HALF-BALL HIT --part 2 -- youtube

Thanks...

Mike, every time you post people on the forum go bed wiser.
Thanks from those of us who are as interested in the "why" of it as well as the "how" of it.
 
Great stuff again, Mike. I learn something new every time you post a video.

When is the feature length compilation of Professor Fargo's Gems due out?

pj
chgo
 
man , you a probably the most interesting poster in some time here !

i loved the first one, and thought... what else could he tell me, and now this.
BIG reps for you sir !!

can't wait to buy you instructional dvd !!
 
Some day I would like to meet Mike and perform a Vulcan mind meld on him to snatch all that knowledge! :D

Mike you have a very technical, yet simple to understand way of getting the point accross.

Watching your stuff I realize I have been calling myself a "feel" player all these years knowing there is an explaination for why it all works, but I've been too lazy to go out and hunt down the reasoning. I personally don't know what process I use to aim, but the 2 vids on 1/2 ball hits just made something click.

thanks, Gerry
 
this is some of the most well explained and accurate information on pool i've seen in awhile. awesome job mike!
 
Prediction

mikepage said:
Here is part 2 of a discussion of the importance of the half-ball hit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vRi3Jih1Lg

(and here's part 1 if you haven't seen it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zysbWeI2_ZE
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My prediction is that Mike Page will become one of the best if not THE BEST BCA INSTRUCTOR in the country within one year of this date.

Mike already has shown incredible ability to explain important concepts in pool which everyone needs to know if you want to maximize your ability to play your best. His YouTube video instructions are unparallelled.

Now for the negatives: You can't hit any balls with my Bender Cue. You whack the side of your cues far too often in moving the cue ball or object balls around in your video. You must have an elf working full time to take the dents out of your shafts.

Also, you are a very lucky fellow, making that half ball hit carom off of the object ball in the middle of the table several times in a row, half of them with no bridge. Just lucky. :D

Good work on both videos.

JoeyA (wants a pool lesson from Mike Page)
 
JoeyA said:
My prediction [...]
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Whoa... Easy there bro....

While I do hope to develop into a credible instructor, I think it's gonna take a little more experience than that to start runnin with the big boys....

But thank you Joey. I appreciate the kind words.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Great stuff again, Mike. I learn something new every time you post a video.

When is the feature length compilation of Professor Fargo's Gems due out?

pj
chgo
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A full-length feature film?

Well I don't know if I'm ready for that inevitable knock-down drag out with
Catholic Church...

And then there's the Dems in Congress, who get all bent out of shape if you just erase a film or two....

I think I'll just stick with an occasional youtube thingy ;-)
 
JoeyA said:
[...] You can't hit any balls with my Bender Cue. You whack the side of your cues far too often in moving the cue ball or object balls around in your video. You must have an elf working full time to take the dents out of your shafts.
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lol... I keep a steam kettle on the burner. Works great for dent removal, but those vice-grip teeth marks are buggers...
 
Mike,
Very nice video, very well presented.

I wonder if there should be a Gem #5. I believe Koehler shows that there is a larger allowable error on the the half ball hit, than on more extreme full or cut shots (I don't have my book with me to check this). For this reason I have always tried to set up my spot shots for a half ball hit; believing it offers slightly more forgiveness than a fuller hit that many use.
 
Seer Of 2008

mikepage said:
Whoa... Easy there bro....

While I do hope to develop into a credible instructor, I think it's gonna take a little more experience than that to start runnin with the big boys....

But thank you Joey. I appreciate the kind words.
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Well, get to it Mike. You're famous now and you must consistently make a better performance each time you go out. Looking forward to your next video.

You have less than 12 months left to make me the
SEER OF THE YEAR. :D

Good luck,

JoeyA
 
Williebetmore said:
... there is a larger allowable error on the the half ball hit...
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I think that's wrong. The difficulty of a cut depends on the inverse of the cosine of the cut angle, which means a full shot has the largest margin for error in terms of the angle you can send the cue ball along. This is a very simple geometrical relationship, and unless there is some other phenomenon that's not obvious, you should choose the fuller shot. Shot difficulty as determined by distance and cut angle is discussed in the article http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/1994-04.pdf
 
Bob Jewett said:
I think that's wrong. The difficulty of a cut depends on the inverse of the cosine of the cut angle, which means a full shot has the largest margin for error in terms of the angle you can send the cue ball along. This is a very simple geometrical relationship, and unless there is some other phenomenon that's not obvious, you should choose the fuller shot. Shot difficulty as determined by distance and cut angle is discussed in the article http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/1994-04.pdf
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BJ,
Thanks for the input. I'll look up the Koehler reference tomorrow and get back to you...I was nearly positive that he showed a larger allowable error for the half-ball hit.....but of course I still have to keep a day job.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I think that's wrong. The difficulty of a cut depends on the inverse of the cosine of the cut angle, which means a full shot has the largest margin for error in terms of the angle you can send the cue ball along. This is a very simple geometrical relationship, and unless there is some other phenomenon that's not obvious, you should choose the fuller shot. Shot difficulty as determined by distance and cut angle is discussed in the article http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/1994-04.pdf
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And for the record, Koehler in his book says you should choose the fuller shot (from a comfortable few inches off the side rail) if you play a lot. But if you're a weekend warrrier, then the benefit of the half-ball hit aim might win out for the slightly harder shot it entails.
 
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