HELP re JUMPING UP/RECOILING

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3RAILKICK

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I'm trying to help a buddy stop recoiling (abrupt 'jump up') after/during shots especially where cb and ob are a foot or less apart. There is also the sideways slashing motion while raising up (that reminds one of a combination of a samurai swordsman slashing while also pulling hard with both hands on the reins of a runaway horse) that endangers those around him.

So far no luck taming this beast. My suggestion to him that included a pulley system, fish hooks and eight pound test line strung from his crotch to his collar was not well received.

To my knowledge he is not a retired EOD expert. But he does seem intent on outrunning any explosion that might occur from a cb-ob collision.

Any suggestions are appreciated. He is going to hurt himself or worse - a waitress. I really would like to help him with this problem.

STAY DOWN -until the cb contacts the ob
-until the ob goes in the pocket
-until the cb stops rolling -haven't helped

An intervention is needed-I'm looking for ways to help him get thru this.

Thank you

3railkick
 
What types of shots does he jump on? The ones he's most uncomfortable with or all of them?

Is he partaking in any solo practice or is it all with someone else.

A couple of things that might help. Adding a pause to the stroke (if he hasn't one already) helps break things down a bit which would allow him to focus on one thing at a time. I suspect at this point the body movement is part of the muscle memory. If he focuses on staying still on his backstroke it's easier to follow through in likewise manner.

Have him put some extra weight on his lead foot.

Practice this by tossing 15 balls out on the table and potting them randomly. If he moves at any point he has to start again whether he made the ball or not. It's a good way to warm up on a regular basis.
 
To work on the problem, take away everything else. If he jumps up on short shots, get him to work on his stroke just shooting one ball straight into the pocket. Without the distraction of the other ball, he can focus simply on his stroke and staying down. Once he gets in that habit, then add the object ball to the mix.

In order to fix a problem, you must first isollate it.

Steve
 
Go to Academy and get a dog shock collar...put that on his neck...and just sit there with your finger on the red button...right in front of his shot just to let him know you mean business...

One of the best things I tell my students is to just count in their head one-one-thousand, two-one thousand while they pratice...it usually doesn't take long before it comes natural. Either that or I say stay down and watch the ball fall into the pocket and dont move an inch till it drops. He's jumping up because he is not being conscious about what he is doing. Give him something extra to focus on like the count or watching the ball...this becomes a system, and eventually a habit, and then no more worries. But there's always the shock collar...

It reminds me of a problem in baseball as a kid...never used two hands to catch, so my father took a square board and stapled a glove to it, I could only use this flat board/glove to throw/catch and pratice everything...to this day I don't even need to catch a ball in the mitt....I can keep it closed all I want and catch it outside no problem...sometimes when people are stubborn you just gotta be smarter and break them in ingenious ways....today they sell leather ball gloves designed specifically for this...and it started with a rubber glove and a board lol.

Grey Ghost
 
The Rake

I used to do all of the above including the sideways motion. My friends called it "the rake" because I moved some balls a time or two including the 8 ball on a hill-hill game during a local tourny. It caused a BIG scene.

Two things improved this;

1) Read Pleasures of Small Motions.

2) I took lessons from Stan Shuffett. See a qualified BCA instructor. The guys on here would be glad to see him.

I hope "Your Friend" improves.:smile:
 
3RAILKICK...Pooltcher suggested a good idea. Just have your friend shoot one ball into the pocket (no cb), focusing on the quality of a loose grip, and a nice swing. The other suggestion, to steer him to a qualified instructor, is also good. Make sure the instructor uses video review, as part of the lesson...otherwise, find another instructor. Many people can't "fix" their problems, because they don't "know" what they're doing wrong. While you may be 'telling' him, that may not be enough. A good instructor is a trained observer, who can provide detailed instruction on correcting errors. Seeing yourself on t.v., in slow-motion video, with the instructor pointing out good points and inconsistencies, will lead to a solution to the problems your friend is experiencing. Tell us where you are located, and we can suggest an instructor.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

3RAILKICK said:
:yikes::yikes:

I'm trying to help a buddy stop recoiling (abrupt 'jump up') after/during shots especially where cb and ob are a foot or less apart. There is also the sideways slashing motion while raising up (that reminds one of a combination of a samurai swordsman slashing while also pulling hard with both hands on the reins of a runaway horse) that endangers those around him.

So far no luck taming this beast. My suggestion to him that included a pulley system, fish hooks and eight pound test line strung from his crotch to his collar was not well received.

To my knowledge he is not a retired EOD expert. But he does seem intent on outrunning any explosion that might occur from a cb-ob collision.

Any suggestions are appreciated. He is going to hurt himself or worse - a waitress. I really would like to help him with this problem.

STAY DOWN -until the cb contacts the ob
-until the ob goes in the pocket
-until the cb stops rolling -haven't helped

An intervention is needed-I'm looking for ways to help him get thru this.

Thank you

3railkick
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Thanks

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Scott Lee said:
3RAILKICK...Pooltcher suggested a good idea. Just have your friend shoot one ball into the pocket (no cb), focusing on the quality of a loose grip, and a nice swing. The other suggestion, to steer him to a qualified instructor, is also good. Make sure the instructor uses video review, as part of the lesson...otherwise, find another instructor. Many people can't "fix" their problems, because they don't "know" what they're doing wrong. While you may be 'telling' him, that may not be enough. A good instructor is a trained observer, who can provide detailed instruction on correcting errors. Seeing yourself on t.v., in slow-motion video, with the instructor pointing out good points and inconsistencies, will lead to a solution to the problems your friend is experiencing. Tell us where you are located, and we can suggest an instructor.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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We're located in Orange county, California.

I certainly have been of no help to him.

Thanks again

3railkick
 
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I told my leaper to "jump on the inside" He knows he has the problem, especially after he took a chunk out of the difuser grill in my Diamond light...:eek:

He mostly jumps when he's insecure about a shot or the pressure is really on. I have learned to recognize this and in those situations remind him not to jump. He's getting better but there's still a long way to go. I think he needed to damage my light before he decided it needed fixing. I hope your guy doesn't put an eye out before he comes to the same conclusion.


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