How can you tell if a person is sand bagging in a match?

Lock N Load said:
You are playing small money matches and wonder if the person you are playing is baiting you in for higher stakes!! How can you tell if this is happening?
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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I like to watch the final delivery of the cue to the cue-ball....
...the cuing action between the bridge hand and the cue-ball will
tell you a lot about who you're messing with.

...and the light at the end of the tunnel....
The better you get, the less you can be fooled.

...so more work on your game will make your game-making better
 
Lock N Load said:
You are playing small money matches and wonder if the person you are playing is baiting you in for higher stakes!! How can you tell if this is happening?
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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Watch when he end his shot and get up, if he knows he is going to miss on purpose he might not attempt to go to next shot, but if he knows he is going to make it he will immediately go to next shot, watch this behavior and if there is a difference he is hustling you.
 
Lock N Load said:
You are playing small money matches and wonder if the person you are playing is baiting you in for higher stakes!! How can you tell if this is happening?
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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I don't bother trying to tell if it is or not.

My own "rules":
1. I decide before I start play the most money I am willing to lose before I walk away - and stick to it.
2. I say up front I won't play for more than x amount per game / race / whatever tonight - and stick to it, win or lose.
3. I play my best game from the opening break.
4. I say no thanks to any offer, at any time, to win or lose money faster.

If I stick to 1-4, I can get beat, I can lose money, but I can't be hustled. If a better player will play me for small stakes until I am drained for the night, I feel like I got my money's worth.

One thing that bothers me about this set-up is that very good players will only show enough game to beat me, not their best game - because other potential sources of income are watching, I suppose. If I want to see a better game from them, I have to play better.

I played a stranger last night who understood immediately I wasn't a target, and he showed me one shot - right after the first 9-ball break. He called 9 in the side, a long kick into a three-ball combo that broke the 9 quietly out of a cluster and sent it rolling toward the pocket. He just missed it, glanced at me with a twinkle in his eye and told me quietly I had made a good choice on our bet. After that, he dried right up and just kept missing balls and scanning the room.

One good result is after a couple of tries, the people who only play to get deep into my wallet leave me alone.
 
PT, you are now Double Hemlock!! Per your request....

pt109 said:
I like to watch the final delivery of the cue to the cue-ball....
...the cuing action between the bridge hand and the cue-ball will
tell you a lot about who you're messing with.

...and the light at the end of the tunnel....
The better you get, the less you can be fooled.

...so more work on your game will make your game-making better
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I answered you in your response when you asked me about being a Lock! Thanks for your input. Mr. Double HemLock!!!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Where do I sign up for the Lock Society?
Can I be Loch Ness? Seeing how I do have a bit of Scottish in me.
 
Lock N Load said:
I answered you in your response when you asked me about being a Lock! Thanks for your input. Mr. Double HemLock!!!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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Lock, you're the best!
I will now re-double my efforts to make a good game for myself.

regards
double hemLock..<...who will take the orange crush and a hand span
from anybody at Buffalo's...uh..can anybody cash a check?:cool:
 
The money

The way to tell is simply two words:

THE MONEY

1. Did you leave with any? If so, you were not hustled.

2. Did he leave with your money? Yes, then 1 of 4 things happened.
a. You played worse than you normally do.
b. You think you play better than you really do.
c. You make bad games often. If so, please introduce yourself to me.
d. He hustled you.
 
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iba7467 said:
The way to tell is simply two words:

THE MONEY

1. Did you leave with any? If so, you were not hustled.

2. Did he leave with your money? Yes, then 1 of 4 things happened.
a. You played worse than you normally do.
b. You think you play better than you really do.
c. You make bad games often. If so, please introduce yourself to me.
d. He hustled you.
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It's not always the money.
Years ago, when I gambled a lot, I used to give a guy a way too much weight. My friends told me I was crazy. But he was a wealthy man and
a bit of a nit.
So if he won the first game, the best I could do was get even.
If he got 2 games up, he would quit.
So, it was impossible for me to 'go-off'.
But if I was having a magic day, he would go-off like a rocket.

so, I only won about 20% of the time...but I'm up thousands.
( okay, maybe it IS about the money)
 
Hey Double HemLock, you can get the orange crush from me at Buffalo's...

pt109 said:
Lock, you're the best!
I will now re-double my efforts to make a good game for myself.

regards
double hemLock..<...who will take the orange crush and a hand span
from anybody at Buffalo's...uh..can anybody cash a check?:cool:
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Billiards, the Worlds Pool Hall. No checks though has to be cash! Just let me know when you want it!! No hand span either. Thanks Double HemLock.
Do you want Buffalo's Billiards phone number?
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Lock N Load said:
Billiards, the Worlds Pool Hall. No checks though has to be cash! Just let me know when you want it!! No hand span either. Thanks Double HemLock.
Do you want Buffalo's Billiards phone number?
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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No checks?:angry:

Uh...maybe you could lend me a few bucks till payday.....
...by the way, when do you get paid?
..I might need a few more dollars then.:)
 
Hmmmmm, a loan huh?

pt109 said:
No checks?:angry:

Uh...maybe you could lend me a few bucks till payday.....
...by the way, when do you get paid?
..I might need a few more dollars then.:)
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Payday is Friday. Evey week. Small pay check though. Make a loan before
you come to play! Mortal Lock is the MGR at Buffalo's Billiards the Worlds Pool Hall! Little Lock is one of the bartenders, his name is Andy. You might want to ask him about the Orange Crush! Heavy Lock and Lock nuts work there also!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
iba, such good input!

iba7467 said:
The way to tell is simply two words:

THE MONEY

1. Did you leave with any? If so, you were not hustled.

2. Did he leave with your money? Yes, then 1 of 4 things happened.
a. You played worse than you normally do.
b. You think you play better than you really do.
c. You make bad games often. If so, please introduce yourself to me.
d. He hustled you.
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Thank you very much!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
15 years or so ago there were a couple of short stops that hung around the hall that had a ton of gamble in them. They were always very warry of someone coming in wanting to play, sight unseen. These guys had a lot of gamble in them, and would bet big if they thought they had a 50% chance to win. They would always ask the guy where he was from, and his name. Once guy told them, they would ask to see the guys drivers license. There were many times the person would not show them their license, or when they did, were not who they claimed to be. It was a hoot to hang around with these guys. The internet has changed a lot of this now.
 
I'm trying to figure out why anyone would invest the time it takes to sandbag and hustle someone for cheap money in a pool room where everyone is named lock, locksmith, Mortal Lock, Ultimate lock.
 
Lil'l Lock, Slim Lock, Reload, Heavy Lock, Lock N Load JR,

book collector said:
I'm trying to figure out why anyone would invest the time it takes to sandbag and hustle someone for cheap money in a pool room where everyone is named lock, locksmith, Mortal Lock, Ultimate lock.
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Lock Monster, Dr. Lock, Lock Up, Pick Lock, Lock Tight, And that is just a few. Master Lock and Power Lock are in Atlanta, GA. MattLock is also! Now do I need to go on? Last week at Buffalo's Billiards, the Worlds Pool Hall there were several matches over $20,000. A few more for $10,000. Now is that cheap? I do not think so! Eddie Brown just finish playing for $2,000 first to 10 games ahead! When Dippy Dave came down here he played for $5,000 a game with different players! Buddy Hall was down here and Nick V. Mike Black, Joey Gray, the list could go on and on! PT109 is now Double HemLock. And their are even more Locks. All over too!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Lock N Load said:
You are playing small money matches and wonder if the person you are playing is baiting you in for higher stakes!! How can you tell if this is happening?
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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I guess this is why I said small money
Sounds like a fun place , maybe some time I will be able to visit.
 
I accidentally hustled a road hustler...My buddy and I were playing for beers, and I was playing left-handed for fun. I win the game and he comes back with a new beer and the $100 he had owed me for a week. Road guy challenges me, offers the 7-out. I balk at this since I play about B+ on a good day. My friend says he will back me for $100 a game, but only if the "hustler" gives up the break too. Hustler says I can have the "orange crush" if I play off-handed, which he thinks is right-handed since he only saw me play lefty. Well, I killed him for $1200 in less than an hour. SWEET!
 
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