Help identifying a possible hustler

ShootingArts said:
What is ridiculous is that they have a guy that will get in the grease and take chances. Instead of jumping at the chance to take him off even with a spot, they want a lock on his speed. It isn't that fast or he would be well known.

The local shortstops should be lining up to play him. Instead OP is playing internet games trying to get a lock. I do think we have beaten on the OP enough but the message should be loud and clear, the few that do know him probably ain't gonna say anything. If they do it will be in a private conversation.

OP has gotten a few replies that might be serious. Now OP has to decide how much to value a stranger's opinion. Got to cut another lap!

Why don't we take up a collection for five or ten bucks a head. Tell OP to round up the toughest local guy and back him.

Hu
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I have a feeling the OP will never post on AZB again.
 
dlarrick99 said:
It’s mostly rumor so far but this guy easily beat our 680 Fargo player spotting him a game or two, has supposedly beaten Jason Hall in Florida also. Says he’s from Columbia. Can you help identify him? Playing as a 614 Fargo out of NY.
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In days long gone by, a player would arrive at the infamous Sport Palace seeking action. He would usually arrive at night and a new face always instilled a sense of excitement in the pool room. The mystery of who the player was, how well he plays, and who he would be playing is lost now to cell phones, Internet forums and other technology. Unfortunately, it is all our loss but mostly the loss of this current generation because they will never know the excitement of an unknown player coming to town. These days that excitement of mystery is short-lived and we are all the less for it.
 
If i remeber correctly doesn't fargo start you in the 500-600 range? The guy you have has 34 games under his belt and that's not alot in the terms of fargo goes.

So your saying that I walk into the door and beat a 680, Which i can do. You are going to call me a hustler? I have a wife and a kid my road days have gone by decades ago. I just wanna play pool. I play daily and I go to the pool hall 1-2 days a week. My kid wants to see his father.
 
JoeyA said:
In days long gone by, a player would arrive at the infamous Sport Palace seeking action. He would usually arrive at night and a new face always instilled a sense of excitement in the pool room. The mystery of who the player was, how well he plays, and who he would be playing is lost now to cell phones, Internet forums and other technology. Unfortunately, it is all our loss but mostly the loss of this current generation because they will never know the excitement of an unknown player coming to town. These days that excitement of mystery is short-lived and we are all the less for it.
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And don't forget the happiness or sadness of the new guy who came and won or lost but did play!
 
garczar said:
Have him play a challenge match against justnum. The stream's entertainment value would be epic and probably psychologically damaging in some way. What's not to like??? ;)
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Oh man, I forgot all about that guy. My one member ignore list works great! The forum has been so peaceful.
 
Dude...you gotta travel to some big tournaments....
There are whole crews of guys that can play.

The Puerto Ricans put in Poppy who is 70 plus and will shoot your liver out....he is pro speed and you would never guess if you didn't see him play.
 
dlarrick99 said:
The league operator brought him in as 649 & 38 games robustness. By the next Tuesday he’s dropped to a 614 & 43 games. That’s sandbagging when you see how good this guy plays. Even his teammates say 700+ pro player out of Columbia. I would like to know the truth. Btw the league bylaws mention prohibiting sandbagging about 17 times.
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League? Don't worry then. All league plyrs r shite
 
We have crucified this guy. Then I remember when I faded from the pool scene in the late eighties and early nineties the road players were keeping books on who they played and swapping this information with other road players. My anonymity was fading fast.

It is obvious from this thread that AZB isn't the place to look for information but I had a handful of road players admit that I was in a book that they shared with other road players.

Why shouldn't local players have the same information about road players that they have about us?

It worked well for me. Road players that I was used to having to play on their turf were now beating a path to my door. Few escaped with their shirts when I had home room advantage.
The crappier the room the bigger home room advantage is.

JoeyA said:
In days long gone by, a player would arrive at the infamous Sport Palace seeking action. He would usually arrive at night and a new face always instilled a sense of excitement in the pool room. The mystery of who the player was, how well he plays, and who he would be playing is lost now to cell phones, Internet forums and other technology. Unfortunately, it is all our loss but mostly the loss of this current generation because they will never know the excitement of an unknown player coming to town. These days that excitement of mystery is short-lived and we are all the less for it.
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Great post Joey, it is the situation that is sad. Perhaps the most exciting thing about my little few day or few week trips was opening the door of a place I had never been in and would probably never be in again. I didn't know anybody and they didn't know me.

It was more a question of who would bet than how good they were. Odds of running into a high B player or above were small and if I did there was gas in my tank and another place to play down the road.

I read and reread a book about Titanic Thompson. It took awhile to realize there would never be another Titanic Thompson. There might be another with his skills and mindset, there will never be the people to make casual bets with a stranger for big money, not on a routine basis anyway. Ti was pretty much toast after he got his picture in all the big papers coast to coast during a high profile murder trial. Most of the people sitting around in a pool or billiard hall saw his picture, same for those sitting in a golf clubhouse. He wasn't a stranger anywhere anymore. People that would get in the grease with a stranger were still around, those that would get in the grease with Ti were far fewer.

It took him just a day or three to win a new Chrysler when he came to the city they were built in, from one of the family that owned Chrysler. Not possible to imagine the same thing happening today. Cards were a big part of his action and his final downfall. Hard to mark modern cards and after raking together all he could beg borrow or steal, his partner chickened out on him thinking he couldn't possibly see the tiny marks in dim light. Ti hoped to come away from that table with several hundred thousand since he had mostly big money sitting at the table with him. Instead he won a little and walked away from the table with peanuts and in debt for much of the money he had spent laying out his spread.

Your UJ Puckett story remains one of the greatest pool stories I have ever read by the way.

The storm is just getting to us as I write this, keep your head low! Francine ain't a lady.

Hu
 
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the gamblers now a days make more than ever before, and exponentially. and they are well known. they gamble with other gamblers. not some knocker in the pool or card room that cant raise 20 bucks or have the nerve to even bet it.

there are still many big bet pool games few know about, and all sorts of high stakes gambles going on every where and every day.

i miss the old style fun pool room to hang out in. but i gamble many times higher than i ever did there.

and no stupid paul revere type is coming around taking pictures and yelling the hustlers are coming the hustlers are coming.
solely because they are never in those places.
 
Black-Balled said:
@justnum would certainly dismantle him with his mental force and technological revolutions.
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I will counter with a project development competition.

Pick a weekend, its a timed activity over multiple days, and the judges can be the forum.

To improve pool player access the competition will focus on developing innovations for disabled, amputated, low vision, wheelchair bound or other medical condition worth promoting.

Competition Goal:
Giving pool players that have shaky hands from medical conditions a workable alternative.
If the shaky hands problems doesn't interest you, then how about someone with depth perception problems.

The competition purpose is to highlight how billiards has a talented pool of inventors and responders.

If BARPA sponsored it would be called the billiards and beyond build. Where billiards enthusiast help build solutions to overcome physical or medical issues prospective pool players suffer. Ideally medical groups would sponsor and provide some support.

Pool is in more countries than basketball, baseball or football. The population is larger and appeals to all generations.

If an agency wanted to data mine the pool industry, it would be a better model for global distribution than other business models. On top of that pool is historic however there is no historical billiard society. Historical societies are useful when someone can invest to make it productive.
 
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I was reminded of this thread over the weekend. I'm playing pool with a buddy at the new local pool room. A local "kid" who is sponsored by the pool room was there practicing alone a couple tables over. He's probably 21/22 years old and rated around 625 but I think plays better than that. Really been coming along with his game over the past couple of years.

Anyway, a "new guy" comes into the room and after 15 minutes, he approaches the kid and asks if he wanted to play some cheap sets of 9-ball or 10-ball. The kid said "no" and the guy walked away to find other action. I asked the kid why he wouldn't play and he said he was afraid he would be getting robbed. He said he'll only gamble with people he knows. I told him I'd put him in some $50 sets anytime a stranger wanted to play. He still wouldn't do it. I think the best thing this kid could do for his game is play any stranger he can for some cash but he is afraid.

The guy ended up playing cheap with a lady who was in town for the women's tour event they were holding. She beat him. He was maybe a 575 fargo :D
 
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