB Gary Lutman ;)

Isn't this kind of an Apples to Oranges comparison that you're making on the cost? You're talking about going out to a theater (movie) as compared to sitting at home (BB). If you watch a movie at home it's not going to cost you $33.00 or even $9.95 (and that's after you make your own popcorn). So in reality isn't BB actually more expensive to watch at home?
Now, how much is it going to cost you if you fly out to Vegas and pay for a couple of seats to watch BB live... or even (as if you ever could) watch it at a theater on the big screen?

BB would cost more no matter how you slice it so this isn't really a good argument if you are trying to boost interest in the game.
Personally, I don't think that any billiards game that is this hard for the weekend warriors to play on their own will ever keep a huge following very long. It's not too hard from a shooting aspect and the concept of the game has a lot of appeal. But when you have to keep stopping and placing balls yourself, keeping up with scores, and basically remembering every little thing that the pros don't have to deal with, then it's very interrupting on someones focus while shooting.
Don't get me wrong, right now I am enjoying BB (mostly because it is something new and challenging). But (for me) it's going to get old in time. I've tried playing it with others and it's just too distracting without automatic scorekeepers and ball placers to keep the shooter shooting. It's not like 14.1 where you just slide some beads once in a while.

Good luck to BB from me as well
... but if you're investing $$$ in it, I'd do it now while it's fresh and hot... and be ready to get out quick when it starts to fall off. People like to play the stuff that they watch. Like golf and other agility sports they strive to equal themselves to the pros. If you (or a family member) isn't a player of a particular game of competition, you're not as likely to watch that game a lot over the course of years (when it's not so new any longer). Although it would probably hold it's popularity a bit longer if it ever made it big enough to draw major advertisers and broadcast to the masses without a fee. Start charging to watch golf tournaments and see how quickly that sport starts to loose some of it's appeal... or live streaming PPV of bowling or even the Olympics for that matter.
 
I agree. It is more fun for me to watch this game than it is to play for the reasons you stated. Constantly moving around and spotting a ball and updating my score over and over are not fun for me. I like one pocket more, where I can spend most of my time at one end of the table. :cool:
 
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