A lot of Euro countries have active pool associations with leagues and tournaments. These guys start young and get quality instruction. By the time they're 14-16 they are already really solid players. U.S. is just a tad behind in these regards....Filler, Kaci, etc. seemed to come out of nowhere. Are they byproducts of a background in snooker. If snooker is the key, why hasn't Ronnie O. run 600 in 14.1?
My guess is that Ronnie has never spent any significant amount of time playing 14.1 or any other pool game with 2-1/4" pool balls, due to the detrimental effects it might have on his snooker game, which is played with 2-1/16" considerably lighter balls, which changes everything. It would be interesting to see Ronnie play 14.1 on a 12 foot snooker table with standard snooker ball specs, to see how many balls he could run under those conditions....Filler, Kaci, etc. seemed to come out of nowhere. Are they byproducts of a background in snooker. If snooker is the key, why hasn't Ronnie O. run 600 in 14.1?
He's actually played a lot of pool, mainly 8ball. He's been on the MosconiCup and played in the IPT. If he played more of it he'd be a top guy in pool. His mechanics and feel are just too good.My guess is that Ronnie has never spent any significant amount of time playing 14.1 or any other pool game with 2-1/4" pool balls, due to the detrimental effects it might have on his snooker game, which is played with 2-1/16" considerably lighter balls, which changes everything. It would be interesting to see Ronnie play 14.1 on a 12 foot snooker table with standard snooker ball specs, to see how many balls he could run under those conditions.
...Filler, Kaci, etc. seemed to come out of nowhere. Are they byproducts of a background in snooker. If snooker is the key, why hasn't Ronnie O. run 600 in 14.1?
In Europe a lot of kids got to see Soquet and Ortmann in their prime. These two really had a big effect on Euro pool. In the UK you had Steve Knight(RIP) then Darren A. as models.This happened to me as well. I had been competing nationally through 2011, back when the Seminole events were around and the US Open had 256 players with a $500 entry. I wasn't a threat to win the major events but was cashing regularly and felt live to win almost any match.
Then after a few years off I played the 2017 US Open. I drew Kaci first round. I got whooped by an 18 year old. Then I got to watch Filler, Sanchez, Albin, and so many more like them from all over the world.
My belief is that SVB raised the bar in 2006-2008. All of the 8-12 year old kids that were getting started on their pool journey looked at SVB and said "That's what I must be able to do". Fast forward 10 years and you've got an army of 18-22 year old men that are absolutely killers. They all break strong, jump well, shoot straight, and play with tons of confidence. Totally different from the top players even 10 years ago.
I still like to go compete, but the game has definitely changed.
I asked the players at the Mosconi Cup who their early heroes were. All of the European players mentioned Efren. Busti and Earl got two mentions each.In Europe a lot of kids got to see Soquet and Ortmann in their prime. These two really had a big effect on Euro pool. In the UK you had Steve Knight(RIP) then Darren A. as models.
...Filler, Kaci, etc. seemed to come out of nowhere. Are they byproducts of a background in snooker. If snooker is the key, why hasn't Ronnie O. run 600 in 14.1?
Does Josh Filler have a background in snooker?
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You say Ronnie has played a lot of pool? Relative to his lifetime hours spent on a pool table vs a snooker table, I'm guessing it's less than 1%, maybe 2%-3% at most. I'm guessing he likely also doesn't even mess much with side spin when he does play pool, due to the differences in the deflection and swerve between snooker balls and pool balls.He's actually played a lot of pool, mainly 8ball. He's been on the MosconiCup and played in the IPT. If he played more of it he'd be a top guy in pool. His mechanics and feel are just too good.
Don't put words in my mouth. Never said anything about hrs played relative to his snooker. Just saying he has played quite a bit of pool and is FAR from helpless playing it.You say Ronnie has played a lot of pool? Relative to his lifetime hours spent on a pool table vs a snooker table, I'm guessing it's less than 1%, maybe 2%-3% at most. I'm guessing he likely also doesn't even mess much with side spin when he does play pool, due to the differences in the deflection and swerve between snooker balls and pool balls.
...Filler, Kaci, etc. seemed to come out of nowhere. Are they byproducts of a background in snooker. If snooker is the key, why hasn't Ronnie O. run 600 in 14.1?
...Filler, Kaci, etc. seemed to come out of nowhere. Are they byproducts of a background in snooker. If snooker is the key, why hasn't Ronnie O. run 600 in 14.1?
...Filler, Kaci, etc. seemed to come out of nowhere. Are they byproducts of a background in snooker. If snooker is the key, why hasn't Ronnie O. run 600 in 14.1?
I'm not sure why the US is so weak on young talent. Sure there's Sky, Berg, and Dechaine, but I think they're more of fringe top 15 players.
Sky can hit top gear and win and event like DCC, but it appears he players under guys like Filler, Kaci, Gorst, etc..
I asked the players at the Mosconi Cup who their early heroes were. All of the European players mentioned Efren. Busti and Earl got two mentions each.