Handicapped tournament, suggestions needed…

[cbi1000]

I want to put on a cheap pool tournament, $20 entry with $5 green fee. I want to get as many players as possible so I figured a handicapped tournament might do the trick.

Here is my issue, what should the race be? Due to the low entry fee I want this tournament to be fun and at the same time as fair as can be. I don’t want super long races, but long enough for players to feel like they played some.
Here is what I was thinking:
Masters = 6 games
Open= 4 games
Women (master or open) = 4 games
I was thinking 7-5 race would favor the master too much and a 5-3 race would favor the open too much. Does 6-4 sound good?

Let me know what you think,

Thanks,

 

[CreeDo]

Sounds about right.

 

[cbi1000]

Thanks, there will be $500 added to this little thing.

Anymore suggestions?

 

[cigardave]

Handicapped tournaments... handicapped leagues... both breed resentment because SOMEONE will always complain that they are being treated unfairly.

Make your tournament an Open one... the hell with handicapping.

 

[Donny]

At the Billiard Den in Dallas, they have a 9-ball tournament and women get the 8-ball.

You would probably have to have the same tournament for all players. You could rank some of the regular players and the strong players would have to win more games than the weaker players. New or unknown players or women would probably have to start out at a lower rank, getting games on the wire from the other established players.

If you're playing 8-ball you'd probably just give weaker players games on the wire vs strong players. If it's 9-ball, you could give a weaker player the 8 or the 7 against a stronger player. Maybe more weight than that if necessary.

The tricky part is to figure out how to rank all of the players.

I want to put on a cheap pool tournament, $20 entry with $5 green fee. I want to get as many players as possible so I figured a handicapped tournament might do the trick.

Here is my issue, what should the race be? Due to the low entry fee I want this tournament to be fun and at the same time as fair as can be. I don’t want super long races, but long enough for players to feel like they played some.
Here is what I was thinking:
Masters = 6 games
Open= 4 games
Women (master or open) = 4 games
I was thinking 7-5 race would favor the master too much and a 5-3 race would favor the open too much. Does 6-4 sound good?

Let me know what you think,

Thanks,

 

[Donny]

Handicapped tournaments... handicapped leagues... both breed resentment because SOMEONE will always complain that they are being treated unfairly.

Make your tournament an Open one... the hell with handicapping.

Then the weak players get discouraged and don't want to play, and less people play in the tournament.

 

[cbi1000]

Then the weak players get discouraged and don't want to play, and less people play in the tournament.

Exactly, i'm trying to get all players in the door. I know i can't make everyone happy, I'm trying to find a place that is acceptable to most.

thanks

 

[Donny]

Exactly, i'm trying to get all players in the door. I know i can't make everyone happy, I'm trying to find a place that is acceptable to most.

thanks

When I was in Yokohama, Japan, there was a pool room that had handicapped 9-ball tournaments. You could be either ranked 2, 3, or 4 if I remember correctly. Weak players and new players were ranked 2. Slightly better players were ranked . The strongest players were ranked 4. Whatever you were ranked, that's how many games you had to win. Maybe you could have a system like that?

 

[Lea A]

I think spotting balls is better than games on the wire. A local weekly tourney has a max spot of four games AND the eight in a race to 7 (ranks people from I think 4 to 14) -- WAY too much...

I would loosely base a person's skill level on his or her APA or other league handicap, if applicable, and figure out a formula that has a max spot of maybe the six-out (I'm talking someone who can barely hold a pool cue vs. an A player) in a race to six or seven. At least make the player have to WIN a game (i.e. pocket a ball) to win a game...might keep the higher-level players happier...

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

It is impossible to put on a fair handicapped tourney.

Most of the time if you are playing A's, B's, and C's in the same event the "A" win the event. Kolby's in Tempe did a 1K add wild ball event was it a month or two ago, it was won by an "A"!