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Sorry to hear of all the drama. Makes playing pool well a hard thing to do.
About the quote: Thinking you were wrong in the case of the accidently moved ball, I looked the rule up in the Team Manual, where the definition (as is many in the APA rule-set) is a grey area.
It states that if the accidental movement occurs during a shot, all balls accidentally moved MUST be replaced by the opponent after the shot is over and all balls have stopped rolling (page 49, Official Team Manual).
Key word of the rule: "MUST"
That said, although it was your call as to the placement of that moved ball, you made ZERO effort to "replace" the ball. I can understand him being upset about it. If you had done that to me, I would have quoted you the rule and had you get up and replace the ball. And if you had replaced it in a way that left me no shot after it was clear that there was an open 8-ball previously, I would have called you out for poor sportsmanship.
At the very least you should/could have gotten up and moved that ball somewhere close to where it originally was. In the "spirit of the rules" you owed that to your opponent. You should never try to win a game by some ticky-tack technicality. IMHO, it was bad sportsmanship on your part, and in the past I have never doubted anything on your part. You have always been a stand-up guy, but I just cannot side with you on this one.
Again, IMHO, what you should have done is gotten up and replaced the ball to as near the spot as you thought it was occupying and let the game continue and let the chips fall where they may. Me personally, I could not be happy with a win if that's the way it went down. YMMV
Please take no offense to this post. I still believe in you and your ethics, just not so much in this case.
Maniac
I appreciate your reply maniac and as the saying goes. .2 wrongs dont make a right.
For the sake of not making the post linger than it was i left things out that led to this occurance.
I am not trying to make an excuse for poor sportsmanship which i agree with you that i did display.
One is that i was not aware that it "must " be replaced.
Two was his actions before this incident occored with him moving my ball.
This is exactly what transpired during the match and will perhaps explain my actions.
He won the first rack. I won the second rack. Well i guess i need to explain the normal procedure here about the loser racking. Its open valley tables and the side door is left to retrieve the balls out. For the sake if sportsmanship the winner retrieves the balls out of the side and rolls them down to the loser who is waiting with the triangle to rack them.
Upon my retrieving the balls after winning the second rack he is visibly irritated about losing and slamming the balls in the triangle and muttering something ....whuch i could not understand because he had the mask on and i am hard of hearing to boot. I just ignored him.
I won the third rack and when i started to retrieve the balls he numped in frint of me and said he will get them himself and started slamming balls around in the triangle again. He is obviously very upset about losing another rack.
The next rack i break and run a few balls and upon immediately knowing i hit it wrong i walked i turned around and walked away from the table. He then walks to the table and yells at me asking if i am going to call a foul on myself. I asked what foul ? He said nothing touched a rail. I said i didnt see it .
He starts yelling about i aint a 5 and i dint nedd to win like that. I asked if any one else saw a foul ? No one spoke up. So i said i am not going to call a foul i nor anyone else saw. So he was all redfaced at this point and still muttering crap i could not understand.
Soni won that rack. Now i am on the hill and again i tried to retrieve the balls and he said to just get out of the way and started slamming balls in the triangle again. Itbwas real obvious he was highly pissed about losing racks to me and i tried to difuse the situation as he was racking thst i honestly did not see a fould and no one else saw it either and if any one had said i fouled i would have gladly given ball in hand as i didmt need to cheat to win.
Welm that really pissed him off and he kumped up and got in my face and started yelling again i was not a 5 and a cheater also. His wife numped up and got in front of him before it escaleted any farther.
The last rack is when he accidently moved my ball and i decided since he was being such an ass i said to leave the ball where it was.
Yea it was poor sportsmanship on my part and the wrong call as you brought up but i decided to show him i could be an ass also.
Of course he refused to shake my hand after losing and the more i think about it he could have been on something or drinking ...i dont know but other people told me later that he is a real sore loser.
