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Texas Carom Club said:
your '' female'' champion

harriet (( harry)) haynes
2023 Champion of Champions Ladies Winner - Harriet Haynes (Surrey)
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Kim Bye said:
I understand that in some sport if you're male or female makes a big difference, but does this biological difference make a difference in sports like pool and dart? My initial thoughts is that it doesn't, but at elite level every little thing counts, so I might be wrong.
It would be interesting to hear what a female elite player think about the situation.
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Every time this comes up someone posts what you posted.

So, we have 150+yrs of results that have almost no women competing on par with the guys, vs. twenty years of this question.

The results speak for themselves, loudly. Sex makes a difference. Testosterone is linked to aggressiveness.

As for strength, that is only one part off the equation. The accuracy vs. effort is the real difference. The average male is about twice as strong as the average female. This means that a man uses about half the effort on any stroke. It is easier to be very accurate when one uses less effort. Any pool player knows this from their own experience.
 
We used to have Anne “the Man” Mayes in Houston - RIP. She was well liked by most. She played in all the men’s and open event. I think she used to also play in the ladies events now that I think about it and I do t recall it ever being an issue. She also made custom cues - Annie O Cues.
 
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Island Drive said:
Some men that are ''men'' that prefer women actually have small breasts from birth.
Seems like all he would have to do is, purchase a push up bra, wear a wig, shave twice a day and play both sides of the court.
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this is actually more true than you think. they don't have to cut off their junk to be defined as transgender/woman as it's a matter of (what they call) self-identification. it's not like the english pool association has checked what she's packing.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
Every time this comes up someone posts what you posted.

So, we have 150+yrs of results that have almost no women competing on par with the guys, vs. twenty years of this question.

The results speak for themselves, loudly. Sex makes a difference. Testosterone is linked to aggressiveness.

As for strength, that is only one part off the equation. The accuracy vs. effort is the real difference. The average male is about twice as strong as the average female. This means that a man uses about half the effort on any stroke. It is easier to be very accurate when one uses less effort. Any pool player knows this from their own experience.
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More than the physical strength differences, one psychological difference comes into play in cue sports quite a bit...

When it comes to focus, men are much much better at 'tunnel vision' and narrowing their concentration in a hectic environment. Women tend to have more persistent awareness of their surroundings and less ability to just shut things out and focus on the table.

There are also differences in how singularly focused on careers men get compared to women. Men generally are willing to sacrifice more of their time and energy in pursuit of success. In pool, this translates to longer, harder practice hours which stack up over time. Obv this isn't an all men vs all women statement, but just as all men aren't stronger than all women, on average, men can narrow their focus more easily and are more willing to sacrifice other aspects of their lives in pursuit of success in their chosen field.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
Every time this comes up someone posts what you posted.

So, we have 150+yrs of results that have almost no women competing on par with the guys, vs. twenty years of this question.

The results speak for themselves, loudly. Sex makes a difference. Testosterone is linked to aggressiveness.

As for strength, that is only one part off the equation. The accuracy vs. effort is the real difference. The average male is about twice as strong as the average female. This means that a man uses about half the effort on any stroke. It is easier to be very accurate when one uses less effort. Any pool player knows this from their own experience.
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Totally agree... mostly with the effort part. For most females (99%) it just isn't possible for them to hit some extreme shots (draw,follow,etc) with total accuracy because they are hitting with almost 100% of their power. While in contrast and good (mid 600s) level male can get the same results with an 80% effort hit purely because of average strength. Top females can pot just as good as any male player, but not when they have to level up the speed. The drop off in accuracy is always evident. There might be 3 woman in the world that are an exception to this.

As for males being better ... If I was to "switch" I would immediately become a top 60 player IN THE WORLD based on my Fargo rating (635ish)... while I'm a slightly above average local player.
 
eastcoast_chris said:
Totally agree... mostly with the effort part. For most females (99%) it just isn't possible for them to hit some extreme shots (draw,follow,etc) with total accuracy because they are hitting with almost 100% of their power. While in contrast and good (mid 600s) level male can get the same results with an 80% effort hit purely because of average strength. Top females can pot just as good as any male player, but not when they have to level up the speed. The drop off in accuracy is always evident. There might be 3 woman in the world that are an exception to this.

As for males being better ... If I was to "switch" I would immediately become a top 60 player IN THE WORLD based on my Fargo rating (635ish)... while I'm a slightly above average local player.
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I'd be the highest fargo rated female in the US! Dammit, now I'm considering it...
 
Kim Bye said:
I understand that in some sport if you're male or female makes a big difference, but does this biological difference make a difference in sports like pool and dart? My initial thoughts is that it doesn't, but at elite level every little thing counts, so I might be wrong.
It would be interesting to hear what a female elite player think about the situation.
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In darts only Fallon Sherrock gives it a go against the guys and does pretty well, but she's not winning any ranking events with men.
 
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