Maybe I'll have to re-read that book. I was not favorably impressed by it when I read it a long time ago. It had horrible poetry among other faults.dmgwalsh said:
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dmgwalsh said:Looks like I have another book to reread.
DMG,
I've never even heard of that book. But it definitely sounds like something I need to find. Hopefully elvicash has a copy that I can steal.....errrr.....I mean "borrow" from his basement.
Williebetmore said:
Johnny Holiday had three books on straight pool. Encyclopedia of Billiards, and Continuous Hi Runs are the other two.
By the way my Diliberto Lesson is up.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v14133443nEjQeCbB
+1 for Jim Rempe's 2 DVDs. I like 'em a lot.
- How to Run a Rack in Straight Pool
- How to Run a Hundred Balls
- How to Run a Rack in Straight Pool
- How to Run a Hundred Balls
bluepepper said:
I have Position Play for High Runs. Read it years ago, how long ago, I can't even remember. I learned a bunch from Goerge Fels's Mastering Pool. Guys in the pool room looked at it and said that it had stuff in it that they had never heard of/learned in all the years they'd played, and some of them had been playing a hell of a lot longer than me.
Blackjack reminded me that I have always had a tendency to over hit break shots. The first line in George's book, after the Preface: "I'm sorry, but I'll just bet that you're hitting the balls too hard."
I made a mistake and ordered the wrong book. I got Holiday's "Continuous Hi-Runs" instead of "Position Play for Hi-Runs." But after reading this one I can't imagine anything worthwhile in the other one. It was so pretentiously written and utterly worthless that I'm about to toss it in the garbage. And the $9 I lost on it could have paid the day rate at my local pool room for 7 full hours of continuous low-runs.
dmgwalsh said:None of his three books are very well written.
I'll have to try again, too. Maybe practice some of the shots he sets up in there. If it was good enough for Bobby Hunter, just maybe......
I'm still glad you mentioned the book Dennis. I don't blame you. The "pattern play" book of Holiday's must be better than the one I got if he found so much in it.
I spent about an hour reading through the "continuous runs" one, and it was actually laughable what he was teaching. And after each of his "nuggets," he vaunts about his brilliance and how he's the only one ever to bring this genious to light. He must visualize the clouds parting over his pool table. I also noticed that a couple of his shots couldn't come off the way he drew them.
It helps to confirm for me that there really isn't all that much that can be taught to make a person a high runner. See the problems, get rid of them early, bump a ball for a break ball or key ball if necessary. Then besides picking out a good 3 or 4 ball end pattern, it seems to me to come down to cueball control and shotmaking skills.
Please, somebody prove me wrong.
Please, somebody prove me wrong.
I looked over the three books this morning. Maybe I'll be inspired to do a report on them, but in the mean time.... There are at least six to eight other books you should read first:dmgwalsh said:
Mosconi (either one)
Byrne -- Standard Book, both sections
Capelle -- straight pool book
Fels -- Mastering Pool(?) and maybe "How would you play this?"
Cranfield and Moy
Ralph Eckert
Don't do that. I'll give you $5 plus postage. Some people actually collect these.bluepepper said: