I agree with the fact that follow through is not physically needed (in terms of cue and cueball relationship) to develop a good stroke, but I am agree with you that it is consecuence of a good stroke. I always though that if you don't follow through correctly you are rushing the cue stopping, unwittingly you are thinking about stop the cue before the cue contacts the cueball, and that usually affects the impact.
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I agree with the fact that follow through is not physically needed (in terms of cue and cueball relationship) to develop a good stroke, but I am agree with you that it is consecuence of a good stroke. I always though that if you don't follow through correctly you are rushing the cue stopping, unwittingly you are thinking about stop the cue before the cue contacts the cueball, and that usually affects the impact.
Timing is controlling your stroke so that you hit the cue ball at the most efficient point possible. Perscribing the same perpendicular to the floor point to everyone, I believe, is an overgeneralization. It might turn out that your forearm is perpendicular when your stroke is at max velocity, but it also might not. It is most important to experiment and find the ideal timing of your stroke at any given speed.
Muscle coordination is coordinating your muscles so they work with each othe when creating movement of the cue rather than against eachother. The most important and easily tuneable point is the back-forward transition. Here, you should not simply make sure that you are pausing or whatever, but more importantly that your muscles are transitioning in an ideal way to make the cue move forward rather than backward.
the thing is it is all of the things afore mentioned wrapped up into one,it starts out to be a conscious effort when you are learning it but after you do it daily for years it becomes and unconscious effort. That shot that Corey shoots he cuts it a little but also has a lot of throw on the ball to get the cueball to come back like that. Now we are openning up a new can of worms,throwing object balls,Nick Varner doesnt think that an OB is thrown,i believe he thinks the cueball curves like a masse and hits the ball at a different spot then what you are aiming. Maybe both is what i think. If you freeze the CB to an OB i can use english and throw it almost a whole diamond over 9 ft, and the balls are frozen so it has no chance to curve into the OB. Draw still goes back to several factors,tip radius,softness,follow thru,(so you stay down and thru the shot),loosening your grip like a batter or golfer does to get whip in the wrist,lowering the bridge hand instead of elevating the cue,keeping the bridge hand closer to the CB for hit accuracy and then many hours of practice,and confidence in your ability and staying down and thru the shot,quick acceleration and timing.
Follow through allows you to steer the cb if you go down a bit off the aim, that is if you look at ob last.
Unconscious play is not possible. Pros always make decisions about every shot, true they think quick but with wide open consiouse.
He was talking about the stroke, and is absolutely correct in saying that pros don't think about theirs during a match.
TheThaiger
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I think Alan Hopkins poke stroke is a good example of how the follow through does not affect the cueball after impact.
A follow through is the result of a stroke, not the cause of it.
A follow through is the result of a stroke, not the cause of it.
Actually, I think it may be more of an example of how it may be the most or only important part of a stroke. There sure aren't any other elements of a stroke present.
If you look closely, he does follow through, albeit no more than need be.
Amazing and sad that know matter how many times some are told the truth, shown videos of the science of a stroke, have a stroke broken down and explained to them, they still believe absolutely backwards like you do. And with no evidence of their belief other than "I think this is what happens".
Please explain how I can stop someones stroke 1/8"-1/4" (total distance tip is in contact with the ball) after impact and have ZERO effect on the outcome of the shot if it is all in the followthrough.
So how much follow through is needed?
Strokes like Hopkins which MAY be a ball width, or stroke like Earls which could be as long as 12 inches?
If you think about it maybe you well understand that both accomplish the task, and neither is better than the other, and none of them really matter in terms of what the cue ball does after contact.
Strokes like Hopkins which MAY be a ball width, or stroke like Earls which could be as long as 12 inches?
If you think about it maybe you well understand that both accomplish the task, and neither is better than the other, and none of them really matter in terms of what the cue ball does after contact.
May not make sense but. Get off the top of the cue ball and go center down as much as possible.
Hit the ball heavy... life changes for the better....hit the ball low is the way to go... Center Low follow,spin is a wonderful thing.
Heavy is your friend
Hit the ball heavy... life changes for the better....hit the ball low is the way to go... Center Low follow,spin is a wonderful thing.
Heavy is your friend
TheThaiger
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Why is the system of follow-through virtually numero uno on the list of priorities for EVERY SINGLE snooker coach on planet earth?
Dey all wrong, yeah?
Follow through is more important for the beginning of a stroke not the ending
Great stroking?
A lot of great replies (and some not so great). The best one, IMO, was the first.
I don't blame him for initially being short and to the point because a lot of factors are involved.
I've read several posts from Masayosi, and even played him once. Listen to him. This man has learned his lessons well.
A lot of great replies (and some not so great). The best one, IMO, was the first.
I don't blame him for initially being short and to the point because a lot of factors are involved.
I've read several posts from Masayosi, and even played him once. Listen to him. This man has learned his lessons well.
If your definition of follow though is to drop your elbow, then the only benefit is that it may likely prohibit the player from having a decelerated stroke. Of course, this can also be accomplished without any elbow drop.
There's a misconception among players/instructors that you have to drop your elbow to follow through. When in reality, as long as you accelerate smoothly from backswing to finish, then you have your follow through. Whether it's 2" or 10", will make no difference.
For anyone that wants to argue otherwise, all I ask is that you simply proof otherwise.
Yeah, I liked this reply a lot myself. Same can apply to a great swing in baseball. This is definitely a topic that will create much debate. I'm not sure where people are coming from when they say follow through has nothing to do with a great stroke. Try playing 3C without follow through. I'm also a strong believer in the intangibles such as natural ability.
I have seen videos that have certain camera angles where it can be seen pro or pro level players dont have a laser straight stroke. I think it is important to have a consistent stroke and most importantly you must still be accelerating at point of tip contact.