Hot*hot*hot* 6 point black boar
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Here's a buttsleeve pic of the original - floating Ivory points, interlaced Sterling Silver & Ivory crowns, Mother-of-Pearl inlays with Sterling Silver "eyelash" accents; all in Ebony. Circa mid-1990's.
TW
So is this one of the cues from God that we hear of?
I don't know Steve. Why don't you tell us? Someone asked a question and I tried to explain how it was done. Whats the problem?
Lol
All of a sudden you dont know.....you stated that most cuemakers use this TRICK......
Again I ask you, name some that dont use this little TRICK. Being you were trashing Searings and Black Boars, I guess there a couple that use the trick.
All of a sudden you dont know.....you stated that most cuemakers use this TRICK......
Again I ask you, name some that dont use this little TRICK. Being you were trashing Searings and Black Boars, I guess there a couple that use the trick.
Here's a buttsleeve pic of the original - floating Ivory points, interlaced Sterling Silver & Ivory crowns, Mother-of-Pearl inlays with Sterling Silver "eyelash" accents; all in Ebony. Circa mid-1990's.
TW
That is so amazing. We constantly hear all about Searing, Scianella, and Szamboti (who are great).....and then Thomas comes in with a picture of a buttsleeve and blows sh*t out of the water. Wow.....
You didn't really ask me. It was a sideways remark just phrased as a question. It's easy to tell which cue makers dont use the trick. Just look at their inlays and they are usually rounded at the edge.
Now as far as trashing BB and Searing......
I have never said that their work wasn't awesome and have in fact actually stated in this thread that this cue was very nice. I have commented that they are way over priced. But hey, that's my opinion. You want to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on a PJ then that's your business. I just think that it's crazy and there are MUCH better values out there. There is NOTHING they can do that dozens of other cue makers can't. Well except for in Tony's case where he actually "tunes" the cue to each and every customer.
And just for the record, if you actually believe that, I have a bridge I want to sell you in Brooklyn. Lol
Why are you so angry with me Steve? Is it because I tell it like it is and you don't like the fact that what I say may someday damage the resale value of your beloved Black Boars?
I would love to see what your take on BB would be if you didn't have the money you have. Wouldn't it be horrible if you have to live like the common folk?
And what's even funnier is "when" Thomas' cue was actually made. He was/is way ahead of his time and I still believe he is one of the best cue makers that ever lived.
Monstermash comments vs. Tikkler
Yes, as I stated, I feel that Thomas Wayne is the Grand Master of cuemakers. But "Monstermash", you know your comments to Steve should not have been made on AZ & I cannot understand why you lost your "cool". It seems that an apology is indicated. Paul Del Giudice.
Yes, as I stated, I feel that Thomas Wayne is the Grand Master of cuemakers. But "Monstermash", you know your comments to Steve should not have been made on AZ & I cannot understand why you lost your "cool". It seems that an apology is indicated. Paul Del Giudice.
I really don't understand why there should be potshots or negativity in the Gallery section.
No matter what the design, there is a cue or many cues that people will love or not love so much.
I used to ride motorcycles in California and a friend of mine told me to never put down another man's bike because that man is proud of it and it is what he chooses to ride no matter the circumstances.
As far as how a cue is made, especially if you are another cuemaker, why chime in and disturb this great thread of Steve's that is about beauty and functional art. Why not start a thread in the Ask the Cuemaker section to promote all you know and trade secrets of the great cue makers?
Are there better cue makers out there? There are many cue makers, but better, I don't know.
Jealousy is a very negative attribute especially to interject it in a man's thread that obviously has the resources to collect these masterpieces and is good enough to share it with other cue enthusiasts.
Steve, don't stop enjoying your love of cues and sharing your passion with us!!!!
I love cues!!!
--Jeff
No matter what the design, there is a cue or many cues that people will love or not love so much.
I used to ride motorcycles in California and a friend of mine told me to never put down another man's bike because that man is proud of it and it is what he chooses to ride no matter the circumstances.
As far as how a cue is made, especially if you are another cuemaker, why chime in and disturb this great thread of Steve's that is about beauty and functional art. Why not start a thread in the Ask the Cuemaker section to promote all you know and trade secrets of the great cue makers?
Are there better cue makers out there? There are many cue makers, but better, I don't know.
Jealousy is a very negative attribute especially to interject it in a man's thread that obviously has the resources to collect these masterpieces and is good enough to share it with other cue enthusiasts.
Steve, don't stop enjoying your love of cues and sharing your passion with us!!!!
I love cues!!!
--Jeff
You didn't really ask me. It was a sideways remark just phrased as a question. It's easy to tell which cue makers dont use the trick. Just look at their inlays and they are usually rounded at the edge.
Now as far as trashing BB and Searing......
I have never said that their work wasn't awesome and have in fact actually stated in this thread that this cue was very nice. I have commented that they are way over priced. But hey, that's my opinion. You want to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on a PJ then that's your business. I just think that it's crazy and there are MUCH better values out there. There is NOTHING they can do that dozens of other cue makers can't. Well except for in Tony's case where he actually "tunes" the cue to each and every customer.
And just for the record, if you actually believe that, I have a bridge I want to sell you in Brooklyn. Lol
Why are you so angry with me Steve? Is it because I tell it like it is and you don't like the fact that what I say may someday damage the resale value of your beloved Black Boars?
I would love to see what your take on BB would be if you didn't have the money you have. Wouldn't it be horrible if you have to live like the common folk?
Steve, keep rewarding yourself in any way you want but I am glad that you have chosen cues. I really enjoy seeing these masterpieces. The 6 pointer that started off this thread is stunning in its cleaness and beauty. Some of Tony's cues are a little elaborate for my taste, although is it impossible not to admire the artistry of his work. I am pretty sure that you don't get all of these beauties while thinking of their resale value. Man, naked envy is ugly.
Which comments are you referring to? Would it be the first post where I stated it was very nice and I answered a question for another member regarding inlays? Or are you referring to after when Steve tried to bait me like several others do on this forum?
Maybe a little self reflection is in order. This statement is not to bait you. It is just a alternative thought process.
Chris
I often get a good laugh when I see someone "explaining" how intricate inlays are actually super easy, if you just know the secrets. But I'm afraid your knowledge is a little dated - maybe a couple of decades or so. I haven't seen any cuemaker worth a damn filling oversized pockets with dyed epoxy for a long time.
Not that it wouldn't be handy though. The problem is, it's just so darn hard to find dye to match Sterling Silver and Ivory (photo 1 below) or fancy burls (photos 2, 3).
They say "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing", but in my experience a little ignorance is too. In the time I've been building cues - you know, the post-Balabushka era - top cuemakers have developed a huge arsenal of clever methods and skilled techniques that hobbyists and railbirds have absolutely no idea even exist. Nevertheless, there's no substitute for good old-fashioned hard work. The smallest end mills I typically use are 0.010" diameter, but my chisels and scalpel blades taper right on down to zero. Hand cutting pockets for razor sharp details in a single cue can often take several days.
Dyed epoxy indeed.
TW
I often get a good laugh when I see someone "explaining" how intricate inlays are actually super easy, if you just know the secrets. But I'm afraid your knowledge is a little dated - maybe a couple of decades or so. I haven't seen any cuemaker worth a damn filling oversized pockets with dyed epoxy for a long time.
Not that it wouldn't be handy though. The problem is, it's just so darn hard to find dye to match Sterling Silver and Ivory (photo 1 below) or fancy burls (photos 2, 3).
They say "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing", but in my experience a little ignorance is too. In the time I've been building cues - you know, the post-Balabushka era - top cuemakers have developed a huge arsenal of clever methods and skilled techniques that hobbyists and railbirds have absolutely no idea even exist. Nevertheless, there's no substitute for good old-fashioned hard work. The smallest end mills I typically use are 0.010" diameter, but my chisels and scalpel blades taper right on down to zero. Hand cutting pockets for razor sharp details in a single cue can often take several days.
Dyed epoxy indeed.
TW
Yes Thomas, you definately have a point. However, I was only commenting on the cue in question and the example I gave which was created the way I described. In the example I posted, you can obviously see that it was created this way because the diamonds are turned in the pocket. Also, as you mentioned, it is much more difficult when you are using burlwoods or anything other than ebony to get the dye color right.
As I have stated, I think you are one of the greatest cuemakers of all time. Unfortunately, there are a lot of others that do not put in the extra effort as you do. I have owned several of your cues in the past and they have all been outstanding.