Hey Old Guys--does the fire still burn?

Was it as fun the second time, as the first, working your way up the learning curve?

I remember waking up a 4 am thinking of a shot I needed to go practice. Being higher up on the flatter end of the learning curve now, I don't do that so much.

I'm thinking you might be lucky getting to do it twice? Not to dismiss what you went through, but maybe?


Jeff Livingston

Jeff, you need to take up one pocket and three cushion billiards.
...those games will wake you up at four AM...at any age.
 
As we get up there in age, for those of us still playing and competing, we all like to compare ourselves to the point and the age in our lives that we played our very best. We wonder how far we are from that level - how many games on the wire in a race to 9 would I need at my current age of 60, to compete with myself when I was 25 years old and playing my best? We'll never know the answer to that, but it's fun to speculate.

For most of us, our overall knowledge of strategy and defensive skills - safety and kicking, as well as knowledge of proper 9-ball pattern position play, which you only learn by playing for many years, should somewhat offset the decline in shotmaking - particularly the longer shots.
Another factor, I assume most here who grew up playing in the 1960s, 70s or 80s generally played on standard 9-foot tables with 5-inch corners and 5-1/2" sides, because that's all there was back then, so naturally we played better on those tables, as opposed to the tighter pocket tables many of us likely play on now.

As far as competing, I'd guess most of us are just as competitive and hate to lose just as much as we did years ago. However, we should have learned from years of experience how to handle ourselves during a match / tournament, that hopefully might give us a little advantage over a young player who may be less apt to handle the adversity that usually comes up at some point during a match / tournament.
 
well thanks deanoc. I wasn't asking if i could make a living at pool, that would make me an idiot. Or i could be like some passive/aggressive dude that didn't read or grasp what he read. You might try rereading the post. If you have nothing to contribute why don't you find a pool cue to sell without photos and crow to the world about what a great deal you gave the buyer.

Bob

lol :d :d :d
 
And it also depends on where each person is in their life
With age, work, time available, the friends they have, and
The money they have to spare..... all of which fall behind
What kind of shape each is in physically.

In my 30's the fire was still strong, in my 40's it was just as
Strong... but I learned that no matter win or lose, or who I
Was playing against... I was just competing against myself.

The fire started to fade.... now at almost 60, I still like
To compete, but now the need to prove myself has almost
Disappeared ... NOT gone... just not as important.....

What remains, and has always been there is the desire to
Show those that don't know, the beauty of the game, and
How it can be played.

TD

Extremely well said, sir. I have macular degeneration in my left, dominant eye. Can't play a lick any more, and that frustrates hell out of me. But I look at the table and still see the layout, the easiest way to get from 1 to 9 without moving that white ball any more than necessary.

Funny thing is when I was playing with my 'A' game, I just saw the table and did what I saw. I knew the beauty was there, but didn't savor it. Didn't take the time to enjoy the pattern of the balls, the perception of it, the knowing that what I saw on that cloth canvas would get done. Now I can see the beauty of the canvas, but I can no longer paint it.

Life can sure as hell teach us lessons we don't want to learn. 8-(
 
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So after many years absence I started to play tournaments again. I keep doing the two step. I lost to guys I would have gladly put the money down and played. Sadly, they not only beat me, but I stunk! I just didn't have "it". I didn't have focus or drive. I was just a guy with a pool cue in his hand. When I go back to my home room against the same guys, I can still play.

I've been hoping to pull a Rocky like he did in "Rocky Balboa". You know, bounce the young guys around a little and make them feel a little pain inflicted by a senior.

So my question is, is this the end? Am I done with competitive pool? Can I ever get back the "Eye of the Tiger" like days of old? Have you ever faced this demon? How were you able to get your groove back?

Bob

NO! You aren't done, unless you want to be, or your body or mind have deteriorated, past the point of no return.
We all have a comfort zone and if you haven't been out of it for a long time, when you do go out , there is too much stimulus going on to overcome.
We also get used to the pecking order in the pool room and so we still beat the guys we always beat and etc.
You have to do something different.
Number 1 , Practice with a purpose!
Not just knocking balls around , figure out where your weaknesses are and practice those until they are strengths. Banking? long cut shots ? Long straight ins were mine lately.
As I am cleaning that up, I am realising a couple of faults in my set up.
I never really used a pre shot routine which I now understand, hurt me.
Confidence is the key!
But it can't be false confidence, you have to have proven to yourself that you can play!
I also recommend Joe Tuckers drills for corner pocket and side pockets, if you do them , you will improve!
Number 2 , You have to start traveling and playing new players, not some guy that's trying to make a living off pool, guys that play like you, or a little better or worse , just for the experience of being anywhere and feeling comfortable.
If you can find a really good player who will play for nothing or cheap, if you can afford it ,by all means test yourself, and try to learn from them.
Once you get back in dead punch , there won't be a 10th as many people wanting to play for money as there might be right now.
I just watched a tape by Black Jack Sapolis on You Tube and I have heard all the information before many times , but the way he put it together clicked with me and in the last few days I have shattered all my practice records from the last couple of months and some from when I first came back to Ohio 4 years ago.
I am excited and I know that as long as God will allow my body and mind to hold up
I am going to keep improving and hopefully one day play better than I ever did before.
Which would be pretty sporty for 68 years old!
Good Luck
 
I never really had it but starting to play better than ever. Do what I’m doing..... have fun and lots of it. No mountains to climb. I took up OnePocket a few years ago and pool is better than ever. The good days are great .... if I’m
having a bad day I look forward to the next good day.
 
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I played pool nearly every day for fifteen years from age 18 to 33. My entire life revolved around the pool table and making money, and I had zero interest in politics, movies or anything else for that matter. I then had an epiphany where I realized my life was completely out of balance and stopped playing pool altogether for three years. I learned to enjoy other things.

When I returned to pool, it was with a whole new attitude, where playing for money was not paramount and it was only one part of my life. I enjoyed the game more but never played quite as well as I did before. I continued to play off and on (yes, sometimes for money) for the next thirty years. It is only in the last few years that I have nearly lost all desire to practice and play, with arthritic shoulders playing a part in keeping me off the table as well.

I still consider myself a pool player, I will be one for life! I know that I feel more complete when I'm playing well and when I'm not playing something is missing from my life. I don't know if I'll ever have that elated feeling of being in dead stroke again, but I haven't forgotten those times where I felt in complete control of myself and the table. For me, it was then that I was the highest I've ever felt in life, almost orgasmic when you feel like you can make any shot and do anything you want. I've been there and miss that. C'est la vie. :)
 
Jeff, you need to take up one pocket and three cushion billiards.
...those games will wake you up at four AM...at any age.

I've played some billiards this year on Big Dog's new heated table. I've always like 3-C as I know many of the shots after studying Byrne's book years ago. Also, when young and broke, we played 2 or more banks on the 8-ball, as that prolonged the game so we got our quarter's worth most every time. el Cheapo, we were.

About a month or so ago, I played some 1-Pocket with a vet who helped me learn some of the shots. (note: no joke attached)

Those are like wrinkles....try to cover 'em up or just go with the flow?



Jeff, flowing somewhat, Livingston
 
Yes

At 67 the fire still burns. I started back playing again a few years ago after about a 40 year absence.

I am laying down alibis here, but age and a lack of competition is an issue and I don't see my self improving much.

The pool hall closed do to a lack of player interest and the only available competition is on poorly kept bar box tables in bars that have their own goffy rules.

I have a good 9' table in my big garage, but not enough drive to put in a bunch of practice. Once or twice a year I make the trip to Anchorage to play in the only real tournaments held on good 9' Diamond tables with BCA rules.

If I could ever swing a 9' Diamond for my use I think I could compete better, but those younger guys are better then me, no matter how many excuses I come up with.

I still enjoy the competition and if I have a good match and they don't bring their A game I have a good chance of winning.
 
My passion for pool and practicing is greater than ever, at 60. Main reason I think is that having had both shoulders replaced due to numerous injuries and arthritic joint deterioration, has limited me to playing no more than 2-3 times a week for a few hours per session. With such limited practice / playing time at the table, to be able to have a chance at remaining competitive with the younger players, I really have to focus and get everything I can out of the time I do play, so I really look forward to those sessions more than I ever recall years ago when I was physically able to play all I wanted. I'm still hopeful I'll eventually be able to start playing more sessions per week and more hours per session, but I've learned to be patient and listen to my shoulder when it tells me I need to rest it, which is most of the time. Sucks getting old!
 
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