how are ya'll doing in league ?

9 ball regionals today. First match. First 4 shots. Missed 2 early. ....<snip>

</snip>.....Well that sounds bad but I got me a little 3 pack on him after that nonsense.
at the regionals my first match i go 4-0 on a guy and then cant make a 4ball out to save my life and lose 5 in a row
Wow... that's some nasty bi-polar play guys. I'm sure you both can balance it out with some more table time. (y)
 
how do you practice the mental game?
Books. Breathing. Breaks.

Those are what I try. Sometimes, it helps sometimes, it doesn't. Getting up on someone and then letting off used to be a big challenge of mine. I still have lapses but not nearly as often.

Learn the "flush the turd" mentality too. When you f up something. Don't linger on it beating yourself up. Flush that turd. Now you have a clean bowl... Similar to windshield mentality, look forward in the windshield, that turd is in the rearview mirror getting smaller by the second.

Hope that helps.
 
Last Thursday I had the worst Jeckyl and Hyde performance of my league career (USAPL Double Jeopary 8/10 ball).

Current Fargo: 434 (also APA 6 8-ball)

In 8-ball, got put up against a Fargo 504 (also APA 7 8-ball) and won outright 3-1. One of the 3 racks required a bit of luck as he broke and ran down to the 8-ball before tanking it, and I ran out from there. Otherwise, I shot great and didn't miss any "makeable" shots per my standard of play.

In 10-ball, got put up against a Fargo 420, and I basically climbed up on the table and took a big steamy shit in the side pocket. It...was...bad. I had issues with speed control on a newly refelted table (note: I had practiced on that table the day before so it's no excuse). Additionally at one point I hooked myself with ball in hand on the 5 and a fairly large shape zone on the 6 (don't let perfect be the enemy of good). This isn't even counting the outright misses, including one where I shanked it by 2 diamonds. Ended up losing 3-1.
 
Last Thursday I had the worst Jeckyl and Hyde performance of my league career (USAPL Double Jeopary 8/10 ball).

Current Fargo: 434 (also APA 6 8-ball)

In 8-ball, got put up against a Fargo 504 (also APA 7 8-ball) and won outright 3-1. One of the 3 racks required a bit of luck as he broke and ran down to the 8-ball before tanking it, and I ran out from there. Otherwise, I shot great and didn't miss any "makeable" shots per my standard of play.

In 10-ball, got put up against a Fargo 420, and I basically climbed up on the table and took a big steamy shit in the side pocket. It...was...bad. I had issues with speed control on a newly refelted table (note: I had practiced on that table the day before so it's no excuse). Additionally at one point I hooked myself with ball in hand on the 5 and a fairly large shape zone on the 6 (don't let perfect be the enemy of good). This isn't even counting the outright misses, including one where I shanked it by 2 diamonds. Ended up losing 3-1.
How in the world is a 434 Fargo an apa 6 and a 504 Fargo a 7? Lol

Must be an area thing
 
How in the world is a 434 Fargo an apa 6 and a 504 Fargo a 7? Lol

Must be an area thing
The APA 7 is easy to explain. Since SL7 is as high as you can go in APA 8-ball, a SL7 could range anywhere between a semi-pro to an incredibly good sandbagger.

I'm not sure about the SL6. I too am an APA SL6 in 8-ball and would not consider myself to be any higher than a 450 FR. But then, I actually know next to nothing about Fargo rates since I don't have one and never will.

What do you think an APA SL6 would be accurately rated in the Fargo system?
 
The APA 7 is easy to explain. Since SL7 is as high as you can go in APA 8-ball, a SL7 could range anywhere between a semi-pro to an incredibly good sandbagger.

I'm not sure about the SL6. I too am an APA SL6 in 8-ball and would not consider myself to be any higher than a 450 FR. But then, I actually know next to nothing about Fargo rates since I don't have one and never will.

What do you think an APA SL6 would be accurately rated in the Fargo system?
490 to 530 is about what the conversion translates to for a 6

I know several 7s in htownand the lowest one is 530 and 550 Fargo up to over 700
 
490 to 530 is about what the conversion translates to for a 6

I know several 7s in htownand the lowest one is 530 and 550 Fargo up to over 700
Thanks for the clarification! I prefer to err on a conservative side. I've never really considered myself nothing but an average pool player on a good day.
 
Thanks for the clarification! I prefer to err on a conservative side. I've never really considered myself nothing but an average pool player on a good day.
Tho I feel it varies depending on the talent from that area

Last regionals I played a guy from out of town who was recently made a 7 and I smoked him 5-0 and the next time we played 5-1 he couldn’t believe it

And Houston has a huge talent pool of so many good players

And now that I think about it it was a 4-5 race so I gave him a free one lololo
 
My Fargo right now is 407/87, but I have been playing tough opponents in tournaments and in a no handicap league. With that being said, I was an APA 6 in a 9 ball league.
 
What do you think an APA SL6 would be accurately rated in the Fargo system?
This has to be the most reposted snap shot on the forum (credit to Dr Dave):
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Honestly I think the 550-599 window a little high for a fringe APA SL6/7 in 8ball.

I know of several that are low 500's that have an APA 7 in that game. IMHO, a SL6 would be <500 for sure
 
How in the world is a 434 Fargo an apa 6 and a 504 Fargo a 7? Lol

Must be an area thing

Our area uses a baseline of 475 (range 450-500) for a 6 and 525 for a 7 (range 500+). I was a 6 in 8-ball and a 5 in 9-ball, so my starter Fargo was a 450. (halfway between the 425 SL-5 base and 475 SL-6 base).

I only have 105 games in the system, which includes 1 tournament where I was drunk of my ass and went 0-6 games, including dumping 3 to a Fargo 350. It was one of those where I went to the hall to tie one on instead of play, but they were begging for people to play in the tournament. Subtracting those, in league play I'm probably not too far off of my starter rating play, with stronger performance in 8-ball than 9-ball still carrying over from APA (USAPL match win rate is 90% in 8-ball and 55% in 10-ball). I'd dig through my FargoRate APP to get the rack win rates by format, but the APP sucks for stuff like that.
 
Thanks for the clarification! I prefer to err on a conservative side. I've never really considered myself nothing but an average pool player on a good day.
Well basing off just break and runs. This is going off of the APA league I play in. Can you run a few racks every session? That would put you in the high 400 range. A 400 will run out rarely and a 450 1-2 times a session if that. 500 would be around 3-4 or so a session on avg. Pretty sure a 500 is something like 5% break and run. A 600 would be double that or 10%. An even easier B&R assessment is do you run out a 2 pack occasionally? I have never witnessed a 450 throw up a 2 pack-ever. They do it, but I’ve never seen it. Unless you consider me at 475 that does it all the time like in regionals the other day……. 😂😂😉

Now that’s just off offense. But it’s a good assessment tool at the level being considered. Not many sub 500’s have a super solid safety game developed yet. It’s really important to make balls at that level. And even when they do have a good safe game most aren’t thinking of the best way to safety to get out on the next approach to the table. They are just focused on hooking their opponent.
 
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