DeeDeeCues
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Clicks? We are talking about real pool, not computer pool. I don't click anything.
He's a poker, wants to be a stroker
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Clicks? We are talking about real pool, not computer pool. I don't click anything.
Go to any pool hall,, turn your back and listen. You may be able to distinguish a soft hit to a grand slam, depends on your knowledge level. After you do that report back and tell us what you hear .
You may be still in 1980 where gauge of power was measured in how many times the cue ball goes up and down the table .
Up and down up and down .
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DeeDeeCues
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I know what playing pool sounds like. Don't really see how that helps. By the time you hear any sound, the shot is out of your control, so you might as well watch the shot.
This guy is frustrated to tears. He needs to rebuild his stroke from the basics. He probably should take eight or ten hours to stroke his cue without even hitting a cuebsll.
A timing method, such as, "ladies and gentlemen", "ready, set go", "one two three" or even "great big boobies", may help. Anything to get a slow backstroke of two counts and a forward stroke of one, with follow through. The same timing is used for all shots. It helped my stroke a lot.
I think everyone who has gotten to A level or better has sold everything and quit the game at least twice.
Try, try again.
Opposite handed and practicing shots with eyes closed/ body still. Both helped me.
Try, try again.
Opposite handed and practicing shots with eyes closed/ body still. Both helped me.
Am attempting to help a buddy ... despite lessons, books, DVDs and watching YouTube, he has been unable to consistently stroke through the ball vs. hit it.
It's sad ... he makes a lot of shots, but is unable to repeatedly draw the ball.
He's almost in tears and wants to give up.
Ideas welcomed or send me notes -- john_oleson@comcast.net
P.S. I could let him suffer, tell him it's hopeless and get a good deal on some cues
Try setting him up with the following shot and placing a round white sticker where the X is and tell him to make the 1B (you could easily leave that out of the equation and have him shoot the CB into the pocket) and tell him to go slow and end with the tip on the X. Going slow is the key, if he's poking it's coming from memory so you need to slow him down to get him to create a new muscle memory.
May or may not work but it's an option.
Take all the balls off the table and just start shooting the cue ball into pockets. Or leave the balls on the table and shoot them directly into pockets. Either way, remove the object ball from the equation for the time being. I would start by pulling the cue ball slower than is comfortable for him (which probably isn’t as slow as he thinks), count to two and deliver the cue and freeze. Count to three before standing up or removing the cue from its finish position.
I think it’s important to start with an easy target (the pockets) because I expect part of his inability to make changes stems from anxiety over successfully executing the shot. So remove that distraction to focus on just the stroke and reintroduce everything else once he has a feel for it.
I think it’s important to start with an easy target (the pockets) because I expect part of his inability to make changes stems from anxiety over successfully executing the shot. So remove that distraction to focus on just the stroke and reintroduce everything else once he has a feel for it.
Ghost of OBC
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This is a great suggestion that really helped me. I had developed a weird fear about touching the table with the cue tip that was causing me to poke. Doing this drill, and deliberately setting the tip down on the "x" for a few minutes got me sorted right out.
You can see regular players in pretty much every pool hall and league that never figure it out. They plateau at rarely if ever running out a rack.
I been trying to get you to come "get them lessons" in one pocket for years now! You have to stop being SCARED!! AHAHAHAHHAHA
Hope you are well Johnny! I will get in touch soon.
TFT
Hope you are well Johnny! I will get in touch soon.
TFT
PS> I KNOW YOU ARE DOIN THIS "its for a friend thing" LOL!!Am attempting to help a buddy ... despite lessons, books, DVDs and watching YouTube, he has been unable to consistently stroke through the ball vs. hit it.
It's sad ... he makes a lot of shots, but is unable to repeatedly draw the ball.
He's almost in tears and wants to give up.
Ideas welcomed or send me notes -- john_oleson@comcast.net
P.S. I could let him suffer, tell him it's hopeless and get a good deal on some cues
I'm sure they have had plenty of people over the years giving them advice. You have to be able to figure things out and adjust.
Two things I would try:
1) use some technology. There are a lot of ways to use a smart phone, but an easy one is to get a phone and video some slow motion side shots of a draw shot. You will be able to see tip placement at address of the ball and the difference between tip location at setup vs execution.
2) change grip. have him shoot holding the cue with just one finger. I've seen a lot of shots go wrong because of a death grip (or a quick "grab" of the cue right at execution).
-td
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