Form your own opinion
You're gonna have to determine what you like before you start down this road of experimentation.
Go to wolfbite.com and read up on their tip section. He has an extensive glossary of tip terms you will appreciate.
If you like a stiff crisp hit, Hercules, Wizard, Kamui, Moori, all those have a good, crisp hit. I personally use the Hercules med/hard extra deluxe as well as the WB from Joe Barringer's cuecomponents.com
Try a Triangle or even a regular lepro. You will be amazed at how much you can do.
Most importantly, don't worry so much about your tip and equipment. Find something you like, and stick with it. You are what is important, not the materials.
alwayzcocacola0 said:
You're gonna have to determine what you like before you start down this road of experimentation.
Go to wolfbite.com and read up on their tip section. He has an extensive glossary of tip terms you will appreciate.
If you like a stiff crisp hit, Hercules, Wizard, Kamui, Moori, all those have a good, crisp hit. I personally use the Hercules med/hard extra deluxe as well as the WB from Joe Barringer's cuecomponents.com
Try a Triangle or even a regular lepro. You will be amazed at how much you can do.
Most importantly, don't worry so much about your tip and equipment. Find something you like, and stick with it. You are what is important, not the materials.
i've hit with most every type of tip and I used to use Moori mediums religiously, sometimes I used a soft.
I find that Moori's are excellent when they are new or middle aged when they are still holding chalk, but you have to scuff the tips pretty good to keep them chalked later on in life and they just don't play the same... that means no consistency and no consistency is bad, especially at the price of a Moori.
I just bought myself some milk duds from golfparent (aka "Melk Duds") and WOW. Seriously, these tips play significantly better than any Moori I've ever used on their best day. They make a great sound, they hold chalk very very well, and they grip the cue ball great. After playing with the tip for a week or two now I can honestly say that the tip itself has improved my game (even if it is ever so slightly), which is a huge testament to a tip... I didn't think a tip could do that.
These tips last forever and they are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. Earl Strickland swears by them, the filipinos invented them and swear by them, and I can tell you without a doubt that I'll never use another type of tip. A firm milk dud will also serve very well as a break tip.
Do yourself a favor and at least try these tips, you will not regret it.
I have also hit with a tri-dud done by golfparent that I let my friend buy from me for his cue and it hits equally as good as the milk duds. The tri-dud tip is simply a milk dud made with a triangle tip rather than an Elkmaster. SVB swears by triangle tips. Either the tri-dud or milk dud are going to work great.
I can't overemphasize how much I love these tips.
I find that Moori's are excellent when they are new or middle aged when they are still holding chalk, but you have to scuff the tips pretty good to keep them chalked later on in life and they just don't play the same... that means no consistency and no consistency is bad, especially at the price of a Moori.
I just bought myself some milk duds from golfparent (aka "Melk Duds") and WOW. Seriously, these tips play significantly better than any Moori I've ever used on their best day. They make a great sound, they hold chalk very very well, and they grip the cue ball great. After playing with the tip for a week or two now I can honestly say that the tip itself has improved my game (even if it is ever so slightly), which is a huge testament to a tip... I didn't think a tip could do that.
These tips last forever and they are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. Earl Strickland swears by them, the filipinos invented them and swear by them, and I can tell you without a doubt that I'll never use another type of tip. A firm milk dud will also serve very well as a break tip.
Do yourself a favor and at least try these tips, you will not regret it.
I have also hit with a tri-dud done by golfparent that I let my friend buy from me for his cue and it hits equally as good as the milk duds. The tri-dud tip is simply a milk dud made with a triangle tip rather than an Elkmaster. SVB swears by triangle tips. Either the tri-dud or milk dud are going to work great.
I can't overemphasize how much I love these tips.
Not to be so damn off topic, but if I do want to try different tips and etc, how would I go about changing a tip. I have never done it before. Can someone please walk me through it, or point me in the right directions? I want to learn to change them myself, because if I try on let's say 5 different tips, I don't want to have to make five different runs to the billiard shop. Thanks all.
Happy shooting!
Chino
Happy shooting!
Chino
chin0 said:Not to be so damn off topic, but if I do want to try different tips and etc, how would I go about changing a tip. I have never done it before. Can someone please walk me through it, or point me in the right directions? I want to learn to change them myself, because if I try on let's say 5 different tips, I don't want to have to make five different runs to the billiard shop. Thanks all.
Happy shooting!
Chino
to really do it properly and effectively you need a cue lathe... you should never be charged more than 10 or 15 bucks for labor on putting on a tip, and you'd have to put on a helluva lot of tips to gain the experience that local cue repair guys have.
Its possible to do it without a lathe, but I have no idea how and don't recommend it.
chin0 said:Not to be so damn off topic, but if I do want to try different tips and etc, how would I go about changing a tip. I have never done it before. Can someone please walk me through it, or point me in the right directions? I want to learn to change them myself, because if I try on let's say 5 different tips, I don't want to have to make five different runs to the billiard shop. Thanks all.
Happy shooting!
Chino
Honestly its not that hard to do.....
IF!!!...
you are an arts and crafts type person used to dealing with x-acto knives and and super glue type products... if you have First Place Ribbons on the Car Models you made in high school ... you should be able to figure it out....
if you don't .... pay someone else to do it...
and if you want to try it I recommend trying it on your "other" cue for a while to figure it out...
good luck..
Ive been putting my own tips on for years using a cordless drill and a sharp Kershaw pocket knife. I have messed up so many tips and ferrules its not funny, but now Im pretty good at it. It took many mistakes and a long time to be able to do it this way, and as good as I think I can put one on, its usually still not as good as a tip put on by a pro with the best equipement. I say usually, cuz dometimes I even impress myself, lol.:lmao:
I was an art major in highschool, and am pretty handy with tools but I have made up my mind, let the pros do it, at least if they mess it up, I have someone to complain to and make them pay for their mistakes, rather than spending money on tips and messing them up myself and cry lol. Thanks for all the help and advice :thumbup: . A lathe is expensive, if I am just doing my own work and not making any profit from it, it is pointless to get one.
Happy shooting!
Chino
Happy shooting!
Chino
chin0 said:I was an art major in highschool, and am pretty handy with tools but I have made up my mind, let the pros do it, at least if they mess it up, I have someone to complain to and make them pay for their mistakes, rather than spending money on tips and messing them up myself and cry lol. Thanks for all the help and advice :thumbup: . A lathe is expensive, if I am just doing my own work and not making any profit from it, it is pointless to get one.
Happy shooting!
Chino
they're not cheap that's for sure.
i actually do my own tips by hand. there's a pretty good thread here somewhere where there's detailed instructions on how to change your own tips by hand.
as long as you use a really sharp razor and are really careful when sanding everything it's easy enough
found the retipping without a lathe thread
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=51018&highlight=tips+lathe
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Tips have nothing to do with deflection and any tip can be made to hold chalk well (you just have to "texture" them periodically).
The only real difference between tips is consistency and "compressibility". If a tip compresses as you play with it, then it gets harder and harder, which means it plays a little differently every day. Harder tips and layered tips compress less and therefore play more consistently over their lifetime.
pj
chgo
Patrick Johnson said:
i just spend a hundred dollars on some low deflection tips though
Josh Palmer said:
I have been playing with a Tiger Products "Everest" tip which was on the blank Predator shaft when I bought it. It played perfectly. I used it until I only had 1/16" of leather left on the tip and was waiting for my pool hall to order a pack of Everest tips and got scared so I put an Elkmaster tip in my tip compressor and squeezed the doo-doo out of it for about 5 minutes. I torqued it up something awful and had the tip installed. It played like a sponge and I lost an "important" match because of it.
I'm still waiting for the Everest tips to arrive. Cue Stix has them on BACK ORDER. :angry:
Old road warrior, Nate's in town for a visit but I'm just letting the other banger's tear him apart.
JoeyA
cincyman
Banned
Moori medium if you want to spend the money, if not you cant beat a "good" Lepro.
The problem only about 15 in a box are any good.
I tried Sniper tips and had Dennis Searing install it and to me it was very loud,
you could actually hear the tip and not the sound of the cue.
As for others i have tried, i have the worlds best talisman tip ever put on a jump break cue and it has been broken with and played with for YES 4 years and still is about half there and round as a dime. Obviously this is not a normal occurrence :thumbup:
The problem only about 15 in a box are any good.
I tried Sniper tips and had Dennis Searing install it and to me it was very loud,
you could actually hear the tip and not the sound of the cue.
As for others i have tried, i have the worlds best talisman tip ever put on a jump break cue and it has been broken with and played with for YES 4 years and still is about half there and round as a dime. Obviously this is not a normal occurrence :thumbup:
poolplayer2093 said:
The hardest part is admitting to yourself that you've been had. Good for you.
pj
chgo
Patrick Johnson said:
What Patrick says is quite accurate as usual.
In addition, (and this is just my own personal perception), I think that some people with errant strokes seem to miscue less with softer tips. Harder tips even when chalked seem to cause the crooked strokers to miscue more often.
Even though I use a rather hard tip (Everest) I also don't like the super hard tips which gloss over after a dozen shots and then don't hold chalk very well. I dislike having to shape or texture my tip every hour on the hour.
I can even live with the banshee-like screeching of chalk going on a very hard tip unless it is in the middle of my final stroke. :wink:
The very soft tips are just too spongy for me until they are used for a couple of hundred hours of play. The constant need to correct the mushrooming or to reshape the tops of the tip is a pain I can do without. The very soft tips just give me another excuse for missing.
JoeyA
Patrick Johnson said:
"HAD"???? I thought he was bragging cuz he got a good deal....
I think I've noticed this too (maybe I should have mentioned it as a possible difference between tips, but I can't be sure if it's just an impression). My guess is that it has something to do with harder tips "glazing over" - I know I notice more "bald spots" when that happens...
pj
chgo