Guiness World Record

iba7467 said:
...1 player with ball in hand might however roll the 9 to a pocket for a combo by the next player after receiving ball-in-hand for the foul.
Is there anything to prevent you from doing this ALL THE TIME? In other words, after each and every break the player at the table would immediately commit an intentional foul such that the other player has BIH. Then this player would then nudge the 9 close to the pocket (if the resulting 9 isn't close enough to the pocket, then the other player with BIH would nudge it closer, and so on), then finish the rack off with a combo on the 9.

If that's allowed, each game can be played in a minute's time or less, and 1000 games can be accomplished within a single day.

But would you really want to break the record in such a way such that you totally take away from the spirit of the 9 ball game? I guess if you purely want the record, then why not?
 
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jsp said:
Is there anything to prevent you from doing this ALL THE TIME? In other words, after each and every break the player at the table would immediately commit an intentional foul such that the other player has BIH. Then this player would then nudge the 9 close to the pocket (if the resulting 9 isn't close enough to the pocket, then the other player with BIH would nudge it closer, and so on), then finish the rack off with a combo on the 9.

If that's allowed, each game can be played in a minute's time or less, and 1000 games can be accomplished within a single day.

But would you really want to break the record in such a way such that you totally take away from the spirit of the 9 ball game? I guess if you purely want the record, then why not?

As I mentioned before, we intend on playing each rack as though trying to run out. This hanging up the nine is only if one of us were hooked, or the table to clustered. I have no idea how often it might come up, but no likely to make much difference. I brought it up before that, other than not playing defense, this would be the only way we would allow shortening games.
 
I would greatly appreciate any assistance anyone might be able to give as to how to attain sponsorship for this event. We will gladly wear gear, hang banners, give credit to all available sponsors, etc.

I have not already done this due to the lack of support we have been able to attain. I would gladly include a reputable charity and/or non-profit organization to further ensure the sincerity of our efforts.

Any suggestions welcome, thanks.
 
iba7467 said:
As I mentioned before, we intend on playing each rack as though trying to run out. This hanging up the nine is only if one of us were hooked, or the table to clustered. I have no idea how often it might come up, but no likely to make much difference. I brought it up before that, other than not playing defense, this would be the only way we would allow shortening games.
I'm sure you would try to run out every time to keep honor in the record.

My question was more if Guiness would allow such a record if you play each rack that way. Technically, they would each be very valid games of 9ball. Would Guiness give you a stipulation indicating you must give an honest effort to run out each open rack?

If they don't, I'd encourage you that you make Guiness state such a rule in writing. Otherwise, your record might get obliterated by a couple of punk bangers (such as myself :)) only a couple days after you set the record. ;)
 
iba7467 said:
I would greatly appreciate any assistance anyone might be able to give as to how to attain sponsorship for this event. We will gladly wear gear, hang banners, give credit to all available sponsors, etc.

I have not already done this due to the lack of support we have been able to attain. I would gladly include a reputable charity and/or non-profit organization to further ensure the sincerity of our efforts.

Any suggestions welcome, thanks.

hi,

first of all, i like the idea!! :D
after checking theone's website, it would be a good idea to have the rackers or opponents pay for 10games. the money would be used for the good cause. im sure anyone would be ready to donate 10$ for 10games. so you would have at least 1000$ just from the opponents.

i have some questions.
having spend many straight hours not sleeping, i was wondering what the longest time is you ever stayed awake in a row? my personal best is 74hours, but i wouldnt be able to play 9ball in that state of mind. it would take WELL over 5min to play a game of 9ball after 36hours.

what is your physical health? do you sport often? is your body used to big effors? (running long distances etc..)

i would advice to search for a medical team to assist you too. you arms will HURT as hell. ive played 24h this summer, and its HARD!!

just some ideas
 
Solartje said:
hi,

first of all, i like the idea!! :D
after checking theone's website, it would be a good idea to have the rackers or opponents pay for 10games. the money would be used for the good cause. im sure anyone would be ready to donate 10$ for 10games. so you would have at least 1000$ just from the opponents.

i have some questions.
having spend many straight hours not sleeping, i was wondering what the longest time is you ever stayed awake in a row? my personal best is 74hours, but i wouldnt be able to play 9ball in that state of mind. it would take WELL over 5min to play a game of 9ball after 36hours.

what is your physical health? do you sport often? is your body used to big effors? (running long distances etc..)

i would advice to search for a medical team to assist you too. you arms will HURT as hell. ive played 24h this summer, and its HARD!!

just some ideas

Awake likely 72 hours.
Playing pool 45 hours.
Physical health is perfect and more preparations will be made physically as we near the date.

I do like the donation of money for games. My concern is only that this could not maintain late into the night or constantly either. I have an opponent for this event by which we would share the record.

I also thought of a guess-the-total (shots, exact time, wins per player - something with alot of variables)with half-the proceeds going to charity. Half going to the closest answer.
 
Already have rackers arranged. This is set to be done on 2 tables so that 1 can be racked at all times. Consecutive leads to questions about starting another rack prior to finishing the first. Otherwise we might consider most non-stop 9ball games, meaning we could play on a multitude of tables and finish numerous games without stopping... but this brings more health concerns with the additional space covered.
 
Sorry if this has already been asked, but I'm assuming that the definition of the Guinness challenge includes a very specific set of rules that must be followed? I mean, not just the rules of 9-ball, but some additional rules that define the challenge?

My concern is, if the game rules include the three-foul rule, what would prevent someone from playing a very high number of racks in a very short period of time by simply three-fouling every game? Two players could stand at the table at the same time, each successively fouling by touching their tip to the cb, and every fifth foul would be loss of game for one of the players. No racking (except for the initial one, of course) or breaking would be required, as the cueball would never actually touch another ball. Even if there were a provision requiring a "real" break, the players could do the three-foul thing right after the break, cutting the game time down to under 30 seconds per rack. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that you do this, I'm just wondering if there are rules in place that might prevent someone else from breaking your record using this or some other strange method. It would just be disappointing to see someone break your record in a fraction of the time it took you to set it. :(

Good luck,

Aaron
 
Aaron_S said:
Sorry if this has already been asked, but I'm assuming that the definition of the Guinness challenge includes a very specific set of rules that must be followed? I mean, not just the rules of 9-ball, but some additional rules that define the challenge?

My concern is, if the game rules include the three-foul rule, what would prevent someone from playing a very high number of racks in a very short period of time by simply three-fouling every game? Two players could stand at the table at the same time, each successively fouling by touching their tip to the cb, and every fifth foul would be loss of game for one of the players. No racking (except for the initial one, of course) or breaking would be required, as the cueball would never actually touch another ball. Even if there were a provision requiring a "real" break, the players could do the three-foul thing right after the break, cutting the game time down to under 30 seconds per rack. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that you do this, I'm just wondering if there are rules in place that might prevent someone else from breaking your record using this or some other strange method. It would just be disappointing to see someone break your record in a fraction of the time it took you to set it. :(

Good luck,

Aaron

Personally, I would hope anyone who knows enough about pool to know the three foul rule wouldn't cheapen the sport by pulling a stunt like that. This would also mean that they played the most consecutive Texas Express 9 ball games which rather cheapens it by adding restrictions don't you think???
 
iba7467 said:
Personally, I would hope anyone who knows enough about pool to know the three foul rule wouldn't cheapen the sport by pulling a stunt like that. This would also mean that they played the most consecutive Texas Express 9 ball games which rather cheapens it by adding restrictions don't you think???

Well, opinions vary on the three-foul rule, but I'm just talking specifically about the Guinness challenge. In the end it simply comes down to having your name on that page of the Guinness book... or not. If there are no specific rules on how the challenge must be carried out, then wouldn't you think someone would eventually try to use a "cheap" method to break the record? I think someone would at least try it; I mean, why spend three days breaking a record that you can break in 1 day?

Again, I'm simply playing the Devil's advocate here, as I would sincerely hate to see a valid record broken in what I would consider to be an invalid way. I just hope there are rules in place that will prevent that from happening.

Best of luck,

Aaron
 
Record

Still looking for solid sponsorship.

Also open to any member-chosen charity to support if possible.
 
iba7467 said:
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Also open to any member-chosen charity to support if possible.
If you want local people to participate, get a local charity. They will help get the word out. One pool-related charity is the BEF for junior players -- donations are tax deductible (501(c)3).
 
New Addition

Would anyone, especially pool halls be interested in a promotion to bring in players.

To kick off our efforts to set a new consecutive game record we like to try to have the most consecutive racks broken at the same time. Every pool hall/individual could simultaneously break on every available table. Good records and time keeping would be necessary.
 
I'd use a 16 or 17 ounce cue....after that period of time, it will really add up. Good luck with this!
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