How beneficial is an aiming system?

[8pack]

Just what I thought. Nothing but mouth. You want mathematical proof about CTE/Pro One? Well we now have written proof you're nothing dude. Thanks for making a complete fool of yourself for everyone to see and show you have no backbone whatsoever. Just all mouth.

Back on ignore where you deserve to be. Let me know if you grow a set dude.

Chill out nob,hate to see the way you handle something with real life importance .

It's not really your fault,you just think you know more then what you actually do.
No big deal ...hopefully someday I will fool you into believing my nonsense. Lol
Anyway if you ever want to gamble I'm easily found.

 

[8pack]

How much? I think he can.

Lol ..are you sure you wanna make a wager on this guy??

 

[8pack]

Nobcity knows CTE Anthony.

What is the real issue here? I am trying to understand why it always ends up in a war.

Do people think CTE isn't real?
Does it offend folks that other's have had success with it?
Do people not like to see other's get ahead?

I really am at a loss for why people who have no interest in CTE continue to chime in on the topic.

I don't use TOI and know very little about it. I am not over there on a daily basis trashing CJ and his students.

Does anyone know the root of the problem?

I didn't make any comments towards nob nob...he started with me .
To me it doesn't matter how well you can write about it but more important how well you can play with it. Can nob nob actually play?

 

[shinobi]

I think that's a great idea. Let me know when you complete the project, I'll look forward to viewing the video. I think a $75K multi axis robot combined with about $50K worth of machine vision and probably $30K plus worth of Engineering Support to write the program should do it.

Of course, you could take the time you're wasting here making those kind of silly posts working on learning CTE/Pro One, then you wouldn't need the robot to convince you.

I'm wondering though, what kind of aiming system do you use now? Did you choose it because of a robot hitting shots using it or was it that a Professor of Mathematics at MIT provided you with the mathematical proofs? And the last time you went to Mortons for dinner, did you require that you be allowed to jam your arm up the cow's butt before you ordered your steak?

Methinks you took my post about 2,000,000% more seriously than intended.

For the record -- I wasn't seriously implying or expecting anyone would build a robot for testing CTE.

But thanks for the detailed reply nonetheless

 

[JB Cases]

Chill out nob,hate to see the way you handle something with real life importance .

It's not really your fault,you just think you know more then what you actually do.
No big deal ...hopefully someday I will fool you into believing my nonsense. Lol
Anyway if you ever want to gamble I'm easily found.

What is your limit? Not sure what one man beating another man proves as far as this discussion goes but I am certain I can find you some action with CTE users.

 

[bwally]

Curious ,you have any videos of you playing?

Not sure why he should even bother. Apparently video evidence is not proof to some...

 

[cookie man]

Wouldn't focused, concentrated practice do just the same??

It didn't for me before using pro-one. As a decent player who only plays maybe twice a week i always struggled with guessing where the contact point was, and factoring that into my PSR. It usually ended up with play good this week, not so good next week. Now with Pro-one I have defined things to look, which makes most shots look very similar, creating consistency. It's made the whole PSR very simple and comfortable

 

[8pack]

What is your limit? Not sure what one man beating another man proves as far as this discussion goes but I am certain I can find you some action with CTE users.

Nob nob was running his mouth at me about a wager. ..I'm just calling him.
I'm sure you can ...be honest ,don't see you getting there so you will have to send someone else . Just being honest.

 

[cookie man]

Sorry if you cant handle the truth....but CTE is a gimmick right along with TOI....if you can't handle that, oh well......

Truth hurts......

The worse thing any player can do is to use CTE. To complicated, always need further clarification because it just doesn't make sense.

How do you adjust for playing conditions? What about the pocket that if the OB is hit at certain speed, rolls off line going to the pocket. The roll off to the pocket must be adjusted for. How do adjust for this with CTE? What feedback does it provide in order to make this adjustment?

To adjust for this rolling off line, you have to know where to place the CB on the table to adjust for this.

If all the visuals of CTE do is give you is a line to the pocket, you can not make this adjustment for roll off.

Promoting a product you sell is not the same as promote pool......its promoting a product you sell....it is just pool related.

I have as great a passion for pool, maybe more even so. I know what it takes to play consistent pool, and it ain't any one aiming systems that so many seems to want to keep trying to put on a pedestal. Maybe because I know this truth that I am so against the BS that is stated in relation to CTE.

And don't kid yourself.....I do know my way around the pool table, quite well and as such this is why I say the contact patch principle of Ghost Ball is the best way to aim. Why well......it just works...........

Ever have a bank that does play like the other banks on the table? Requires adjustment.

A aiming system must able to take into account field conditions that require adjustments, not just only consider the pocket. This makes it of limited value.

But hey CTE is so simple a cave man can use it.........

Ever try to just relax and play pool

 

[nobcitypool]

Chill out nob,hate to see the way you handle something with real life importance .

It's not really your fault,you just think you know more then what you actually do.
No big deal ...hopefully someday I will fool you into believing my nonsense. Lol
Anyway if you ever want to gamble I'm easily found.

Real life importance? I take my word very seriously as integrity is everything. Obviously, that idea is something you're not familiar with. A shame. Sorry, day to day, I'm accustomed to dealing with Professionals and successful people who can back up what they say. Sincerely, someone like you is a rather unique experience for me. Seeing your posts and now seeing this, I have a pretty good picture I think.

I'm extremely comfortable with what I know. It's clear you're comfortable with consistently operating and yapping about things you don't know.

Why would I ever consider gambling with you? You've already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt you are not a man of your word.

 

[8pack]

Real life importance? I take my word very seriously as integrity is everything. Obviously, that idea is something you're not familiar with. A shame. Sorry, day to day, I'm accustomed to dealing with Professionals and successful people who can back up what they say. Sincerely, someone like you is a rather unique experience for me. Seeing your posts and now seeing this, I have a pretty good picture I think.

I'm extremely comfortable with what I know. It's clear you're comfortable with consistently operating and yapping about things you don't know.

Why would I ever consider gambling with you? You've already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt you are not a man of your word.

Lol....what are you even talking about..man of my word???

 

[nobcitypool]

Lol....what are you even talking about..man of my word???

Are these not your words?

I'm special ...funny thing about this guy he's an expert with pro1 ,but I bet he can't run a rack of nine ball.

So you insulted me and said you'd bet. When I called you on it, you backpedaled so fast I'm concerned you may have dislocated your knee. Very simple, you said "I bet", I said "Okay, let's bet", you said "blah, blah, blah, waaa, waaa, waaa". Is there some part of that you're struggling to understand? Is English your second or third language?

Once again though, thanks for destroying what minimal credibility you may have had here and playing the fool. Very entertaining on a slow day.

 

[JB Cases]

Nob nob was running his mouth at me about a wager. ..I'm just calling him.
I'm sure you can ...be honest ,don't see you getting there so you will have to send someone else . Just being honest.

Wasn't talking about me. That said since you want to gamble what's a fair game between us? You can pm me.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk

 

[nobcitypool]

8ball, obviously you don't place much value on the words you throw out here. I think you should realize though the CTE/Pro One advocates here have put in hundreds of hours learning the system. Stan had dedicated the last ten years of his life developing the system. Perhaps it doesn't occur to you, but your words are insulting and even hurtful. Just think about that, consider if the shoe were in the other foot.

If the cheap thrills you get from your immature trolling are worth it to you, have a happy dude. Is that your true character?

 

[JB Cases]

Lol ..are you sure you wanna make a wager on this guy??

That he can run a rack of 9 ball? Of course. Bet at much as you can possibly stand.

I am not even sure why you made the remark. That's like iusedtoberich betting that I couldn't beat his stupid four ball ghost exercise.

 

[Se7en6ix]

Efren has stated he uses centers and edges. Not saying he uses CTE but I've seen him pivot on certain shots.

I don't see any of my post citing that efren uses CTE... well thanks for the information anyway.. :smile:
If he uses centers and edges that's his aiming system..

yeah I've noticed him do pivots naturally, he may say that he just feels it, but actually from my point of view, FEEL and NATURALISM comes from experience and practice.

and my only point is that all pool players uses an aiming system, its just that some of them don't realize it, or think hard enough or if they do think... they lack the proper intellect to understand it.


thanks by the way.. :smile:

 

[8pack]

Are these not your words?



So you insulted me and said you'd bet. When I called you on it, you backpedaled so fast I'm concerned you may have dislocated your knee. Very simple, you said "I bet", I said "Okay, let's bet", you said "blah, blah, blah, waaa, waaa, waaa". Is there some part of that you're struggling to understand? Is English your second or third language?

Once again though, thanks for destroying what minimal credibility you may have had here and playing the fool. Very entertaining on a slow day.

I posted in this thread not trying to stir up things ,you come at me with your childish bs .I was only kidding when I made my remark ,hopefully you can run a rack .I could careless though. You are intelligent nob nob.

 

[336Robin]

Efrens Aiming

I don't see any of my post citing that efren uses CTE... well thanks for the information anyway.. :smile:
If he uses centers and edges that's his aiming system..

yeah I've noticed him do pivots naturally, he may say that he just feels it, but actually from my point of view, FEEL and NATURALISM comes from experience and practice.

and my only point is that all pool players uses an aiming system, its just that some of them don't realize it, or think hard enough or if they do think... they lack the proper intellect to understand it.


thanks by the way.. :smile:

I do remember very well something he said in an interview that I think was with Samm Diep....I have looked for it on You Tube and cannot find it anymore anyway the interviewer ask Efren how he aimed the ball and he immediately said
"I just use the edge of the ball to tell me what to do"

You and I may not understand it but he sure does. Its his way and it works for him and that is all that matters. If you dig deeper there is a whole lot in his statement. Whether or not it will mean anything to you or not who knows.

 

[stan shuffett]

I do remember very well something he said in an interview that I think was with Samm Diep....I have looked for it on You Tube and cannot find it anymore anyway the interviewer ask Efren how he aimed the ball and he immediately said
"I just use the edge of the ball to tell me what to do"

You and I may not understand it but he sure does. Its his way and it works for him and that is all that matters. If you dig deeper there is a whole lot in his statement. Whether or not it will mean anything to you or not who knows.

That interview was in a MAG, perhaps Pool and Billiard.

Neslie O'Hare explained that Efren taught her to aim by using a left or right CB edge to aim at OB quarters for cuts and CB center to OB center for straight in type shots. ( That is what I remember.)
Hal Houle said many times that he met with Efren and. 3 others in a CA poolroom in the. 80s and shared CTE with them.
I discussed this with David Bond on last week's ABR PROGRAM and some of it may have been edited out.

Stan Shuffett

 

[SakuJack]

Not at all. I have spent very little learning to fish. So I know enough about fishing to not starve and not enough to build a fleet.

I wouldn't be so sure of that...