I find tournament blue the most playable so that's what I picked. If you're looking for more old school charm, there really is nothing wrong with green either. I think t. blue films better so that could also have something to do with it being popular on televised events. I've never seen it in person but I hear camel is fine for vision also. I believe when I recloth I'm going with english green for a change of pace.Any chance you remember where it was posted? Home setup thread maybe? The one we are looking at was on the shelves in the back and is white oak. I will post some pics of the rails in a moment.
The cloth comments are very much what I came here for. I did not think about eye strain and being able to see the balls, etc. I will have some follow up questions on that for sure.
This is primarily just a pool room, with a wet bar and deck off the front. A place to relax and for me to play pool after the kids are in bed instead of watching TV. Hopefully once COVID is over, we can have guest again. Because of where we live, we have a lot of friends come and stay with us to ski and hike, etc.
I read some on a carbon fiber shafts, and I just felt so lost, I skipped it. I would like to stay in the $100 to $150 range for the first set of cues that will become our "house" cues. I was thinking down the road I might get myself a nicer one, but probably play with the house cues against guest...or get something that doesn't look to much different so they can't tell...lol. If that is going to be a carbon fiber shaft down the road...should probably go the same way for the house cues so they can look similar to an untrained eye. I am fully open to any suggestions..please.
Yes, as mentioned I didn't even think about it. At least I thought to ask the experts. That definitely takes out the mocha and slate grey then. So more toward the tournament blue, powder blue, camel and grey. Can someone rank some of the colors for playability? I have good eye sight, but I think I could steer the boss with the playability excuse. She has terrible eyesight...which worked out for me when I asked her out.
As for the light...I am going to start without one. That particular room only has 8 ft ceilings and when I re-did it, I put 6 LED pot lights lengthwise along the 15ft space and the kitchen sits back in a nook with a pair as well. Is it pretty darn bright at night...but once the table is in, I may searching the threads here.
Thanks...I was thinking under the rug so you couldn't see them and would avoid what you are saying. Maybe a dumb idea. My fear was more about the feet settling down into the wood and then the table not being level. We are 4 plus hours from Denver, so not sure how easy it would be to get a mechanic up to re-level the table. Could do 1/2" just to spread the weight out...maybe a question for the installer.
You are absolutely right. I am buying the table for me, but the “house” cues have ZERO to do with pool. I will never use them...it’s about hospitality and providing guest with a nice cue that makes them feel good. None of my friends play pool more then casually at a bar and none own their own tables. I just want them to feel like I am handing them a nice stick to play with (without me spending more then $150).I treat guests like gold. I'm sure you like to as well. That does not mean I over-think what cue they use because I GUARANTEE they aren't thinking about it 1/2 as hard as you are. And anyone that had ever played pool in a bar (that's many peoples extent of experience) was a grungy, dirty, crooked, tip-failing, one piece cue. And they had fun. YOU hand them a clean, straight, well-tipped and conditioned house cue that looks like new and they will likely be thrilled!
And it's YOUR room, so it's almost expected that you have your OWN cue. Are you thinking you'll have to lessen your own equipment quality because some schmuck friend guest came over to enjoy your table? What you both play with need to be "Even Steven" looking?
I am being a little snarky but it's only because I get a sense this has little to do with pool or a pool room and more like a decorative venture (see yuppie). To answer your question however I have 4 guest house cues, new, clean, excellent shape in a rack on the wall. Straight as an arrow, 18, 19 an 20oz. They never leave the house so 1 piece works and frankly they wear better than cheap two-piece cues would (the price you alluded to).
I use my player cue or my sneaky pete which I've had 40 years. NO ONE gets to use them. EVER. I don't want to hate on a friend or relative because they were too clumsy or lazy to care for my cue like I do. It doesn't mean I have to cheapen my experience by using the same thing I am providing them. But if your guest is going to "judge you" by the "looks" of the cue you have them use...you need new guests (or they should bring their own).
Sounds absolutely awesome! Can’t wait till you can post some pictures!I feel and share your excitement!! I started researching tables back in June of 2020 ... cancelled a new home project with horse barn .. that would have had a bonus room over the garage with a pool table .. so we decided to build a "cottage" in back of our house as a "man cave" with a room with a billiard table, a separate "wet bar", a full bath, and a bedroom that willl be used as my ammo reloading room.
So .. I have a Diamond furniture model table in a warehouse waiting for set up .. (the last one they had as they were discontinued as all of their tables will now feature the PRO CUT pockets only). This table has pockets smaller than the LEAGUE cut AND 1/4" LARGER than the pro cut. 8' length. Table is OAK stained Cherry .. and I built a light box tha holds 4 LED tubes (7500 lumens), with an Escutcheon to mount to the ceiling, also built a few DRINK RAILS .. two of which are notched to hold cues.
We put wood look porcelain tile on the floor, have an oriental rug (10' * 13') that will go under the table. Bought a McDermott G204 playing cue, and one of McDermott's Star (imported) break cues, along with a 2nd Star cue for friends. Will add another shortly. Upgraded the tips on the playing cues as well as the break cue. Bought Aramith Super Aramith Pro balls .. and built a cue rack with a box for the balls (all built items are made of the same oak as the table .. and I got the Cherry stain from the Diamond supplier so all wood items will match.
Chomping at the bit to get this up and running .. but construction has delayed due to Covid and holidays .. probably another 4-6 weeks .. and I will then be able to start playing on my table in my "Pub and Billiard" room.
Awesome stuff. Did you work with Dave? He is suggesting I stick with the pro cut pockets. I don’t personally have enough experience to pick either way, so probably just trust him.I also live in a Colorado ski town that is close to two hours away from Denver so I have built my own pool room and have a big Diamond. I have mine on a concrete floor that is heated and it does not move around too much. I looked at the league cut pockets when ordering but went with Procut pockets and am very glad I did. When I do get down to the flats and play with the killers I can at least hang with them.
I received a Magic Rack combo set for Christmas and so far I love it.
I would agree that it is much easier to hand a casual player a house cue then one of my better cues, the cues do get knocked around by my friends and they don't even realize when they do it.
No I ordered directly from Diamond and it worked out great. Originally I had decided on league cuts and Diamond was hesitant, when I changed my mind I could here people cheering in the background at the Diamond office when I was on the phone. I live just outside of Vail.Awesome stuff. Did you work with Dave? He is suggesting I stick with the pro cut pockets. I don’t personally have enough experience to pick either way, so probably just trust him.
are you in Winterpark?
2 hours from Denver on Monday afternoon ;-). Man I-70 is getting rough! Hopefully you are getting some good turns this season. Even during the holidays, Aspen has been dead. Like ski onto the lifts on Saturday slow. Just hope all the small places survive this economically. Tough times...but the summer season was very very good.No I ordered directly from Diamond and it worked out great. Originally I had decided on league cuts and Diamond was hesitant, when I changed my mind I could here people cheering in the background at the Diamond office when I was on the phone. I live just outside of Vail.
Yes I-70 is brutal. I need to be on my A-game when I make the trek. So many aggressive drivers. Many businesses have set records in Vail this summer and fall and there are thousands of people up here. Getting some snow would be good but things are dry so far. Let me know if you have any questions I am a pool freak and have seen it or done it all.2 hours from Denver on Monday afternoon ;-). Man I-70 is getting rough! Hopefully you are getting some good turns this season. Even during the holidays, Aspen has been dead. Like ski onto the lifts on Saturday slow. Just hope all the small places survive this economically. Tough times...but the summer season was very very good.
Not to mention that although it may not seem like much, a three-quarter inch height increase in the table surface is significant unless the table height is borderline low as is.I personally would not put plywood under the feet. Being inside your own home, your family might be playing barefoot or socks only at times. I can see bruising your toes a lot on a square board.
I would assume some accessories should come with a new Diamond pool table purchase. I guess you can try, but if the accessories provided are not of the quality you would like, it’s not likely they are going to be willing to upgrade and let you pick and choose exactly what balls, cues and miscellaneous accessories you want to go with it.Hi everyone, I hope you all had good holidays and people are staying healthy and safe. I grew up with a 6ft bar table and played just for fun. No drills, practice or decent balls/cues. Played every once in a while on dates or at bars, etc., but that is about it. I am approaching 40, have two very young kids (5 and 3), live in a Colorado ski town and the wife and I both work from home. About a month ago, the wife mentioned wanting a pool table and to move our offices to a different part of the house and make a game room. I initially said no, but then slept on it and thought it was a great idea.
Me being the person that I am, I immediately began researching tables, and am now working with the Diamond Rep (Dave) out of Denver on ordering a 7ft Diamond Professional table. Unfortunately, an 8ft would be tight in the space (19x15) due to it being an above the garage apartment with angled ceilings. I now have a couple questions as I look at the accessories for the table and thought maybe this group would be willing to help. I want it to be a nice playing experience for myself, wife and guest, but nothing crazy. So on with the questions:
- Should I try to negotiate any accessories with the table? I think Dave is more of a factory rep then a store owner that carries other company products?
- I have always been fascinated with pool on TV, even when I didn't play or have a table. I am thinking I will buy the Aramith Pro-Cup TV ball set so the colors are instinctual between watching on TV and playing. Any reason to look elsewhere or go standard colors?
- I know I probably will need a third cue for cutthroat, but to start, I was thinking of buying two Player C900 cues (19 oz) and a Players combo jump/break cue in the $100 to $125 range. Any other suggestions in this price range for cues and any suggestion on which of the Players jump break cues to pick?
- Any suggestions for chalk? We are currently deciding between grey, slate grey and mocha for the cloth. Does anyone make a decent chalk that matches these colors well?
- What else might we need? A brush and rack?
- Are people using those plastic templates that you put the balls on top of for their home tables/practice? Good to have both types?
- Lastly, the table will be on the second floor and on a pine hardwood floor. Yes, it is soft (beetle kill pine), but in a mountain home, the rustic appearance of a beat up floor makes some sense. I am planning to put a rug down. What size? Also, should I cut some plywood squares (maybe 12" x12") for under each foot to help the table from settling (as much)? Maybe cut off the corners at a 45 degree angle? The table has some height adjustment (type 3 legs) correct? I would assume a player wouldn't really notice the 3/4" height increase? I don't know what the bottom of the feet look like and have not been able to find pictures.
Thanks so much for all the help!!!
The dealer I bought my Diamond from said it came with a "standard accessory pack" that included a basic set of balls, two cues, and chalk.I would assume some accessories should come with a new Diamond pool table purchase. I guess you can try, but if the accessories provided are not of the quality you would like, it’s not likely they are going to be willing to upgrade and let you pick and choose exactly what balls, cues and miscellaneous accessories you want to go with it.
You are better off negotiating a fair $ credit off of your total $ sale price for the table with no accessories included, and then pick and choose exactly what accessories you desire and purchase them separately.
Do you or anyone else know the dimensions of the bottom square of the type 3 legs? ThanksIf the wood is soft and settling is a concern you could easily build simple (and attractive) wooden "rests" out of 1/2" thick oak boards. Just measure 1.5" wider than your legs in each dimension .. cut a piece of 1/2" inch thick oak board .. and trim it with 3/4 inch board. You can stain it to match. Regarding cloth color .. Willie Mosconi reached a time in his life that his eyes were failing .. he would ONLY play on tables with GOLD COLOR CLOTH as it was the easiest to see balls with minimal shadows. I was torn between gray and traditional green .. and went with green Simonis 860 tournament green. Cannot wait!!!!
Does your dealer have on on the floor? If not .. email Aaron .. the sales manager at Diamond. He is very responsive to customer inquiries.Do you or anyone else know the dimensions of the bottom square of the type 3 legs? Thanks
Contact Aaron .. I contacted him 3-4 times with questions and he responded quickly. He gave me the stain distributor they use for the stain on my table, gave me exact table dimensions and pocket dimensions (as my furniture model table had been discontinued .. I got the last one they had sitting in the warehouse).I will talk to my rep, but I am over 4 hours away from any dealer, etc. I do everything in my power to not drive to Denver.