Have fun identifying this old Palmer

[our_auctionguy]

Have fun identifying this old Palmer-See More Pics n Later Thread

I picked up an older Palmer cue a while back just because I had never seen one like it and was not having any luck finding any reference to one like it. Regardless of what some may think, it is a real Palmer. Has anyone ever seen or owned one like it?? It is solid Rosewood with a Brass Joint and what I believe to be a white/green Cortland Linen wrap like the old Balabushkas. I could be mistaken on this, but it just seems to be heavier, more rounded, and less compressable than the Irish linen I have on my other cues.

I have played with this cue and it hits really solid. Just thought I would put these pics up for fun.

The sticker says:
Custom made by
PALMER
BILLIARD COPORATION
ELIZABETH NJ 07263

The first one to positively identify it and the approximate year date of manufacture with undeniable proof wll receive a free Kamui tip in the hardness of their choice.

This should be a cinch for you Eastern Seaborders.... or Not??

 

[cuenut]

Just wait for Chris Tate to chime in. He may not be the first one with the correct answer, but he will provide the correct answer, and you should be able to take his word as virtual gospel on older Palmers.

 

[TATE]

Just wait for Chris Tate to chime in. He may not be the first one with the correct answer, but he will provide the correct answer, and you should be able to take his word as virtual gospel on older Palmers.

Sorry, I don't recognize it either. I've seen that same sticker on some other Palmers. It is one of the original company labels. I have one with the same sticker and my impression is that it was in the 1980's. They used to imprint cues that didn't have a window. They used the sticker on unlabeled cues because the imprint required a lot of pressure and was cracking some buttcaps.

I've asked a couple of other collectors to look at it - we'll see what they say.

Chris

 

[our_auctionguy]

That didn't take long.... considering you were one of the one's who I sent pics of this back when I got it. Chris, if no one else can prove otherise in, then you be getting that Kamui tip I promised. Funny how things go full circle, huh? So... would you say this was made in USA or imported? I had a seyance with Eugene Balner and he gave me the answer to this question, I just need to check your credentials . lol

 

[wjpjr]

My money is on it being one of the cues Adams made for palmer .
Bill

 

[our_auctionguy]

My money is on it being one of the cues Adams made for palmer .
Bill

That one I think I can dispell because the joint screw is a rounded Palmer screw like one's of old and not pointed like Adam of the same genre. I have had a couple older and newer Adam cues and none have had joint or butt screws like this. The butt has a hex nut screw head. The old Adam cues had a flat slotted screw as a butt weight if I recall correctly.

 

[TATE]

That one I think I can dispell because the joint screw is a rounded Palmer screw like one's of old and not pointed like Adam of the same genre. I have had a couple older and newer Adam cues and none have had joint or butt screws like this. The butt has a hex nut screw head. The old Adam cues had a flat slotted screw as a butt weight if I recall correctly.

It's probably a custom Palmer, like the sticker says, but Adam also went to a rounded pin in the mid 1970's and they're almost identical to Palmer's. I could date the cue better if I could see a close up of the joint on the butt and shaft. I need to see the thickness of the joint wall and the insert style used on the shaft. It would help to see a pick of the butt with the bumper removed.


Chris

 

[our_auctionguy]

It's probably a custom Palmer, like the sticker says, but Adam also went to a rounded pin in the mid 1970's and they're almost identical to Palmer's. I could date the cue better if I could see a close up of the joint on the butt and shaft. I need to see the thickness of the joint wall and the insert style used on the shaft. It would help to see a pick of the butt with the bumper removed.


Chris

I will try to post all of those pics tonight when I get a chance to take some more pics.

Thanks.
Larry

 

[our_auctionguy]

Here are the Joint and Butt Pics I promised

I am questioning whether the shaft goes with this cue. It appears the brass insert is similar to the old Brunswick Willie Hoppes inserts and it is void of the white ring seen on the butt joint.

 

[TATE]

I am questioning whether the shaft goes with this cue. It appears the brass insert is similar to the old Brunswick Willie Hoppes inserts and it is void of the white ring seen on the butt joint.

I'm still stumped. The butt section looks like a Palmer from the late 1960's. I'm still not really sure on the joint. I've sent the pics to Peter Balner and I'll let you know what he thinks.

Chris

 

[CaptainHook]

The butt joint looks very similar to my Model "A" Palmer.
You are correct on the shaft, the rings do not match, so most likely not the original shaft.

 

[Hal]

I don't know much about these old cues, but I'd say it's an old Palmer.

 

[masonh]

not sure what it is,but i had a Tad once with what was supposed to be a Cortland wrap and it seemed to be lighter and softer than the Irish linen i was used to.