Homemade pool table light

mohrt

Student of the Game
Silver Member
It looks strange seeing that tiny little fixture when I am so used to the big bulky overhead lights.

Exactly! Something like this would be perfect for the guys that hang lights at tournament events. Simple, light, easy to put up and pack up. I should start a production line. :D
 

bdorman

Dead money
Silver Member
Last summer I used LEDs to light a half-height brick wall that surrounds my patio.

I used these guys for supplies and they were very helpful and competitive with other prices I'd found. http://store.leddistributors.net/contact.html

I used 32 linear feet of the medium brightness (brightness is simply how many LED bulbs per foot) and I think it cost me about $240 including 48-watt power supply and plastic covering (necessary for outdoor use).

You might be able to improve the coverage with a 3-4" slanted side panel that's faced with either white paint or a reflective material like aluminum foil. It will re-direct light that's escaping into the room back on to the table.
 

DaveK

Still crazy after all these years
Silver Member
.... (brightness is simply how many LED bulbs per foot) ...

Sorry, this is incorrect. There are two common surface mount LEDs on these strips, the SMD3528 and the SMD5050. The SMD5050 chip has three discrete LEDs inside the (tiny little) package and it much brighter than a SMD3528 chip with only one LED. It also consumes about three times the power.

Note that the OP has SMD3528 strips, as do I. This is exactly why I asked about the part # of the strip.

Dave
 

mohrt

Student of the Game
Silver Member
Last summer I used LEDs to light a half-height brick wall that surrounds my patio.

I used these guys for supplies and they were very helpful and competitive with other prices I'd found. http://store.leddistributors.net/contact.html

I used 32 linear feet of the medium brightness (brightness is simply how many LED bulbs per foot) and I think it cost me about $240 including 48-watt power supply and plastic covering (necessary for outdoor use).

You might be able to improve the coverage with a 3-4" slanted side panel that's faced with either white paint or a reflective material like aluminum foil. It will re-direct light that's escaping into the room back on to the table.

I'll keep that in mind. I suppose the diffusors you see on Diamond lights have much of the same purpose: diffuse light but also direct it all to the table.
 

mohrt

Student of the Game
Silver Member
Sorry, this is incorrect. There are two common surface mount LEDs on these strips, the SMD3528 and the SMD5050. The SMD5050 chip has three discrete LEDs inside the (tiny little) package and it much brighter than a SMD3528 chip with only one LED. It also consumes about three times the power.

Note that the OP has SMD3528 strips, as do I. This is exactly why I asked about the part # of the strip.

Dave

That 600 light strip is ~0.8A so I use a 1A adapter for it. I'm going to try tripling up the lights witha 3A adapter and see how much brighter it looks. AFAIK you can either run the lights in series and up the amps, or run them in parallel and up the voltage.
 

DaveK

Still crazy after all these years
Silver Member
That 600 light strip is ~0.8A so I use a 1A adapter for it. I'm going to try tripling up the lights witha 3A adapter and see how much brighter it looks. AFAIK you can either run the lights in series and up the amps, or run them in parallel and up the voltage.

Ya, but the other way around. Wiring them in parallel requires a 12v supply at whatever current. Running 2 in series would need a 24v supply, 3 a 36v supply (not common).

My gut feel is they might be best in parallel. That drives all strips at their rated voltage, and lets them draw whatever current they will. In series they might not divide the voltage equally (although long strips should average out well) and one strip might be dimmer. I haven't tested this, but may .... If I get ambitious ... Ok likely not, but I will post up a pic some day.

Good thread, thanks for posting.

Dave
 

mohrt

Student of the Game
Silver Member
Ya, but the other way around. Wiring them in parallel requires a 12v supply at whatever current. Running 2 in series would need a 24v supply, 3 a 36v supply (not common).

My gut feel is they might be best in parallel. That drives all strips at their rated voltage, and lets them draw whatever current they will. In series they might not divide the voltage equally (although long strips should average out well) and one strip might be dimmer. I haven't tested this, but may .... If I get ambitious ... Ok likely not, but I will post up a pic some day.

Good thread, thanks for posting.

Dave

Yah I had that backwards :) I'll be running them in parallel.
 

puertorociii

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Very slick idea. I even think you can still double the width and go with 4 more strips for even more coverage.


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garczar

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
The link to the site that has table and grow lights is based here in Tulsa. Tom really knows a ton about all things electric and makes a good product. Early production LED's had a tendency to dim 6mos. after install. Current one's are both brighter and longer lasting.
 

cre8tuv

Registered
What if you paint the underside of the fixture white before you install the LEDs. It may improve things without adding any more lights.

You may even make the edging around the perimeter of the fixture a little thicker and cut a chamfer facing inward to help reflect the light to the edges of the table.
 

obsespool

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Nice idea! I have been curious for some time if brunswick or diamond have experilmented with led for their full size gold crown light or the diamond diffused model. Does anyone know? I suppose, if you wanted, you could copy the dimensions of either of those two great lights and see how they would do as led.
 

mohrt

Student of the Game
Silver Member
What if you paint the underside of the fixture white before you install the LEDs. It may improve things without adding any more lights.

You may even make the edging around the perimeter of the fixture a little thicker and cut a chamfer facing inward to help reflect the light to the edges of the table.

Good ideas, I'll keep them in mind.
 

pwd72s

recreational banger
Silver Member
Hell of an idea here! Really enjoying this thread. Yes, I think there could be a commercial demand for these.
 

JB Cases

www.jbcases.com
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I agree, they are cheap, do not put off heat, are very bright and consistent. These LEDS also diffuse very well on their own, no lines on the table to speak of. And I don't have this big ugly heavy thing handing over my table. :)

I love it. If you want to go into production contact me. Xiamen happens to be the LED capital of China and I have access to a shop with the exact capability to make these with ease.

Much better than the fluorescents with ballasts that go out all the time. My lights are horrible and fail all the time.
 

CreeDo

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I like the slim light. In general I think lighting is better when it's not noticed.

I remembering seeing this very low-profile light style in one of Eckert's videos.

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jonanthans

New member
Very nice and sleek!

You should seriously look into producing some of these. At the least you could sell them online. With the current LED pool lights going for over $500 you could sell them at half that and still make a huge profit.

looks great!!
 

mohrt

Student of the Game
Silver Member
Very nice and sleek!

You should seriously look into producing some of these. At the least you could sell them online. With the current LED pool lights going for over $500 you could sell them at half that and still make a huge profit.

looks great!!

It's already in progress. AZB will be the first to know :)
 
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