Have you played with an Eclat cue, or any opinions about them based on pictures?

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justinb386

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I never heard of these cues, so I assume that maybe they are a new cue maker.

I am just curious if anyone on here has ever tried one out?

I think that this one (that I am watching) looks very nice, and it appears to have a piloted radial joint pin on it, which I think is pretty cool and unique.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eclat-Custo...244897?hash=item281da80ea1:g:DHEAAOSwyLlXpVHW

I am also curious to hear any opinions about Bama cues, and their quality in your opinion?

They look very nice too, I think.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111596023011?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Thanks for any info or thoughts about either of these cues.
 
justinb386 said:
I never heard of these cues, so I assume that maybe they are a new cue maker.

I am just curious if anyone on here has ever tried one out?

I think that this one (that I am watching) looks very nice, and it appears to have a piloted radial joint pin on it, which I think is pretty cool and unique.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eclat-Custo...244897?hash=item281da80ea1:g:DHEAAOSwyLlXpVHW

I am also curious to hear any opinions about Bama cues, and their quality in your opinion?

They look very nice too, I think.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111596023011?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Thanks for any info or thoughts about either of these cues.
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Lol . Here we go again.

Its a china-made production cue which plays pretty decently for its price range.
And once more not like u never heard it before , its d indian not d arrow.
My friend has won more local tournaments with it than me altho i play with a far more expensive custom cue.
It hits fairly stiff to me with and deflection is pretty low so its a fairly good playing cue with a good price tag.

But again Justin , we know its not gonna be ur last cue so have fun experimenting

Good luck .
 
I have . They play lights out. Hits like a dream . Great action, great feel and very low deflection.
Get one asap b/c the price will keep rising when the word gets out.
 
Cezar Morales said:
Lol . Here we go again.

Its a china-made production cue which plays pretty decently for its price range.
And once more not like u never heard it before , its d indian not d arrow.
My friend has won more local tournaments with it than me altho i play with a far more expensive custom cue.
It hits fairly stiff to me with and deflection is pretty low so its a fairly good playing cue with a good price tag.

But again Justin , we know its not gonna be ur last cue so have fun experimenting

Good luck .
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The indian needs a good quality bow, and a good quality and straight arrow , in order to hit his target though, right?

There sure are some really nice looking cues coming from China these days. It must be hard for the US cuemakers to compete, and survive (these days).
 
justinb386 said:
The indian needs a good quality bow, and a good quality and straight arrow , in order to hit his target though, right?

There sure are some really nice looking cues coming from China these days. It must be hard for the US cuemakers to compete, and survive

Lol not really.

The friend of mine that i told u is kinda cheap meaning he will never spend more than 500 on a cue.
As a matter of fact , he won most of tournaments with a god-dammn $50 beat up house cue which he roll on a table looked like a bloody banana and winked at us n say hows that, its the player not the cue.
F.y.i efren won his wpa world title with a warped cue.

Justin , if u really like playing pool , just buy a reasonable $500 custom stiff hitting cue or a low end predator mezz or ob and ya're good to go.
And spend the rest of your money on table time.

The reason why im saying it is becoz ya sound more like a collector or "experimentor" than a player, and from your infamous thread, i understand that u dont really have a big budget so messing around with big name custom is obvioisly not for you so find a stick u like and understanf it.

Jmho. Good luck
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May I ask why are you constantly changing cues and always looking for the next best thing :confused:

I am not trying to be mean that was just a friendly notice.

As you have had the opportunity to play with a ton of different cues I assume you have formed some sort of preference on what you like. Weight and balance, shaft diameter and taper, pin or collars even. If you know what you like then you really should consider having a custom made to your exact specifications and wood choices. If you havent formed an opinion on those then just buy a cue like a Mezz that you like and get familiar with that cue. Dont change things over and over again, it costs you some serious money and it hampers your game. Trust me, I have done exactly what you are doing now.
Finally, after two years and a few thousand bucks later I managed to settle on the exact specs for me and put in an order for a custom cue made for me by a reputable cue maker. So my search stopped and I'm just generally happy with my equipment now :) I recommed the same for you. Constant changes cost me money and honestly made me miserable as it was a rare occurance to get a cue I liked when I was just randomly shopping around.

Take care :)
 
Cezar Morales said:
justinb386 said:
The indian needs a good quality bow, and a good quality and straight arrow , in order to hit his target though, right?

There sure are some really nice looking cues coming from China these days. It must be hard for the US cuemakers to compete, and survive

Lol not really.

The friend of mine that i told u is kinda cheap meaning he will never spend more than 500 on a cue.
As a matter of fact , he won most of tournaments with a god-dammn $50 beat up house cue which he roll on a table looked like a bloody banana and winked at us n say hows that, its the player not the cue.
F.y.i efren won his wpa world title with a warped cue.

Justin , if u really like playing pool , just buy a reasonable $500 custom stiff hitting cue or a low end predator mezz or ob and ya're good to go.
And spend the rest of your money on table time.

The reason why im saying it is becoz ya sound more like a collector or "experimentor" than a player, and from your infamous thread, i understand that u dont really have a big budget so messing around with big name custom is obvioisly not for you so find a stick u like and understanf it.

Jmho. Good luck
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Yeah, there is one cue that I know I really love everything about, and that is Diveney cues (from my experience from the few that I tried out). The next best thing would be a "South East" from Nat Green, but those are really rare and very hard to find. Finally, the 3rd best hitting cues that I ever played with have been Helmstetters. So, yeah, there have been several cues that I have really loved over the years. My problem is, that I can't hold on to anything (no matter how much I love it). I need to find a cue that is practically worthless, and at the same time, a cue that I really enjoy playing with. I remember trying out a $50 (retail value) cue (that was made in the Philippines), and that cue his super nice (I thought). It was really well balanced, it had a nice super long taper on it, and it hit really nice and solid (with great feedback). If I knew (or could remember) who that cue came from, then I would just get myself one of those cheap Philippine production cues. At least then, I would have something that I really enjoyed shooting with, and something that would be worth so little, that I could actually hold onto forever. I will always love trying out new cues though. This is probably why I never got any better, past a certain point in my game (and actually kept getting worse, after my game peaked in my late teens). Thanks for the good advice.
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Kimmo H. said:
May I ask why are you constantly changing cues and always looking for the next best thing :confused:

I am not trying to be mean that was just a friendly notice.

As you have had the opportunity to play with a ton of different cues I assume you have formed some sort of preference on what you like. Weight and balance, shaft diameter and taper, pin or collars even. If you know what you like then you really should consider having a custom made to your exact specifications and wood choices. If you havent formed an opinion on those then just buy a cue like a Mezz that you like and get familiar with that cue. Dont change things over and over again, it costs you some serious money and it hampers your game. Trust me, I have done exactly what you are doing now.
Finally, after two years and a few thousand bucks later I managed to settle on the exact specs for me and put in an order for a custom cue made for me by a reputable cue maker. So my search stopped and I'm just generally happy with my equipment now :) I recommed the same for you. Constant changes cost me money and honestly made me miserable as it was a rare occurance to get a cue I liked when I was just randomly shopping around.

Take care :)
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To answer your 1st question, even when I do find a cue that I really love, I end up having to sell it (to pay a bill, for example). I really wish that I could find a good job, so that I could afford to hold onto a cue (when I do find one that I really love shooting with). I do know what I would order if I did have the money. It would be a cue from DIveney. There may be better cues out there, but in my experience (with the cues I have tried out over the years), the Diveney was the nicest and best overall cue I ever played with. Amazing balance and feedback from the cue ball. Diveney cues are amazing players. I can understand why Skyler Woodward played with one for as long as he did. Anyways, I agree that constant changes are no good for a players game. You make a very good point. I need to find a cue (that I can afford to hold onto), and hopefully I can get used to it, even if I do not really love it at 1st. Thanks for the good advice.
 
justinb386 said:
To answer your 1st question, even when I do find a cue that I really love, I end up having to sell it (to pay a bill, for example). I really wish that I could find a good job, so that I could afford to hold onto a cue (when I do find one that I really love shooting with). I do know what I would order if I did have the money. It would be a cue from DIveney. There may be better cues out there, but in my experience (with the cues I have tried out over the years), the Diveney was the nicest and best overall cue I ever played with. Amazing balance and feedback from the cue ball. Diveney cues are amazing players. I can understand why Skyler Woodward played with one for as long as he did. Anyways, I agree that constant changes are no good for a players game. You make a very good point. I need to find a cue (that I can afford to hold onto), and hopefully I can get used to it, even if I do not really love it at 1st. Thanks for the good advice.
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If you put the same effort into your life, as you have in pursuit of your perfect cue, you'd be a doctor, or rocket scientist. Perhaps you should go get a good paying job first, get a car, and THEN go get a decent cue?

Not being mean. I'm being honest. If you need to keep selling your cues to pay your bills, you're better off just not buying the cue to start with.

You don't have the money. Stop looking at cues.
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
If you put the same effort into your life, as you have in pursuit of your perfect cue, you'd be a doctor, or rocket scientist. Perhaps you should go get a good paying job first, get a car, and THEN go get a decent cue?

Not being mean. I'm being honest. If you need to keep selling your cues to pay your bills, you're better off just not buying the cue to start with.

You don't have the money. Stop looking at cues.
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Altho that sounded harsh , but theres alota truth in it.

Heed his advice justin or just get a cheap diviney sneaky pete used for approx 300-400 and hold onto it.
If u even have to sell it to pay bill, you're better off focusing on your career and coming back to play pool when ya're financially stable so u can enjoy the game more.
Its not fun when ya have to constantly sell a cue u like n comfortable with.
 
JoeyInCali said:
I have . They play lights out. Hits like a dream . Great action, great feel and very low deflection.
Get one asap b/c the price will keep rising when the word gets out.
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I also have
They dont play lights out. Doesnt Hits like a dream . No Great action, no great feel and not very low deflection.
Get one asap b/c the price will keep rising when the dont word dont gets out
 
Black-Balled said:
I also have
They dont play lights out. Doesnt Hits like a dream . No Great action, no great feel and not very low deflection.
Get one asap b/c the price will keep rising when the dont word dont gets out
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You might have had a US-made knockoff .
The real ones are made in China.
 
justinb386 said:
I never heard of these cues, so I assume that maybe they are a new cue maker.

I am just curious if anyone on here has ever tried one out?

I think that this one (that I am watching) looks very nice, and it appears to have a piloted radial joint pin on it, which I think is pretty cool and unique.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eclat-Custo...244897?hash=item281da80ea1:g:DHEAAOSwyLlXpVHW

I am also curious to hear any opinions about Bama cues, and their quality in your opinion?

They look very nice too, I think.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111596023011?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Thanks for any info or thoughts about either of these cues.
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tony zinzola, mike lambros and i think steve klein (i know he did piloted 3/8-11, g10) have all used piloted radial pins in the past.

i'm not sure what this "cross carbon" is... maybe a new form of environmental pollution they're pioneering at the factory.

also, you're not doing yourself any favors coming on here with the $250 oliver twist threads, while hinting that your ebay budget is double that... come on, justin
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
If you get good enough with a house cue it wont cost you a dolla
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I would give that a try, but even the nicest pool rooms that I have visited buy horrible cheap house cues (for their customers), and install slip on tips when needed. The slip on tips probably very rarely need to be replaced though. I could shoot just fine with a nice old Valley Supreme (one of the good ones from the 90's, that had nice long tapers on them) with a decent tip on it. Bar and room owners are too cheap to provide decent house cues for their customers. I do not know, but maybe they just figure that 99% of the customers could care less what they are using from the house cue wall.
 
Cezar Morales said:
Altho that sounded harsh , but theres alota truth in it.

Heed his advice justin or just get a cheap diviney sneaky pete used for approx 300-400 and hold onto it.
If u even have to sell it to pay bill, you're better off focusing on your career and coming back to play pool when ya're financially stable so u can enjoy the game more.
Its not fun when ya have to constantly sell a cue u like n comfortable with.
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Yes, I know that he was right. It is good advice (from both of you). Thanks.
 
JoeyInCali said:
You might have had a US-made knockoff .
The real ones are made in China.
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All joking aside, it seems to me that the cues coming from China are more popular then most of the cues that are made in the USA. Look at Lucasi and Predator to name a few examples (both very popular cue makers from China).
 
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