How beneficial is an aiming system?

JB Cases said:
Gee, making fun of things you know nothing about makes you look super smart.

I bet you feel awesome when you say it too. You probably high five yourself in the mirror.

It must really burn your ass that some people take the time to figure out methods that are helpful to other people and that those people who try them find great benefit in them.

Must make you feel great to put those people down. Look mom how negative I can be. I am so much smarter than them don't you agree mom? Yes Shawn you are the smartest boy ever.

Except......you aren't. Making fun of people's efforts and methods you know nothing about only makes you look silly.
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Actually, what I really enjoy is making relevant comments regarding a topic, and you bringing my mom into your posts. Oh, and comments about my ass. Hmm.....never mind.
 
JB Cases said:
You keep saying I can't play. Obviously I can play. I have a skill level I am at like everyone else. We all know I can play so you saying I can't doesn't mean anything.

What we don't know is whether you or thaiger can play. You constantly want to talk about how to play and act as if you hold the only valid method of playing yet no one here knows if you can run three balls?

Maybe me and some mates should make some anonymous troll accounts and start trolling and disrupting the snooker boards. Of course that would upset the beehive.

We would probably get banned because I bet the moderators over their are not as tolerant of trolls as ours are.

I only gave you an example of a player who plays great despite bodily animation. They exist. So save your critique. I have many trophies and victories, where are yours?

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Lol. Trophies? The mind boggles...

Actually, you've come up with a good idea. Why don't you try spamming up thesnookerforum with your ideas, you'll enjoy the attention you receive.

During my hiatus from here I opened a thread on there about aiming systems - one person said they'd heard of them IIRC. Yup ONE.

Why do you think that would be then?
 
JB Cases said:
I don't have a system Anthony. Nothing is my system. Maybe you don't agree with CTE but that is what Gerry says he uses. So when you claim CTE users don't know what they are doing you include him in that statement.

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Gerry is really the only one that doesn't really let all this bickering bother him.If more of you were like him, there would be less arguing. Still, I haven't called anyone a liar.:smile:




You don't have a system?? would it matter?
Center pocket system?? Good luck!
 
JB Cases said:
Here you go SakuJak and Thaiger, this is what you call the best cueists in the world???

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/45529327

The whole channel is full of bangers who gamble. Kudos to them for stepping up! Shame on you for acting like everyone in the UK are world beaters.

Lots of these players could benefit greatly from aiming systems AND lessons in other aspects of playing pool.

http://moneymatchtv.com/

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/moneymatchtv

The more I think about this the more I want to buy a couple of these english 8 ball tables and have some of the players here, non-pros, practice up on them and send them over for a couple months of Money Match TV. This looks like pretty easy money to me the way some of these guys play.

Of course I know that there are VERY GOOD runout players in the UK at this game but most of these guys are not them.
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LOL!!

All skill levels are catered for on MMTV. What you link proves nothing, but I'll tell you this - players of the ability of those you linked were smashing SVB to pieces when he was in England recently, and you wouldn't win a rack against them.

The top players make this game look ABSURDLY easy, when i can assure you it is anything but.

There is not a chance any current American player can ever be competitive at E8B. Simply put, you are not a good enough player to understand the reasons why. The understanding gap is too large to bridge.
 
TheThaiger said:
Aren't you a beginner? Didn't you bark at 8 Pack and get bit? :D

I asked Barton to highlight specific posts he had concerns with and ask you to do the same. Please provide posts to back up your statement; otherwise, you know, confirmation bias...much!
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8 pack barked at Nobcitypool and didn't want to follow through.

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TheThaiger said:
What do you mean, other than stating (correctly) poor cuing is the American disease and aiming is a big, fat none issue?

I'd say that is pretty damn worthwhile, wouldn't you?
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If aiming is a non issue, why does it have its own sub forum that you just can't stay away from.
 
TheThaiger said:
LOL!!

All skill levels are catered for on MMTV. What you link proves nothing, but I'll tell you this - players of the ability of those you linked were smashing SVB to pieces when he was in England recently, and you wouldn't win a rack against them.

The top players make this game look ABSURDLY easy, when i can assure you it is anything but.

There is not a chance any current American player can ever be competitive at E8B. Simply put, you are not a good enough player to understand the reasons why. The understanding gap is too large to bridge.
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Got any video of this smashing? No?

How much will you bet?

If you had it to bet would you bet 1,000,000 that svb could not be competitive at English 8 Ball?

You're daft if you think Shane couldn't pick up that game easily if he desired to. There is nothing about it that is in the least complicated.

But what would you know anyway, you don't even play pool.



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sfleinen said:
Speed pool to me, is CTE -- [C]ontemplative [T]elevision [E]ntertainment.

:p
-Sean <-- sometimes gets into a speed pool mode when in a 14.1 zone
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Speed pool as it is at the moment is dire, but an element of speed is ESSENTIAL to ensure the long term survival of the game. 10 second stop clocks all round, please, two extensions per set.

Speed (of thought) separates the wheat from the chaff.
 
TheThaiger said:
Oh yeah, but to complete the follow through metaphor, I remember Nobby crapping his pants when he realised how good 8 Pack was.
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Not at all. The bet was that nobcity can't run a rack and anthony backed down from that. No one barked at tony to play.



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like watching grass grow or water freeze.

TheThaiger said:
Speed pool as it is at the moment is dire, but an element of speed is ESSENTIAL to ensure the long term survival of the game. 10 second stop clocks all round, please, two extensions per set.

Speed (of thought) separates the wheat from the chaff.
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You are certainly correct concerning this statement!!!

I would play anyone with a 10 second shot clock.....Earl is the only one that can play at that rate and still maintain a "championship level".

Playing pool slowly is like watching grass grow or water freeze....borrrrrring :boring2:
 
JB Cases said:
Got any video of this smashing? No?

How much will you bet?

If you had it to bet would you bet 1,000,000 that svb could not be competitive at English 8 Ball?

You're daft if you think Shane couldn't pick up that game easily if he desired to. There is nothing about it that is in the least complicated.

But what would you know anyway, you don't even play pool.



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Yes, I'd bet a million - and I don't gamble. SVB put the videos on FB, and my mates were there, watching.

Someone linked his C8B match with Potts a few days ago - you should watch it for why he'll never be competitive at any sport that does not rely on a big break and/or massive pockets. You can physically see him fail at one stage, so overwhelmed he was by the different approach needed. He is simply not adaptable to changing conditions. He actually missed the pocket on one of the longer straight shots.
 
CJ Wiley said:
You are certainly correct concerning this statement!!!

I would play anyone with a 10 second shot clock.....Earl is the only one that can play at that rate and still maintain a "championship level".

Playing pool slowly is like watching grass grow or water freeze....borrrrrring :boring2:
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It is the reason the game is dead. Those that gorge on such dullness should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
 
TheThaiger said:
Yes, I'd bet a million - and I don't gamble. SVB put the videos on FB, and my mates were there, watching.

Someone linked his C8B match with Potts a few days ago - you should watch it for why he'll never be competitive at any sport that does not rely on a big break and/or massive pockets. You can physically see him fail at one stage, so overwhelmed he was by the different approach needed. He is simply not adaptable to changing conditions. He actually missed the pocket on one of the longer straight shots.
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So he played an unfamiliar game on unfamiliar equipment and that condemns him to eternal failure?

How about asking Potts how he thinks he will fare against Shane playing one pocket?

I am sure that Shane has plenty of people willing to bet twice as much as Potts earned with Chinese 8 Ball if he wants to come and play some one pocket on tight pocket tables.

Shane ran 7 racks of ten ball on 4" pockets. You are foolish if you think he is not accurate.

So what if he missed some shots playing Chinese 8 ball? You would be stupid to think he couldn't master it if hr wanted to. But why should he? There is one event per year filled with players who specialize in that game. Shane is busy dominating all the games played where he lives with the zero need to spend time on another game.

However if you want to get your million up Shane has his lined up. You can give each player one year to learn each other's games. Then he and Potts can play a session of Chinese 8 ball and a session of One Pocket and see what happens.



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JB Cases said:
...in golf it seems as ifi APEX Aiming is akin to Ghost Ball in that it's the old way to aim. And the new way is Aim Point aiming which appears to be much more accurate. ...
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John, this is a bad comparison because aiming straight at the apex (as described in the videos) is not a correct method, whereas ghost ball is a correct method (if you can do it). Aiming at the apex in golf would be more like aiming the center of the CB straight at the intended contact point on the OB (i.e., an incorrect aiming method).
 
AtLarge said:
John, this is a bad comparison because aiming straight at the apex (as described in the videos) is not a correct method, whereas ghost ball is a correct method (if you can do it). Aiming at the apex in golf would be more like aiming the center of the CB straight at the intended contact point on the OB (i.e., an incorrect aiming method).
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Fair enough. The overriding point is that there are methods in golf which are not effective yet popular while there are newer methods which appear to be much note accurate but are not as popular.



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