Do you guys think that taller player (with the same technique) will have a harder break?
height=power on breaking?
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How would being taller help?
TannerPruess said:
Not sure.
*this is all speculation and by no means correct or if it even works this way*
I guess if someone were taller they would have longer arms, which would lead to possibly a longer backstroke/forward stroke. This in turn could lead to a longer push on the cueball forward towards the rack and make it a tad closer to impact, reducing friction lost by the cloth?. Just throwing something out there.
I would like to see slow motion videos of this experiment. Shot from the side to see how long the cuetip rides the cueball before heading to the rack. Wonder if it is on that Colorado State Engineering site. Gonna go check.
Heres the link to those videos I mentioned. Also some good physics articles on collisions. http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/pool/high_speed_videos/index.html
Buddha's Belly said:
Not really. Prime example: Alex Pagulayan with 6 balls on the break. A TV record tying with Harriman I believe. And by the way... Tanner's crazy... I don't know why I just said it!
In yo face!John Horsfall will outbreak Santos Sambajon anyday.......
if height makes a difference, how does our own Sarah Rousey break so D@@n good....
also one of my former students about 4'11-1/2" consistently puts 2 to 3 balls in the pocket on the break...
I think it's technique/practice rather than how tall you are.
also one of my former students about 4'11-1/2" consistently puts 2 to 3 balls in the pocket on the break...
I think it's technique/practice rather than how tall you are.
Is it just me, or have all but one of these replies skirted the issue?
I think that given the same technique, *yes* a taller player would have a harder break because of the whole fulcrum/leverage thing.
This is of course emphasizing that they have the same technique. We've already established that small players (Santos, Pagulayan, Busta, Rousey) have good breaks, but that's not the question of the post.
I think that given the same technique, *yes* a taller player would have a harder break because of the whole fulcrum/leverage thing.
This is of course emphasizing that they have the same technique. We've already established that small players (Santos, Pagulayan, Busta, Rousey) have good breaks, but that's not the question of the post.
Buddha's Belly said:
Buddha's Belly said:
Same Technique yes
Same Timing No
That being said, a taller player will almost definately need a slightly different "technique" than a shorter player....
Its is all about Angles and Leverage.....and some strength.
Very similar to hitting a golf ball 300 yards...
Buddha's Belly said:
Height it meaningless for a powerful break shot. Perfect examples are Santos Sambajon and Rafael Martinez.
In something like baseball, height has a pretty big factor because of increasing the arc and whip while going through your motion which is why someone like Randy Johnson can pitch so fast for so long so effortlessly where other closers are dead after a few innings of 95+ pitching.
The same applies to golf really, longer the club and the more head speed your going to get but of course this also effects your accuracy as well.
In pool though, I don't really see a huge benefit because your only dealing with such a small range of motion on the break I can't see there being really any appreciable difference between on persons 12-18" stroke and anothers given the same technique.
The same applies to golf really, longer the club and the more head speed your going to get but of course this also effects your accuracy as well.
In pool though, I don't really see a huge benefit because your only dealing with such a small range of motion on the break I can't see there being really any appreciable difference between on persons 12-18" stroke and anothers given the same technique.
Height generally corrsesponds with reach as well as strength. It can deter from lateral mobility and overall agility.
The advantages of height in sport more often than not outweigh the disadvantages.
In pool, height is a good attribute overall and definetly on the break.
Short people tend to have a very difficult time believing this.
The advantages of height in sport more often than not outweigh the disadvantages.
In pool, height is a good attribute overall and definetly on the break.
Short people tend to have a very difficult time believing this.
I think the break is more of a rotational motion, whereas the hip, legs, shoulder, and the body rotate together with perfect timing to produce a lot of power.
I can see how one would put forth the notion that a player with longer arm, wider shoulder...etc can generate more power. But the player is not holding the cue at the full extension of his/her arm, the cue is held very close to the body. Longer arm does not lead to a longer radius of rotation.
A very short player can still generate explosive break power. Will a short player have an even better break if he/she had longer arm? Good question...I am not sure...
I can see how one would put forth the notion that a player with longer arm, wider shoulder...etc can generate more power. But the player is not holding the cue at the full extension of his/her arm, the cue is held very close to the body. Longer arm does not lead to a longer radius of rotation.
A very short player can still generate explosive break power. Will a short player have an even better break if he/she had longer arm? Good question...I am not sure...
Bustamante, Manalo and Nevel--three of the best breaks in the game. Nevel, the tallest of the bunch, might be 5-10.
Breaking Competition
Richard, maybe X-Breaker should do a breaking competition. Like in golf they have the long drive tournament. That would be very interesting
Richard, maybe X-Breaker should do a breaking competition. Like in golf they have the long drive tournament. That would be very interesting
Height vs. Power
I was at Shooters in Burnsville, MN tonight and put up a 31 mph break on the radar gun tonight on a barbox. I am only 5'8" tall as well. I was able to put up a little over 29 a few times in Vegas this past year. I guess you can take that for what it is worth.
I was at Shooters in Burnsville, MN tonight and put up a 31 mph break on the radar gun tonight on a barbox. I am only 5'8" tall as well. I was able to put up a little over 29 a few times in Vegas this past year. I guess you can take that for what it is worth.