Here is my aiming method, I call it edge to edge aiming, might work for you!!

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I thought I would share an aiming method that I have been using all my life. I have always been able to visualize the proper line of aim, however, until recently I never thought about why. The way I have been aiming is edge to edge, and at least for me where I hit the cue ball doesn't change how I aim each and every shot no matter what English I happen to apply. Now, I don't know if it is just something that is unique to me or if it will work for everyone.

When I get down behind the cue ball and line up on the object ball I put the right and left edge directly in a straight line with the right and left edge of the object ball. If I want to cut the object ball left I then line up the left side of the cue ball with my contact point on the right side of the object ball take a few warm-up strokes and fire. If I want to cut the ball right, I line up the right side of the cue ball with left side of the object and take a few warm-up strokes and bam!!! I fire the ball in.

If I am shooting a shot straight in I line up the left and right edges of the cue ball with the left and right edges of the object and shoot straight through using the center of both balls as a final reference point.

Now like I said using this method I use no allowance for English so long as I do not go more than a single tip or less from center and it doesn't matter what size table I play on. The best part about this aiming method is that I do not have to look back and forth between the object ball and the cue ball and because I can see both and where I am hitting the cue all at the same time. Now, I do have a good stroke and good fundamentals but I suspect that anyone could use this method effectively with a little practice!!!:)

What do you all think!! Try it you will like it!!:)
 
Sounds a lot like my "system", except that for straight in shots I align the center of the cue ball with the center of the object ball.

No need to adjust, pivot, switch, or dance.....just shoot em in. :thumbup:

Jim
 
jimmyg said:
Sounds a lot like my "system", except that for straight in shots I align the center of the cue ball with the center of the object ball.

No need to adjust, pivot, switch, or dance.....just shoot em in. :thumbup:

Jim
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I totally agree Jim, there is no movement necessary and by initially lining up edge to edge you have a simple repeatable aiming method that has the same starting point every time.

But Dam Jim, you burst my bubble I thought I invented it!!!!!!!!!:(:grin:

At least I know now that I am not alone, thanks for your post Jim.:)
 
This sounds like a good aiming method pocket balls. Do you use any outside english to throw the balls in? Thanks for sharing. Johnnyt
 
From what I read sounds similiar to how I aim str8 in shots, but it also sounds like Hals two edges and three points of aim on the objectball.
 
Johnnyt said:
This sounds like a good aiming method pocket balls. Do you use any outside english to throw the balls in? Thanks for sharing. Johnnyt
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It all depends where I want the cue ball after contact with the object ball. However, yes I do favor a little out side English on the cue ball it certainly helps pocket balls if you get a little sloppy and catch the lip going into a pocket.!!:)

Thanks for your post.
 
TheConArtist said:
From what I read sounds similiar to how I aim str8 in shots, but it also sounds like Hals two edges and three points of aim on the objectball.
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I don't know how Hal taught aiming, this is the only way I have ever aimed shots, it just always seemed right to me and the results have always been good. I believe that if something is not broke don't fix it, and I never really thought about it until I read all these threads on aiming systems. I have only recently started getting back in stroke, and I since I own a Pool Room I have been putting a number of hour's into my game.

I just thought I would add something to the other conversations, and I hope it helps some one. I know it has helped many of the young players who frequent my room, in fact it seems pretty easy to most people who try it.

Thanks for your post.
 
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i think Craig was in vegas and found efrens journal that he lost....
great post'
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Rob.M
 
manwon said:
I don't know how Hal taught aiming, this is the only way I have ever aimed shots, it just always seemed right to me and the results have always been good. I believe that if something is not broke don't fix it, and I never really thought about it until I read all these threads on aiming systems. I have only recently started getting back in stroke, and I since I own a Pool Room I have been putting a number of hour's into my game.

I just thought I would add something to the other conversations, and I hope it helps some one. I know it has helped many of the young players who frequent my room, in fact it seems pretty easy to most people who try it.

Thanks for your post.
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the system I was talking bout from Hals is for left cuts you use the left edge of the cueball and aim it at either the quarters or the center of the objectball and of course edge to edge for the thin cuts vice versa for right cuts. Is it somewhat what you are doing?

I see two cueballs when I'm over down on the shot so alot of the aiming systems are hard for me as I have too try and incorporate my own twists, so for your system I see two edges on the left and two on the right of the cueball. So for cuts to the left I basically just use the cueball my left eye see's and vice versa for right cuts.
 
manwon said:
I thought I would share an aiming method that I have been using all my life. I have always been able to visualize the proper line of aim, however, until recently I never thought about why. The way I have been aiming is edge to edge, and at least for me where I hit the cue ball doesn't change how I aim each and every shot no matter what English I happen to apply. Now, I don't know if it is just something that is unique to me or if it will work for everyone.

When I get down behind the cue ball and line up on the object ball I put the right and left edge directly in a straight line with the right and left edge of the object ball. If I want to cut the object ball left I then line up the left side of the cue ball with my contact point on the right side of the object ball take a few warm-up strokes and fire. If I want to cut the ball right, I line up the right side of the cue ball with left side of the object and take a few warm-up strokes and bam!!! I fire the ball in.

If I am shooting a shot straight in I line up the left and right edges of the cue ball with the left and right edges of the object and shoot straight through using the center of both balls as a final reference point.

Now like I said using this method I use no allowance for English so long as I do not go more than a single tip or less from center and it doesn't matter what size table I play on. The best part about this aiming method is that I do not have to look back and forth between the object ball and the cue ball and because I can see both and where I am hitting the cue all at the same time. Now, I do have a good stroke and good fundamentals but I suspect that anyone could use this method effectively with a little practice!!!:)

What do you all think!! Try it you will like it!!:)
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Hu I did try it. I do like it! New to me no doubt....I'm strictly a ghost baller or feel player.
This is why I love having a table at home...can just read it and try it. Instant results lol.

I put a an ob on the break spot and the cb on the same head string one diamonds distance away (towards the side rail) and started cutting balls into the corner using this approach. Not all of em...but quite a dam few...and this ain't the worlds most simple cut.

One thing is not clear though. In the shot diiscribed above if I line up left edge to left and right to right....I'm aiming directly into the opposing head string diamond. If I am down on the shot at that point I have to stand up and adjust for aiming left edge to contact point. Or should the "double edge aligning" happen before the shot is approached? Its not clear when reading post one.

I did try it both ways many tiimes...and both showed good potential.
 
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Craig, this is how I aim too. Finally, someone did describe it pretty well. :thumbsup:

But sometimes, my eyes deceive me. I used to see that line clear, now it just disappears most of the time. =(
 
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manwon said:
I thought I would share an aiming method that I have been using all my life. I have always been able to visualize the proper line of aim, however, until recently I never thought about why. The way I have been aiming is edge to edge, and at least for me where I hit the cue ball doesn't change how I aim each and every shot no matter what English I happen to apply. Now, I don't know if it is just something that is unique to me or if it will work for everyone.

When I get down behind the cue ball and line up on the object ball I put the right and left edge directly in a straight line with the right and left edge of the object ball. If I want to cut the object ball left I then line up the left side of the cue ball with my contact point on the right side of the object ball take a few warm-up strokes and fire. If I want to cut the ball right, I line up the right side of the cue ball with left side of the object and take a few warm-up strokes and bam!!! I fire the ball in.

If I am shooting a shot straight in I line up the left and right edges of the cue ball with the left and right edges of the object and shoot straight through using the center of both balls as a final reference point.

Now like I said using this method I use no allowance for English so long as I do not go more than a single tip or less from center and it doesn't matter what size table I play on. The best part about this aiming method is that I do not have to look back and forth between the object ball and the cue ball and because I can see both and where I am hitting the cue all at the same time. Now, I do have a good stroke and good fundamentals but I suspect that anyone could use this method effectively with a little practice!!!:)

What do you all think!! Try it you will like it!!:)
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Hi there,
Just want to clarify something.
You said:
"If I want to cut the object ball left I then line up the left side of the cue ball with my contact point on the right side of the object ball take a few warm-up strokes and fire."

But if you would line up the left edge of the cue ball with the contact point on the right side of the object ball, you would overcut all your shots. I think what you are doing is centering the contact point between the right edge of the object ball and the left edge of the cue ball (meaning between the overlap between the 2 balls).
The contact point is always placed half the distance of the overlap between cue ball and object ball.
The only time you would be lining the left edge of the cue ball with your contact point on the right side of the object ball would be for very thin cuts.
 
Once again...as I'm coming to undertand....the devil is not lost in the details, but lost in the verbage.
 
Ain't that the truth!!

Thunderball said:
Once again...as I'm coming to undertand....the devil is not lost in the details, but lost in the verbage.
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"Hu I did try it. I do like it! New to me no doubt....I'm strictly a ghost baller or feel player. This is why I love having a table at home...can just read it and try it. Instant results lol."

Craig's thread, I'm just an innocent bystander! :D :D :D

I may give Craig's aiming system a try though. I aim using contact points on most shots, edge to overlap on very thin shots. The more I complicate aiming the more I miss.

Hu
 
I got a good laugh

Thunderball said:
lol..my apologies to both hu and craig....sorry to each and all.
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No problem at all here, I got a good laugh out of the combination of the two posts!

I read about Craig's method in the wee hours last night. I have to give it another look and a try when a little more of my brain is functioning. I've found Craig's information on pretty much anything to be very good for years now so the way he pockets balls deserves a hard look.

Hu
 
You're a genius. Simple. Elegant. Useable. All of the diagrams and actual configuration drawings along with a mathematically equation just isn't practical under most situations. Just make the balls with what you've learned over the years from better players. That is a good "system."
 
I don't think very many people will be interested in trying it, Craig. It's too simple. :wink:

Roger
 
manwon said:
I thought I would share an aiming method that I have been using all my life. I have always been able to visualize the proper line of aim, however, until recently I never thought about why. The way I have been aiming is edge to edge, and at least for me where I hit the cue ball doesn't change how I aim each and every shot no matter what English I happen to apply. Now, I don't know if it is just something that is unique to me or if it will work for everyone.

When I get down behind the cue ball and line up on the object ball I put the right and left edge directly in a straight line with the right and left edge of the object ball. If I want to cut the object ball left I then line up the left side of the cue ball with my contact point on the right side of the object ball take a few warm-up strokes and fire. If I want to cut the ball right, I line up the right side of the cue ball with left side of the object and take a few warm-up strokes and bam!!! I fire the ball in.

If I am shooting a shot straight in I line up the left and right edges of the cue ball with the left and right edges of the object and shoot straight through using the center of both balls as a final reference point.

Now like I said using this method I use no allowance for English so long as I do not go more than a single tip or less from center and it doesn't matter what size table I play on. The best part about this aiming method is that I do not have to look back and forth between the object ball and the cue ball and because I can see both and where I am hitting the cue all at the same time. Now, I do have a good stroke and good fundamentals but I suspect that anyone could use this method effectively with a little practice!!!:)

What do you all think!! Try it you will like it!!:)
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When I read this over in the morning light this is pretty much the way I play. I see the cue ball as pushing the object ball into the pocket hitting the edge furthest away from the pocket. It is hilarious watching me set up half ball, third ball, quarter ball shots and trying to pocket balls by fractions. I can't pocket a ball from two diamonds away from the hole, it just isn't the way I see things. I see all of these shots as you say, as essentially the same hit. The angle going to it is different but I'm hitting the object ball in the same place, 180 degrees from the pocket.

Hu
 
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