History of Joint Protectors?

GoldCrown said:
That really sucks. You should have tracked her down and bit her tits. I have an M04. It warped slightly. I had the wrap changed and shaft reduced but I love it. $100 around 1979
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Yeah, I didn’t have the money to get to the MO-4. I think the MO-3 was maybe $75-$80 in Nashville, September 1975, not long after he opened the Memphis location. First batch that made it to Nashville.

It was the right move to let it go. I’ve searched several times and don’t see what I remember it looking like, I think I paid $50 for it new around 1972. I thought I remembered Adams, but apparently not.
 
I caught the last tech train leaving the station. I learned DOS and very little after that. At work, I depended on books and paper.
 
garczar said:
I always kept mine in a ziploc bag. Oh, you mean cue joints. My bad. ;)
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GoldCrown said:
I made some customs for myself. Came out pretty good. They are in a drawer .. too nice to use. I’m slightly mentally irregular. I like the cheap plastic JP’s for general use… traveling.
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I have very few joint protectors. I keep saying I am going to get some made for my "better" cues, but never get around to it. Then I keep thinking to make some, and never get around to it.

The only ones I have that I really dig are the ebony with ivory dashed ring JPs that Paul Dayton made to match the rings on my Dayton cue, they came with the cue.

Oh, and I have original JPs for one of my better Huebler cues.
 
Chopdoc said:
I have very few joint protectors. I keep saying I am going to get some made for my "better" cues, but never get around to it. Then I keep thinking to make some, and never get around to it.

The only ones I have that I really dig are the ebony with ivory dashed ring JPs that Paul Dayton made to match the rings on my Dayton cue, they came with the cue.

Oh, and I have original JPs for one of my better Huebler cues.
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You should consider getting a few and not getting around to it. This the best way to not get some. They are good to not have.
 
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Chopdoc said:
I have very few joint protectors. I keep saying I am going to get some made for my "better" cues, but never get around to it. Then I keep thinking to make some, and never get around to it.

The only ones I have that I really dig are the ebony with ivory dashed ring JPs that Paul Dayton made to match the rings on my Dayton cue, they came with the cue.

Oh, and I have original JPs for one of my better Huebler cues.
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Those sound identical to the JP's I had Paul make for the cue I ordered from him back in '03. BEM forearm, four point/four veneer ebony Hoppe with a stainless 5/16-14 joint, ivory dash joint rings on the cue and JP's. I ended up trading it with one of the vendors at The Derby for the Nitti I have now. It was a beautiful and great playing cue.
 
Jimmy_Betmore said:
Those sound identical to the JP's I had Paul make for the cue I ordered from him back in '03. BEM forearm, four point/four veneer ebony Hoppe with a stainless 5/16-14 joint, ivory dash joint rings on the cue and JP's. I ended up trading it with one of the vendors at The Derby for the Nitti I have now. It was a beautiful and great playing cue.
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I probably have the first joint protector in the history of pool cues. Well at least modern pool cues. My first Joss I bought in 1976 and the ivory joint suffered a crack fairly early on. That sometimes happened. Tim Scruggs was working at Joss at the time, and not only did he replace the ivory joint, but he made me a joint protector out of maple and tapped a 3/8 X 10 thread, that covered the joint for some warmth. I coated the inside with a section of paper towel. You can see where some Scotch tape ends to secure it. That was 1976. I've not heard of an earlier joint protector, though maybe there is one out there.

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WildWing said:
I probably have the first joint protector in the history of pool cues. Well at least modern pool cues. My first Joss I bought in 1976 and the ivory joint suffered a crack fairly early on. That sometimes happened. Tim Scruggs was working at Joss at the time, and not only did he replace the ivory joint, but he made me a joint protector out of maple and tapped a 3/8 X 10 thread, that covered the joint for some warmth. I coated the inside with a section of paper towel. You can see where some Scotch tape ends to secure it. That was 1976. I've not heard of an earlier joint protector, though maybe there is one out there.

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Haha...I like how you had to explain that ivory joints tend to crack. I had one that was cracked too. You know the days when we were breaking with our shooting cues.

Damn....ivory ban has been so long now that new players probably don't know the little nuances of ivory.
 
billiards_watch said:
Haha...I like how you had to explain that ivory joints tend to crack. I had one that was cracked too. You know the days when we were breaking with our shooting cues.

Damn....ivory ban has been so long now that new players probably don't know the little nuances of ivory.
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Some ivory is more prone to cracking than other ivory. It's trial and error. In my experience, if the ivory had not sat around for a long time, it might crack on a joint or ferrule. If the cue had a piloted ivory joint, or countersunk ivory joint, it might crack. If the ivory had sat around longer in a nice environment, it had a better chance. And, if the joint was a flat face, no countersink, it had a better chance. I have cues with decades old ivory joints, because they meet the requirements.
 
My recollection is that JPs weren't around in '77 and then slowly started showing up in the early to mid '80s. Two things to consider: I grew up in the Deep South and spent '79 through '82 in the Deepest South -- Ole Miss. While I lived in Oxford, two piece cues began showing up more commonly, but JPs were still way behind them.

Bear in mind that the Meucci place was less than an hour up the road from Oxford.
 
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Take to long to take off is a joke lol they take a second to take off.
I hear the same thing about golf head covers . I slide it off and stick it in my pocket as I’m walking to the ball. Then slide it back on as I’m walking back to my bag. Adds no time. You know what it does do ? Eliminates my expensive golf clubs from banging together .. between the annoying noise and the damage I’m using them whether anyone likes it or not.

Back to the jps lol I’m not sure they are needed but I like them so f it. back when I had high end cues it was a nice thing to add To the . Like chrome on a car. It doesn’t make you go faster but it looks pretty lol
 
WildWing said:
I probably have the first joint protector in the history of pool cues. Well at least modern pool cues. My first Joss I bought in 1976 and the ivory joint suffered a crack fairly early on. That sometimes happened. Tim Scruggs was working at Joss at the time, and not only did he replace the ivory joint, but he made me a joint protector out of maple and tapped a 3/8 X 10 thread, that covered the joint for some warmth. I coated the inside with a section of paper towel. You can see where some Scotch tape ends to secure it. That was 1976. I've not heard of an earlier joint protector, though maybe there is one out there.

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Scruggs you say...
 
WildWing said:
I probably have the first joint protector in the history of pool cues. Well at least modern pool cues. My first Joss I bought in 1976 and the ivory joint suffered a crack fairly early on. That sometimes happened. Tim Scruggs was working at Joss at the time, and not only did he replace the ivory joint, but he made me a joint protector out of maple and tapped a 3/8 X 10 thread, that covered the joint for some warmth. I coated the inside with a section of paper towel. You can see where some Scotch tape ends to secure it. That was 1976. I've not heard of an earlier joint protector, though maybe there is one out there.

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I get up, get some coffee, ready for a day of sifting through cue history and chasing mystery. This MF'r shows up with dates, pictures, transcripts, receipts...everything short of fingerprints.

I'm waiting on an email on a hot 1976 Budweiser cue deal when pool cue Rain Man here show up and says July 4th 1976 was a Tuesday and it was sunny and 80 degrees in Maryland when Tim Scruggs made me a joint protector. And he stuffed a Bounty paper towel in it that he bought from Rosie herself. With Scotch tape? I'm going to check on that 3M claim big boy. That looks like cheap import tape to me. :rolleyes:

You got a receipt for that paper towel tough guy?

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Tell me Professor, is that an illusion or does that thing actually cover the entire joint collar and rings?
 
WildWing said:
I probably have the first joint protector in the history of pool cues. Well at least modern pool cues. My first Joss I bought in 1976 and the ivory joint suffered a crack fairly early on. That sometimes happened. Tim Scruggs was working at Joss at the time, and not only did he replace the ivory joint, but he made me a joint protector out of maple and tapped a 3/8 X 10 thread, that covered the joint for some warmth. I coated the inside with a section of paper towel. You can see where some Scotch tape ends to secure it. That was 1976. I've not heard of an earlier joint protector, though maybe there is one out there.

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They are rare.... Sneaky Pete JP's. How cool.
 
I love JP's, they make it so much easier to grab the butt/shafts in my case. Even better they add a little bit of flair to the top of your cue like a jaunty little hat.

WTF... you would deny your cues hats. Don't be a fucking monster...
 
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