How do you Bank This?

GStrong said:
... It seems like I am constantly coming up against this bank and would like your opinions on how to make it. I generally cut it way to thin or end up with a double kiss.
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How far the object ball is off the cushion is critical. To give yourself the best chance of avoiding the double kiss, use left english and enough draw that it is a stun shot (no draw or follow at arrival at the object ball). Also, the harder you hit it, the more the object ball will sink into the cushion, giving the cue ball more chance to get out of the way.

As for hitting it too thin, there's no help for that but to hit it fuller.
 
I agree. With that angle you got to compress the rail by hitting it hard...
 
GStrong said:
Hi there... I am fairly new to this forum. It seems like I am constantly coming up against this bank and would like your opinions on how to make it. I generally cut it way to thin or end up with a double kiss. Any help is appreciated... Thanks

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Yes, and also the harder you hit it the more you lessen the angle, This means a slightly thinner cut giving you a greater chance of making it without cue ball interference.
 
Thanks...

So... I am thinking, maybe a 5/6 or 3/4 ball hit hard with draw?

Or, maybe a full ball hit with a tip of low right english, hit firm?

I am at work now, just thinking about some of my trouble spots and this shot just seemed to come up about 3 times yesterday when I was playing.

Or... is there an easier safety on this shot? last ball on the table?

Thanks again.
 
High left english. Or low. I like high on this shot as it scratches the cue ball less often. As far as how much ball to hit?........Set it up, practice, it depends on the exact angle, speed struck, humidity, table you're on, distance the OB is from the cushion, etc... Keep tryin', you'll get it.

~DC
 
GStrong said:
I am at work now, just thinking about some of my trouble spots and this shot just seemed to come up about 3 times yesterday when I was playing.
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Did you leave yourself this shot, or did your opponent leave it? Because if you repeatedly left yourself this shot, maybe your main focus should be working on your position play. I'm not trying to be a smarta$$, just honestly asking. :)
 
I am not trying to be a smartass either, but

JLW said:
Did you leave yourself this shot, or did your opponent leave it? Because if you repeatedly left yourself this shot, maybe your main focus should be working on your position play. I'm not trying to be a smarta$$, just honestly asking. :)
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Just where would you play position if its the last ball on the table? It looks to me like the cue ball is perfect considering where the object ball is. I love that shot and make it most of the time, expecially since I am left handed. Maybe you want the cue ball another inch over. I guess I am thinking one pocket play. Otherwise I would kick it in.
 
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Its kinda easy to take that shot,if it is not on the rail,than i suggest u to use right english,and make a nice cut into that corner hole.

But if the object ball was on the rail,than this is what im going to do if i were u :

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So now,ur opponent will really have to think hard on how to shoot the ball,which looks like this :

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Thank You
 
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647km2 said:
Its kinda easy to take that shot,if it is not on the rail,than i suggest u to use right english,and make a nice cut into that corner hole.

But if the object ball was on the rail,than this is what im going to do if i were u :

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So now,ur opponent will really have to think hard on how to shoot the ball,which looks like this :

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Thank You
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He is not asking "how'" to make it or how to play safe. He is asking how to bank it. Also your safe shot is not possible from that angle. And if it was I would make an easy bank back to right corner. Easy shot in one pocket. And if you miss easy safety.
 
nfty9er said:
He is not asking "how'" to make it or how to play safe. He is asking how to bank it. Also your safe shot is not possible from that angle. And if it was I would make an easy bank back to right corner. Easy shot in one pocket. And if you miss easy safety.
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I had tried that shot,and by miracle the safety work,im only sharing it here.

And yes,he's asking "how" to bank it,but i will tell him how to if it was a trickshot game or if he's playing a bank game with his friend.But the thing is,he did not mentioned to us that he was in a bank game,so why not i gave him an easier way to shoot that ball.Maybe he want to try it out or something.

Thank You
 
Wake up son

647km2 said:
I had tried that shot,and by miracle the safety work,im only sharing it here.

And yes,he's asking "how" to bank it,but i will tell him how to if it was a trickshot game or if he's playing a bank game with his friend.But the thing is,he did not mentioned to us that he was in a bank game,so why not i gave him an easier way to shoot that ball.Maybe he want to try it out or something.

Thank You
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First of all that safe would be a miracle. It is impossible. To leave the cue ball where you have it would take a hard stroke with low right english. That would make it impossible to stop the object ball where you have it.
You cannot cut that ball in it is too close to the rail. He is obviously asking because he is playing a game that he needs to bank it.
Your way is not easier. And like I said your safe is an easy shot for a banker.
Please do not try to mislead someone who is sincerely trying to learn a shot.
I can see you need many more years at the game.
No offense but you know not what you are talking about.
 
nfty9er said:
Just where would you play position if its the last ball on the table? It looks to me like the cue ball is perfect considering where the object ball is. I love that shot and make it most of the time, expecially since I am left handed. Maybe you want the cue ball another inch over. I guess I am thinking one pocket play. Otherwise I would kick it in.
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Well, as far as I can tell, he hasn't stated what game he is playing. All he said was that he had this same shot 3 times in one day. I was assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that it was something besides bank or one pocket. My immediate thought was 8 ball or 9 ball. Again, maybe I was wrong. But if he is leaving himself this shot, and it is indeed a game of 8 ball or 9 ball, it would seem to me that his focus should not be on how to bank this shot but on his position play, so that he can avoid leaving himself this shot in the future. Sure this shot will still come up occassionally (and all of the feedback sounds right on), but not with the same frequency. Now that I stop to think about it, it could very likely be bank. Am I missing something? Is it One Pocket? Straight Pool? Are you leaving this shot, or is your opponent? :confused:
 
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GStrong said:
Hi there... I am fairly new to this forum. It seems like I am constantly coming up against this bank and would like your opinions on how to make it. I generally cut it way to thin or end up with a double kiss. Any help is appreciated... Thanks

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I would kick to make that shot, bank to play safe. if you have to bank it, low left and hard. The tighter the angle, the lower, lefter, and harder. :cool:
 
nfty9er said:
First of all that safe would be a miracle. It is impossible. To leave the cue ball where you have it would take a hard stroke with low right english. That would make it impossible to stop the object ball where you have it.
You cannot cut that ball in it is too close to the rail. He is obviously asking because he is playing a game that he needs to bank it.
Your way is not easier. And like I said your safe is an easy shot for a banker.
Please do not try to mislead someone who is sincerely trying to learn a shot.
I can see you need many more years at the game.
No offense but you know not what you are talking about.
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Yup maybe ur right JLW,i need a few more years at the game :(

I dont really have much time to play at this age,school come first.Dont really have much time to play when it comes to examination.

Regards...
 
It depends on conditions and how far the o/b is off the rail. I'd be hitting it with low inside with only a hint of draw once hit at med speed. There are many similar shots, such as this one where the o/b is a balls width off the rail. Speed is definately a factor.

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It's A Hanger

If a Chicago player left this shot playing onepocket, and his opponent wouln't bank at it, but instead played safe, the Chicago player would giggle with glee. The shot is a hanger. I could make it 8 out of 10 and I am 65yrs old. The diagram shows the object ball to be 1/2 to 3/4 ball space off the rail. Those are favorable conditions. Forget about the kiss and hit the OB 1/2 full. You cant kiss if you hit it 1/2 full. That's the aim. The next two factors are speed, and where to strike the Qball. The speed is MEDIUM, because you are going to use a dead-center Qball hit. MEDIUM SPEED, with a center Qball hit, will give you maximum COLLISION-INDUCED REVERSE THROW, which will serve to shorten the bank enough to make it easily. Hitting it easy speed will burn up the Col.Ind.Rev.Throw and the ball will run long. Hitting it hard will give you the same negative result because, SPEED KILLS ACTION, and you will not be able to transfer enough of the necessary rev. throw.
Bank on, brother! It's all in my book.
the Beard
 
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I've got it now...

Thanks for all the replies...

Now that I am home from work (fire dept), I got on the table to work it out.

Freddy... I have your book and it is awesome, has helped my banks by leaps and bounds and I am still learning from it, but when I hit the ob half full with medium speed it always goes right into the long rail. That was my initial inclination every time it came up, but it was always too thin for some reason. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

But after working with it for a few minutes, I think I have it. 3/4 ball, high inside english, firm hit.

And, FWIW, I was playing 9ball and 1hole, and was usually left this shot by the guy I was playing.

Thanks again fellas!!! I have enjoyed reading your posts for several months now!!
 
647km2 said:
Yup maybe ur right JLW,i need a few more years at the game :(

I dont really have much time to play at this age,school come first.Dont really have much time to play when it comes to examination.

Regards...
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I have no problem with you. I think you mean nfty9er. :D
 
GStrong said:
And, FWIW, I was playing 9ball and 1hole, and was usually left this shot by the guy I was playing.
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Sorry man. I made the mistake of assuming because you are a newer poster asking for advice that you must be a novice and playing 8 or 9 ball. :o Welcome to the forum. :)
 
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